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 Cerberus.Anjisnu
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2012-10-22 14:21:32
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well then i dare say i should start fishing lik and gugru again
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By Bahamut.Savannahlynn 2012-10-22 14:24:56
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This thread is unofficial until it's purple.
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By spryte 2012-10-22 14:28:25
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ffs....
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By Ragnarok.Raizensun 2012-10-22 14:28:38
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Hmm sounds like vw is goning to take a nosedive
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2012-10-22 14:31:52
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Ragnarok.Raizensun said: »
Hmm sounds like vw is goning to take a nosedive

Did on cerb at least 2+ months ago and now... /shrug
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-10-22 14:39:59
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Ragnarok.Raizensun said: »
Hmm sounds like vw is goning to take a nosedive

that had already happened on shiva before i quit in April.
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By Odin.Madotsuki 2012-10-22 14:42:00
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I think I'm going to be sick... 5.2 mil crour to my name.

Time to... upgrade some atmacites, I guess...
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2012-10-22 14:45:48
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I think people are forgetting to use Abyssea augmentable weapons. 7k-ish for 2.5k dominion notes.
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By Lakshmi.Chilzen 2012-10-22 14:47:15
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Only thing that can come close to saving VW at this rate is if SE adds plates to basically all T3+ mobs on Jeuno and probably all the Outland mobs, since there goes the motivation most people had to throw their stones out with this heavy blow to cruor to gil conversion.

There's hope they'll move in that direction eventually, right?
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-10-22 14:47:53
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Bahamut.Savannahlynn said: »
This thread is unofficial until it's purple.
I was busy, but it's not like we didn't know it was coming.

I would like to see Haks get nerfed, give the players who care about fishing their cheap lures back :\
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2012-10-22 14:48:10
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Not sure how I feel about this. I never did Blinker runs for gil, but to even go to lengths of removing pearl/teal to be sellable... =0
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2012-10-22 14:48:56
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Haks?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-10-22 14:49:27
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So voidwatch is less profitable than it was before. BALANCE?

See id have no issue with a counteracting a nerf with a good benefit to players but in SE fashion balance is a one armed scale where you get punished and your reward is perhaps a reprieve on future nerfs.
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By Bahamut.Savannahlynn 2012-10-22 14:51:27
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Bahamut.Savannahlynn said: »
This thread is unofficial until it's purple.
I was busy, but it's not like we didn't know it was coming.

I would like to see Haks get nerfed, give the players who care about fishing their cheap lures back :\

I'm just used to seeing purple D: And you always make it all so pretty :(

EDIT: I don't even have time to play and never took advantage of this anyway lol
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By Phoenix.Cathaldus 2012-10-22 14:52:58
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67 gil apparently, nice.
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By Asura.Originalkord 2012-10-22 14:53:49
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I like when SE goes to the extreme.

"Sure, we could BAN the RMT for doing the thing that is against the ToS...or we can get rid of it all together and screw the legitimate player base."

I am not saying that something should not have been done, but as always, they take the easy way out. At least all those RMT accounts are still paying subscription fees.
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By Siren.Fupafighters 2012-10-22 14:55:07
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Bahamut.Dannyl said: »
Not sure how I feel about this. I never did Blinker runs for gil, but to even go to lengths of removing pearl/teal to be sellable... =0
With a mule, legit farming cruor at a rate of 150k cruor an hour would bank me 750k gil an hour.
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By Siren.Barber 2012-10-22 14:56:25
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I think it will be really interesting to see what happens to heavy metal plates. On one hand participation in VW will tank without the gil motivation. Logically this would make prices go up. However, most of the people I know that are buying HMP fund their purchases with.....crour. So their ability to pay for the plates that will be available will decrease.

I don't see someone with multiple relics/emps grinding out shihei snyths to afford another weapon like the old days. I guess we will see.
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By Bismarck.Punchus 2012-10-22 15:01:51
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Carbuncle.Anesthesia said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Inb4 next thing they hit is haks

nonononononononononononononoononononoonoooooooooooooooooooo

To be honest, haks might take care of themselves. I wouldn't be surprised to see a fleet of ebisus appear, to the point where it's just not worth it to buy minnows.

I stopped even trying to buy minnows/sinkers a while ago. Spend a day fishing sardines and make bait from them. Catch rate isn't as bad as you'd think. Cost is about the same or less.
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By Asura.Shua 2012-10-22 15:04:18
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SE's Thoughts about Player's Vs. RMT:
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-10-22 15:04:30
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Siren.Barber said: »
I think it will be really interesting to see what happens to heavy metal plates. On one hand participation in VW will tank without the gil motivation. Logically this would make prices go up. However, most of the people I know that are buying HMP fund their purchases with.....crour. So their ability to pay for the plates that will be available will decrease.

I don't see someone with multiple relics/emps grinding out shihei snyths to afford another weapon like the old days. I guess we will see.

Now instead of making a Qilin shout and killing 18 Qilins in 2 hours (they get an average of 8.1 plates, the other 17 people put 137.7 plates into circulation), these people will spend their 2 hours farming Dynamis and sell the Dynamis currency. They'll use the gil they get from that to buy someone else's plates, and plate prices will increase until making Qilin alliances and farming Dynamis are equivalently desirable.

Plate value will increase. I'm going to guess it'll go up to 110-120k (~95k each on Lakshmi at the moment). You'd mathematically predict higher, but people like doing Voidwatch more than they like farming Dynamis and Dynamis has competition problems.
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By Carbuncle.Burkey 2012-10-22 15:06:24
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Siren.Barber said: »
I think it will be really interesting to see what happens to heavy metal plates. On one hand participation in VW will tank without the gil motivation. Logically this would make prices go up. However, most of the people I know that are buying HMP fund their purchases with.....crour. So their ability to pay for the plates that will be available will decrease.

I don't see someone with multiple relics/emps grinding out shihei snyths to afford another weapon like the old days. I guess we will see.
if people decide to continue doing vw, they will go down, a lot
if people decide to drop vw from their daily routine (as i know many probably will), they will go up, a lot

considering the horrible drop rates for items for 99% of the players (aside nub/leetist *** who get everything) all those players do vw for is cruor->gil. with this out of the picture id say vw drops but hey its been only a couple hours..no vw shouts yet tho just lots of /yell and /shout convos
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By Siren.Barber 2012-10-22 15:09:11
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Siren.Barber said: »
I think it will be really interesting to see what happens to heavy metal plates. On one hand participation in VW will tank without the gil motivation. Logically this would make prices go up. However, most of the people I know that are buying HMP fund their purchases with.....crour. So their ability to pay for the plates that will be available will decrease.

I don't see someone with multiple relics/emps grinding out shihei snyths to afford another weapon like the old days. I guess we will see.

Now instead of making a Qilin shout and killing 18 Qilins in 2 hours (they get an average of 8.1 plates, the other 17 people put 137.7 plates into circulation), these people will spend their 2 hours farming Dynamis and sell the Dynamis currency. They'll use the gil they get from that to buy someone else's plates, and plate prices will increase until making Qilin alliances and farming Dynamis are equivalently desirable.

Plate value will increase. I'm going to guess it'll go up to 110-120k (~95k each on Lakshmi at the moment). You'd mathematically predict higher, but people like doing Voidwatch more than they like farming Dynamis and Dynamis has competition problems.

That's true, but you can't just double the amount of people in dynamis and think currency availability will double. Because of competition the average currency haul per person will decrease. Those same 18 people, even spread out in all 3 COP zones, are going to create a tremendous overcrowding situation. Now add everyone getting crour from cleaves/etc that no longer has an income. Do they do dyna too? It just can't hold everyone. Lastly, maybe not a lot but I bet some people just flat out quit faced with the idea of fishing moat carp to make a living. It's going to be really interesting to see where prices go.

One thing is for sure......I sure am glad I only have 90k crour to my name.
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By Shiva.Darkmacabre 2012-10-22 15:13:31
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Soon as I read the OP this was my response:
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2012-10-22 15:13:49
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can someone please explain what Haks mean?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-10-22 15:14:01
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Hakuryu
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By Bismarck.Narshee 2012-10-22 15:14:06
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Its a fish.
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2012-10-22 15:16:04
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ah ty, seen several people asking over couple diff threads.
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By Fenrir.Cheato 2012-10-22 15:18:16
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