bigdave1978 said: »
well se just pissed me off enough to quit i been playing since 03 and now no longer have a reason to bother with this game
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It's just a gil source, kinda weird quitting over this when it was such an obvious exploit.
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My only beef with this whole thing is I think SE needs to focus more on creating ways for players to make gil the legit way. I guarantee you 99.9% of the logs we get in voidwatch are just getting sold to the nearest NPC and not being used what they are meant for in crafting. There is very little incentive to make midlevel gear since most everyone is either Abyssea leeching or Level Sync GOV'ing for experience. There are very few pieces of gear that arent rare/ex that are considered top notch for endgame use either.
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
bigdave1978 said: »
well se just pissed me off enough to quit i been playing since 03 and now no longer have a reason to bother with this game
I do think it's funny however that SE basicly did'nt care, until RMT started abusing it :P
Not like it's been a secret for the last year or two... lol
Almost everything in this game comes back to inventory limitations. If I had way more space to store all these ores and logs I'd be happy to take up smithing or my woodworking more often, but as it is it gets in the way of me doing other things in-game so obviously I'm just going to NPC it instead.
I really don't see it 'really' affecting dynamis all that much. I mean, I'm sure a large percentage of people who blinkered their cruor also did dynamis already for more gil. It's not going to make me do dynamis any more than I already did.
Lakshmi.Inspectorgadget said: »
MI guarantee you 99.9% of the logs we get in voidwatch are just getting sold to the nearest NPC and not being used what they are meant for in crafting.
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
bigdave1978 said: »
well se just pissed me off enough to quit i been playing since 03 and now no longer have a reason to bother with this game
I hardly call it an exploit. Its not like you got gil for doing nothing.
bigdave1978 said: »
well se just pissed me off enough to quit i been playing since 03 and now no longer have a reason to bother with this game
I been playing since beta, and do you not think I have been pissed at SE as well? Its just a game, play it if want or quit, its your call.
Ragnarok.Slyshen said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Zubis said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
How does one remain unaffected by such a large-scale change to the game's economy? Does your character live off the land on some self-sustaining compound atop an isolated cliff in Qufim? Do you grow your own dragons for meat?
You continue to work on your crafts that you've been levelling for more than half a decade.
I craft all day and all night. Making money off lazy people. I can craft all my own ***, I have multiple crafting characters. Plus I own the Cursed Hauberk -1 market on Ragnarok. Not hard when you're determined.
And the people buying from you? Where was their gil coming from?
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Leviathan.Kincard said: »
Almost everything in this game comes back to inventory limitations. If I had way more space to store all these ores and logs I'd be happy to take up smithing or my woodworking more often, but as it is it gets in the way of me doing other things in-game so obviously I'm just going to NPC it instead.
or they can do what the playerbase have been asking for for years and let us sell more than 7 items on the AH and either lower or get rid of AH tax completely.
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All I know is I converted 3m in crour on 2 characters 3-days ago, I'm kind of feeling a bit "whew" over it all. Kinda feel like I stole something now. :3
Asura.Bartimaeus said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
bigdave1978 said: »
well se just pissed me off enough to quit i been playing since 03 and now no longer have a reason to bother with this game
That day I woke up to 30+ stacks of useless bird blood almost made me quit too. DONT HATE ;;;;;;;;;;;;
Kimble2013 said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
bigdave1978 said: »
well se just pissed me off enough to quit i been playing since 03 and now no longer have a reason to bother with this game
I hardly call it an exploit. Its not like you got gil for doing nothing.
how is blinkers an exploit since every mob since scars came out has been able to use blinkers for crour seems to me that se wanted everyone to be able to get better gear and relics
i also have 110 cooking doesnt help much
Kimble2013 said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
bigdave1978 said: »
well se just pissed me off enough to quit i been playing since 03 and now no longer have a reason to bother with this game
I hardly call it an exploit. Its not like you got gil for doing nothing.
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Ragnarok.Slyshen said: »
I completely disagree with you 120%. Game is no diffferent for me than it was 10 years ago, if anything it's dumb-down for a 10 year old and gil is wayyyyy easier to get your hands on now. About it, same game, stupider people.
Do yourself a favor. Stop, think and then post. It's just making you look bad. Don't even start to claim that changes in the economy won't affect you.
Yeah I don't think so... I don't do dynamis, rarely do VW, I craft, that is my hobby. Unless you can give me some thorough evidence on how it's going to affect me directly, stfu.
It will certainly be interesting to see how many stick with eating red currybuns and buying the best ammo for cor and rng until the prices resettle after this change. It was pretty easy to not care about food/ammo costs if you could just blinker to cover the costs occasionally.
Lakshmi.Inspectorgadget said: »
My only beef with this whole thing is I think SE needs to focus more on creating ways for players to make gil the legit way. I guarantee you 99.9% of the logs we get in voidwatch are just getting sold to the nearest NPC and not being used what they are meant for in crafting. There is very little incentive to make midlevel gear since most everyone is either Abyssea leeching or Level Sync GOV'ing for experience. There are very few pieces of gear that arent rare/ex that are considered top notch for endgame use either.
Play as a monster!
Your level 40 Bard Fafnir needs CHR rings to properly debuff the enemy when it uses Horrid Roar.
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how is blinkers an exploit since every mob since scars came out has been able to use blinkers for crour seems to me that se wanted everyone to be able to get better gear and relics
The problem is here is that we're all discussing blinkers under the assumption that SE found it as easy as the playerbase did to buy a massive amount of blinkers at once, when in fact it required you to flip through their awful UI and it would end up eating hours of your time in order to buy a bunch of blinkers and then sell them.
Basically, blinkers were designed with the assumption that bots and programs wouldn't be used to enhance the efficiency of it. Seriously, try manually buying blinkers sometime. I assure you you will get tired of it after the first 4 or 5 trades.
Ragnarok.Corres said: »
Kimble2013 said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
bigdave1978 said: »
well se just pissed me off enough to quit i been playing since 03 and now no longer have a reason to bother with this game
I hardly call it an exploit. Its not like you got gil for doing nothing.
Still takes time to turn Cruor into the Blinkers, NPC them, etc.
Bot =/= exploit. An exploit to me is manipulating the game to do something it isn't meant to do.
Asura.Bartimaeus said: »
But like, you craft and make gil for a reason. Does it not affect you if you have to buy like.. anything? >_>
If prices rise on something you want you have to spend more time making all that easy money. I dunno.
Edit: Things affect you. Now whether it's positive or negative is completely different. IMHO
If prices rise on something you want you have to spend more time making all that easy money. I dunno.
Edit: Things affect you. Now whether it's positive or negative is completely different. IMHO
I craft to craft, and I save my profits. Agreed, but I think I am going to benefit from this update more than anything. Say what you will but that's MY opinion! :)
Kimble2013 said: »
Ragnarok.Corres said: »
Kimble2013 said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
bigdave1978 said: »
well se just pissed me off enough to quit i been playing since 03 and now no longer have a reason to bother with this game
I hardly call it an exploit. Its not like you got gil for doing nothing.
Still takes time to turn Cruor into the Blinkers, NPC them, etc.
Bot =/= exploit. An exploit to me is manipulating the game to do something it isn't meant to do.
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If you consider yourself a producer, you are inevitably part of the economy.
Kimble2013 said: »
Ragnarok.Corres said: »
Kimble2013 said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
bigdave1978 said: »
well se just pissed me off enough to quit i been playing since 03 and now no longer have a reason to bother with this game
I hardly call it an exploit. Its not like you got gil for doing nothing.
Still takes time to turn Cruor into the Blinkers, NPC them, etc.
Bot =/= exploit. An exploit to me is manipulating the game to do something it isn't meant to do.
saddest part is that i don't have a use for my extensive g-15 macro anymore took me about a whole day to do it.
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Ragnarok.Slyshen said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Zubis said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
How does one remain unaffected by such a large-scale change to the game's economy? Does your character live off the land on some self-sustaining compound atop an isolated cliff in Qufim? Do you grow your own dragons for meat?
You continue to work on your crafts that you've been levelling for more than half a decade.
I craft all day and all night. Making money off lazy people. I can craft all my own ***, I have multiple crafting characters. Plus I own the Cursed Hauberk -1 market on Ragnarok. Not hard when you're determined.
And the people buying from you? Where was their gil coming from?
I do not know nor do I care. When you want something, you get it, you find a way. So it might take a couple extra days to sell, big deal. like I said, I'm saving my money for now.
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
If you consider yourself a producer, you are inevitably part of the economy.
I assume you're talking to me, I never said I wasn't a part of the economy, I just said it wasn't going to affect me, at least negatively ha.
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