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Asura.Disclai said: » AegParm said: » Are any of the area bosses soloable besides Ghatjot? As far as I'm aware, only A & E have been solo'd. Don't see how the others could be feasibly solo'd. G should be soloable assuming SCH can land gravity I think. It won't do 30k move until it gets close to you and it's not like it is good as closing distance even without gravity, because it keeps stopping to attack from distance. AegParm said: » Is E the same strat as A? Here's a couple of streams where Lute solo'd it on RDM or SCH: SCH: YouTube Video Placeholder RDM: YouTube Video Placeholder Notably, this was with Cornelia. Probably a little bit harder without her since you won't be able to haste cap with an unkillable trust.
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Awesome, thank you!!
My group is having trouble with the D/H boss using the mage strat. We understand the mechanics of the switching elements and changing the skillchains and magic burst accordingly, however we seem to do much less damage to it compared to the other 6 bosses. Same old comp of geo sch sch blm cor run. Blm is using burn and geo is using indi int for basement versions, haven't been using impact because I was under the assumption it resisted it greatly.
Any tips for the D/H boss that we may be forgetting? I'm assuming all 4 mages should be magic bursting even with the nuke wall as long as blm goes first? Ragnarok.Bepe said: » My group is having trouble with the D/H boss using the mage strat. We understand the mechanics of the switching elements and changing the skillchains and magic burst accordingly, however we seem to do much less damage to it compared to the other 6 bosses. Same old comp of geo sch sch blm cor run. Blm is using burn and geo is using indi int for basement versions, haven't been using impact because I was under the assumption it resisted it greatly. Any tips for the D/H boss that we may be forgetting? I'm assuming all 4 mages should be magic bursting even with the nuke wall as long as blm goes first? We use monks roll to prevent him from switching much. Sch that is making sc has to be on point, starting next sc right when the first is ending. A lot of sch I see try to get a third burst in and delays whole team by 5-10 seconds
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anybody have any tips for meleeing b/f? The setup we normally have is tank sam brd cor/rdm geo whm
The discussion page on the wiki has this- wondering how much this strategy relies on MS/soul enslavement Quote: Melee Strat We have been actively working on this and seem to have found a solid solution: Keep attack buffs low so he can't steal them. Cancel Protect. Stack as many non-attack buffs as possible. He can start with Wind Hand or swap to it so the strategy stays the same. Hybrid MEVA,DT sets for everyone in range. RUN WAR DRK BRD COR WHM Run = Run things, Reso and Dimi usage. Battuta really helps as he steals buffs, use it before RD/WC. War = Armor Break open, swapped to GS for Reso, Ground Strike, MS/BR Drk = Apocalypse, use SE, use the good scythe ws's except Insurgency cuz Fusion Cor = Chaos, Sam, SB spam, Wildcard after everyone uses SPs, Light shot dia. Brd/Whm = HM, Victory March, Madrigal x2, wind carol, no debuffs to Gartell in case thunder hands came out Whm = Baraera, Barsilencera, Dia II Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: » Ragnarok.Bepe said: » My group is having trouble with the D/H boss using the mage strat. We understand the mechanics of the switching elements and changing the skillchains and magic burst accordingly, however we seem to do much less damage to it compared to the other 6 bosses. Same old comp of geo sch sch blm cor run. Blm is using burn and geo is using indi int for basement versions, haven't been using impact because I was under the assumption it resisted it greatly. Any tips for the D/H boss that we may be forgetting? I'm assuming all 4 mages should be magic bursting even with the nuke wall as long as blm goes first? We use monks roll to prevent him from switching much. Sch that is making sc has to be on point, starting next sc right when the first is ending. A lot of sch I see try to get a third burst in and delays whole team by 5-10 seconds Monks + Warlocks? or Wizards? Asura.Dexprozius said: » Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: » Ragnarok.Bepe said: » My group is having trouble with the D/H boss using the mage strat. We understand the mechanics of the switching elements and changing the skillchains and magic burst accordingly, however we seem to do much less damage to it compared to the other 6 bosses. Same old comp of geo sch sch blm cor run. Blm is using burn and geo is using indi int for basement versions, haven't been using impact because I was under the assumption it resisted it greatly. Any tips for the D/H boss that we may be forgetting? I'm assuming all 4 mages should be magic bursting even with the nuke wall as long as blm goes first? We use monks roll to prevent him from switching much. Sch that is making sc has to be on point, starting next sc right when the first is ending. A lot of sch I see try to get a third burst in and delays whole team by 5-10 seconds Monks + Warlocks? or Wizards? Asura.Haxetc said: » G-Frailty/I-Haste for D G-Frailty/I-INT For a sec I thought you are talking about some melee burn with mages lol(Black Halos!), then I realized you probably confused Malaice and Frailty.
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Asura.Fondue said: » anybody have any tips for meleeing b/f? The setup we normally have is tank sam brd cor/rdm geo whm The discussion page on the wiki has this- wondering how much this strategy relies on MS/soul enslavement Quote: Melee Strat We have been actively working on this and seem to have found a solid solution: Keep attack buffs low so he can't steal them. Cancel Protect. Stack as many non-attack buffs as possible. He can start with Wind Hand or swap to it so the strategy stays the same. Hybrid MEVA,DT sets for everyone in range. RUN WAR DRK BRD COR WHM Run = Run things, Reso and Dimi usage. Battuta really helps as he steals buffs, use it before RD/WC. War = Armor Break open, swapped to GS for Reso, Ground Strike, MS/BR Drk = Apocalypse, use SE, use the good scythe ws's except Insurgency cuz Fusion Cor = Chaos, Sam, SB spam, Wildcard after everyone uses SPs, Light shot dia. Brd/Whm = HM, Victory March, Madrigal x2, wind carol, no debuffs to Gartell in case thunder hands came out Whm = Baraera, Barsilencera, Dia II That was our group doing F with Melee. Its just not reliable, we had some clean wins and some grind it out wins but ultimately its not worth the effort. Figuring out what causes Ixion to drop the chest will be the key to expanding melee comps. Taint said: » Figuring out what causes Ixion to drop the chest will be the key to expanding melee comps. inb4 fully completed Prime Weapons will break the horn and cause the chest to drop.
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Asura.Dexprozius said: » Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: » Ragnarok.Bepe said: » My group is having trouble with the D/H boss using the mage strat. We understand the mechanics of the switching elements and changing the skillchains and magic burst accordingly, however we seem to do much less damage to it compared to the other 6 bosses. Same old comp of geo sch sch blm cor run. Blm is using burn and geo is using indi int for basement versions, haven't been using impact because I was under the assumption it resisted it greatly. Any tips for the D/H boss that we may be forgetting? I'm assuming all 4 mages should be magic bursting even with the nuke wall as long as blm goes first? We use monks roll to prevent him from switching much. Sch that is making sc has to be on point, starting next sc right when the first is ending. A lot of sch I see try to get a third burst in and delays whole team by 5-10 seconds Monks + Warlocks? or Wizards? Our group never uses Warlocks, DH is Monks + Wizards, everything else is Sam + Wizards. Taint said: » Figuring out what causes Ixion to drop the chest will be the key to expanding melee comps. I think this will require some greater effort of entire community and probably some excel to write down everything that was checked as invalid and new ideas. For example at this point I have no idea if someone tried killing elemental in order (on of each). Another idea would be if E is damage from back and G from front, maybe if H is kill fomors around then F is kill everything beside elemental around (possibly not everything, but only in area similar to what is needed for blue chest in E). Another idea would be kill elementals opposite to those where Ixion spawns.
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Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: » Asura.Dexprozius said: » Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: » Ragnarok.Bepe said: » My group is having trouble with the D/H boss using the mage strat. We understand the mechanics of the switching elements and changing the skillchains and magic burst accordingly, however we seem to do much less damage to it compared to the other 6 bosses. Same old comp of geo sch sch blm cor run. Blm is using burn and geo is using indi int for basement versions, haven't been using impact because I was under the assumption it resisted it greatly. Any tips for the D/H boss that we may be forgetting? I'm assuming all 4 mages should be magic bursting even with the nuke wall as long as blm goes first? We use monks roll to prevent him from switching much. Sch that is making sc has to be on point, starting next sc right when the first is ending. A lot of sch I see try to get a third burst in and delays whole team by 5-10 seconds Monks + Warlocks? or Wizards? Our group never uses Warlocks, DH is Monks + Wizards, everything else is Sam + Wizards. Valefor.Philemon said: » Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: » Asura.Dexprozius said: » Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: » Ragnarok.Bepe said: » My group is having trouble with the D/H boss using the mage strat. We understand the mechanics of the switching elements and changing the skillchains and magic burst accordingly, however we seem to do much less damage to it compared to the other 6 bosses. Same old comp of geo sch sch blm cor run. Blm is using burn and geo is using indi int for basement versions, haven't been using impact because I was under the assumption it resisted it greatly. Any tips for the D/H boss that we may be forgetting? I'm assuming all 4 mages should be magic bursting even with the nuke wall as long as blm goes first? We use monks roll to prevent him from switching much. Sch that is making sc has to be on point, starting next sc right when the first is ending. A lot of sch I see try to get a third burst in and delays whole team by 5-10 seconds Monks + Warlocks? or Wizards? Our group never uses Warlocks, DH is Monks + Wizards, everything else is Sam + Wizards. The weakness will be the corresponding element to the TP move they use. Someone actually took the time to write this all down. https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Aita Valefor.Philemon said: » Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: » Asura.Dexprozius said: » Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: » Ragnarok.Bepe said: » My group is having trouble with the D/H boss using the mage strat. We understand the mechanics of the switching elements and changing the skillchains and magic burst accordingly, however we seem to do much less damage to it compared to the other 6 bosses. Same old comp of geo sch sch blm cor run. Blm is using burn and geo is using indi int for basement versions, haven't been using impact because I was under the assumption it resisted it greatly. Any tips for the D/H boss that we may be forgetting? I'm assuming all 4 mages should be magic bursting even with the nuke wall as long as blm goes first? We use monks roll to prevent him from switching much. Sch that is making sc has to be on point, starting next sc right when the first is ending. A lot of sch I see try to get a third burst in and delays whole team by 5-10 seconds Monks + Warlocks? or Wizards? Our group never uses Warlocks, DH is Monks + Wizards, everything else is Sam + Wizards. Yeah, our blm calls out and procs blue right after the tp move goes off. We rarely see vivisection at all, when we do, it’s because something’s gone wrong. We get maybe one additional element change right before it dies. Blm just procs it immediately. Sorry I'm not being clear, the issue is getting Aita to use the initial TP move so we can start SCing as soon as possible. Once it uses the TP move we're fine with the proc and immediate SCs.
Mainly I'm wondering if there's a trick to get it to do its first TP move faster and also how to use monk's roll effectively in this fight. Valefor.Philemon said: » Sorry I'm not being clear, the issue is getting Aita to use the initial TP move so we can start SCing as soon as possible. Once it uses the TP move we're fine with the proc and immediate SCs. Mainly I'm wondering if there's a trick to get it to do its first TP move faster and also how to use monk's roll effectively in this fight.
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Taint said: » That was our group doing F with Melee. Its just not reliable, we had some clean wins and some grind it out wins but ultimately its not worth the effort. Figuring out what causes Ixion to drop the chest will be the key to expanding melee comps. Asura.Fondue said: » Taint said: » That was our group doing F with Melee. Its just not reliable, we had some clean wins and some grind it out wins but ultimately its not worth the effort. Figuring out what causes Ixion to drop the chest will be the key to expanding melee comps. Top floor lessor NMs. Flans if Thingy is in the room of 12. Naaks in E and Naaks at F. Asura.Fondue said: » anybody have any tips for meleeing b/f? The setup we normally have is tank sam brd cor/rdm geo whm The discussion page on the wiki has this- wondering how much this strategy relies on MS/soul enslavement Quote: Melee Strat We have been actively working on this and seem to have found a solid solution: Keep attack buffs low so he can't steal them. Cancel Protect. Stack as many non-attack buffs as possible. He can start with Wind Hand or swap to it so the strategy stays the same. Hybrid MEVA,DT sets for everyone in range. RUN WAR DRK BRD COR WHM Run = Run things, Reso and Dimi usage. Battuta really helps as he steals buffs, use it before RD/WC. War = Armor Break open, swapped to GS for Reso, Ground Strike, MS/BR Drk = Apocalypse, use SE, use the good scythe ws's except Insurgency cuz Fusion Cor = Chaos, Sam, SB spam, Wildcard after everyone uses SPs, Light shot dia. Brd/Whm = HM, Victory March, Madrigal x2, wind carol, no debuffs to Gartell in case thunder hands came out Whm = Baraera, Barsilencera, Dia II I've gone in and done geo brd whm sam cor.. i forget the 6th offhand. anyway, we just buff the sam and let him 4 step it down til it's dead. Asura.Disclai said: » AegParm said: » Is E the same strat as A? RDM: YouTube Video Placeholder Notably, this was with Cornelia. Probably a little bit harder without her since you won't be able to haste cap with an unkillable trust. How is he dealing with E boss poison here? Looks like he's using a venom pot to overwrite the status then erase it with a panacea? Is that...legal? AegParm said: » Asura.Disclai said: » AegParm said: » Is E the same strat as A? RDM: YouTube Video Placeholder Notably, this was with Cornelia. Probably a little bit harder without her since you won't be able to haste cap with an unkillable trust. How is he dealing with E boss poison here? Looks like he's using a venom pot to overwrite the status then erase it with a panacea? Is that...legal? KujahFoxfire said: » Completed a 7 boss run tonight with a melee comp. DRK RNG BRD COR GEO WHM and killed C>G>A>E>D>H>B with about 2 mins left on the clock, had some really sloppy parts too so confident we can work on optimisation to get F boss included too. We got A/E metals and skipped all others. Also Monk's roll is totally OP in here. Any info on H beyond don't let him TP? F is extremely annoying with melee, but sounds doable. |
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