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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-11 14:31:56
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Where are all the "oppressed women" calling for the end of laws that continue alimony? I would think as "equals" there would be no need for one side to continuously receive an allowance from their ex husband.

Raising a kid is expensive, and for some reason (not sure how it is now) Women tend to get the kids moreso then the Men.
Alimony is separate from child support. Only get alimony if you're divorced.

Oh I getcha. Interesting concept o.O what is it for?
It's basically to protect the person with no or lesser income in a marriage. So say, for example you give up your career to spend more time raising the children or vice versa. you lose potential income and experience due to a joint decision. In order to keep the other member afloat the person making the money is to contribute to the other even though they are now divorced... Kind of a shitty explanation but yea.
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By Ramuh.Kailana 2012-03-11 14:33:22
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Phoenix.Blonde said: »
"Raising a kid is expensive, and for some reason (not sure how it is now) Women tend to get the kids moreso then the Men."

This is off topic, once again there are single men raising kids and it is just as expensive for them.
The topic relates to a woman's opportunity to make decisions on a woman's topic.
Men don't take birth control pills (although I'm sure if a vasectomy was the alternative, they might reconsider the pill :)
Men also do not lactate.

Women's issues!

Fine, women are robots.

TOPIC DONE. eesh.
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By Phoenix.Blonde 2012-03-11 14:35:00
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Where are all the "oppressed women" calling for the end of laws that continue alimony? I would think as "equals" there would be no need for one side to continuously receive an allowance from their ex husband.

I had a lady in a class over the summer that actually was saying she didn't get enough, I'm like *** your crazy.

I guess for the women who raised the family and the man worked, the woman having no job skills to speak of because of the sacrifice for the family I can understand it to that point.

But it's gotten way out of hand.

edit: same lady that about spit fire when I made fun of people who were allergic to peanuts, she is apparently.

I'm sorry if a kid knows he gets sick from peanut butter he shouldn't eat peanut butter, natural selection.

All of this is off topic. Just sayin.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-11 14:37:35
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Where are all the "oppressed women" calling for the end of laws that continue alimony? I would think as "equals" there would be no need for one side to continuously receive an allowance from their ex husband.

I had a lady in a class over the summer that actually was saying she didn't get enough, I'm like *** your crazy.

I guess for the women who raised the family and the man worked, the woman having no job skills to speak of because of the sacrifice for the family I can understand it to that point.

But it's gotten way out of hand.

edit: same lady that about spit fire when I made fun of people who were allergic to peanuts, she is apparently.

I'm sorry if a kid knows he gets sick from peanut butter he shouldn't eat peanut butter, natural selection.

All of this is off topic. Just sayin.
Have you ever been on these forums before? lol you're lucky if you can keep it on topic for the first page ^^.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-03-11 14:37:45
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Can someone explain alimony to me?
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-03-11 14:38:21
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
I had a lady in a class over the summer that actually was saying she didn't get enough, I'm like *** your crazy.

I guess for the women who raised the family and the man worked, the woman having no job skills to speak of because of the sacrifice for the family I can understand it to that point.

But it's gotten way out of hand.

edit: same lady that about spit fire when I made fun of people who were allergic to peanuts, she is apparently.

I'm sorry if a kid knows he gets sick from peanut butter he shouldn't eat peanut butter, natural selection.

Actually, speaking of alimony and child support. I'm kind of on the fence about both. Like I said earlier, when starting a family women know that they will be putting themselves in the position that will hinder their careers. Choice.

Sorry...Hate to say it, but I kind of look down on gals who started banging out babies right away, and complain about how shitty their lives are. I really can't identify with some of my distant friends who were once close ones in high school. (Shame on me! I know.) There is one who had the tenacity and brains to finish college right away. She gets my admiration! Some are left wallowing in the tar-pit that they sank themselves in, and depend solely on child support, alimony, husbands/BFs (whatever the case may be)...I would be ashamed of myself if I couldn't at least support myself. They're handicapped. It's really sad.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-11 14:39:13
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Can someone explain alimony to me?
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Alimony (also called maintenance (Britain) and spousal support (U.S.)) is a U.S. term denoting a legal obligation to provide financial support to one's spouse from the other spouse after marital separation or from the ex-spouse upon divorce. It is established by divorce law or family law in many countries and is based on the premise that both spouses in theory have a legal obligation to support each other during their marriage (or civil union) or upon separation or/and divorce.

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By Ramuh.Kailana 2012-03-11 14:40:19
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GUYS WE'RE ALL OFF TOPIC GUYS
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By Phoenix.Blonde 2012-03-11 14:41:28
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Actually, speaking of alimony and child support. I'm kind of on the fence about both. Like I said earlier, when starting a family women know that they will be putting themselves in the position that will hinder their careers. Choice.

WEll Men do understand that when they ejaculate inside a woman she can get pregnant right? Therefore they are making the "choice" as you call it to pay child support should a child be the result of that union.
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By Phoenix.Blonde 2012-03-11 14:42:07
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Actually, speaking of alimony and child support. I'm kind of on the fence about both. Like I said earlier, when starting a family women know that they will be putting themselves in the position that will hinder their careers. Choice.

WEll Men do understand that when they ejaculate inside a woman she can get pregnant right? Therefore they are making the "choice" as you call it to pay child support should a child be the result of that union.
I'm off topic!
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-11 14:43:47
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Actually, speaking of alimony and child support. I'm kind of on the fence about both. Like I said earlier, when starting a family women know that they will be putting themselves in the position that will hinder their careers. Choice.

WEll Men do understand that when they ejaculate inside a woman she can get pregnant right? Therefore they are making the "choice" as you call it to pay child support should a child be the result of that union.
Oh so many things...
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-03-11 14:43:49
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Actually, speaking of alimony and child support. I'm kind of on the fence about both. Like I said earlier, when starting a family women know that they will be putting themselves in the position that will hinder their careers. Choice.

WEll Men do understand that when they ejaculate inside a woman she can get pregnant right? Therefore they are making the "choice" as you call it to pay child support should a child be the result of that union.

You understand I have a vagina, right?
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By Bahamut.Savannahlynn 2012-03-11 14:44:29
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Phoenix.Blonde said: »
Actually, speaking of alimony and child support. I'm kind of on the fence about both. Like I said earlier, when starting a family women know that they will be putting themselves in the position that will hinder their careers. Choice.

WEll Men do understand that when they ejaculate inside a woman she can get pregnant right? Therefore they are making the "choice" as you call it to pay child support should a child be the result of that union.

Nope...
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By Phoenix.Blonde 2012-03-11 14:44:54
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Actually, speaking of alimony and child support. I'm kind of on the fence about both. Like I said earlier, when starting a family women know that they will be putting themselves in the position that will hinder their careers. Choice.

WEll Men do understand that when they ejaculate inside a woman she can get pregnant right? Therefore they are making the "choice" as you call it to pay child support should a child be the result of that union.

You understand I have a vagina, right?

Umm? Maybe?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-11 14:46:15
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Actually, speaking of alimony and child support. I'm kind of on the fence about both. Like I said earlier, when starting a family women know that they will be putting themselves in the position that will hinder their careers. Choice.

WEll Men do understand that when they ejaculate inside a woman she can get pregnant right? Therefore they are making the "choice" as you call it to pay child support should a child be the result of that union.
Phoenix.Blonde said: »
Actually, speaking of alimony and child support. I'm kind of on the fence about both. Like I said earlier, when starting a family women know that they will be putting themselves in the position that will hinder their careers. Choice.

WEll Men do understand that when they ejaculate inside a woman she can get pregnant right? Therefore they are making the "choice" as you call it to pay child support should a child be the result of that union.

Nope...
Child support and alimony laws differ per state like many things do...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-11 14:46:30
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Actually, speaking of alimony and child support. I'm kind of on the fence about both. Like I said earlier, when starting a family women know that they will be putting themselves in the position that will hinder their careers. Choice.

WEll Men do understand that when they ejaculate inside a woman she can get pregnant right? Therefore they are making the "choice" as you call it to pay child support should a child be the result of that union.

You understand I have a vagina, right?
Go on...
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2012-03-11 14:48:27
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Actually, speaking of alimony and child support. I'm kind of on the fence about both. Like I said earlier, when starting a family women know that they will be putting themselves in the position that will hinder their careers. Choice.

WEll Men do understand that when they ejaculate inside a woman she can get pregnant right? Therefore they are making the "choice" as you call it to pay child support should a child be the result of that union.

Nope...

Is this actually possible? It would be great if so. I was under the impression that it was not!

I have a very mixed and somewhat inconclusive stance on such things, on a side note - yes, pregnancy is a possible result of sex, but if both partners discuss and decide they do not in fact want children, should an accident occur, a woman still has a chance to decide to keep/lose the pregnancy. A man at this point has no control whatsoever... unless the above is true.

Whether this should be accepted as a risk or not, I am not sure.
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By Bahamut.Savannahlynn 2012-03-11 14:49:46
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Child support and alimony laws differ per state like many things do...

Regardless, saying they're stuck paying isn't necessarily true. Saying they're going to go to jail for contempt for not paying isn't necessarily true.

EDIT: @Raen; Yes it is. My father was so backed up in child support he signed over his rights. My mother had the option of throwing him in jail for a month (since he wouldn't pay), but opted against it. Putting him in jail wasn't going to bring in the money either, so she just gave up on it.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-11 14:52:02
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My exs brother became a dad few years ago, he signed some paperwork, and now he have nothing what-so-ever to do with said child.
Idk if he ever even met the kid.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-11 14:52:07
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I personally say we just give out free BC and condoms to everyone and be like god damnit you little *** use these now and every single time! None of this but baby I really want to feel what its like to be inside you without it. In fact *unwraps condom package* you go into the bathroom right now and put this on right now so you just have it on!
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By Kikorimo 2012-03-11 14:52:56
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Was contraception really just compared to viagra? Seriously?

Seriously?

Odin.Creaucent said: »
I dont see anyone killing women just because they have breasticles.

You must know nothing of domestic violence.
Although it is nowhere near as common, I have witnessed domestic violence in the reverse; the man was being abused by the woman. It goes both ways and neither is right. As some people have already pointed out, there are problems on both sides of the fence here. People need to acknowledge that there are problems on both sides and then work to fix them, otherwise we get nowhere...
Double standards are everywhere, and where some might benefit one side, they screw the other, and I mean this in both ways.
Everyone is human, and they should be treated as such.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-11 14:53:20
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Child support and alimony laws differ per state like many things do...

Regardless, saying they're stuck paying isn't necessarily true. Saying they're going to go to jail for contempt for not paying isn't necessarily true.

EDIT: @Raen; Yes it is. My father was so backed up in child support he signed over his rights. My mother had the option of throwing him in jail for a month (since he wouldn't pay), but opted against it. Putting him in jail wasn't going to bring in the money either, so she just gave up on it.
There really is no regardless because while that might be true in one state it may not be in another...
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-03-11 14:54:42
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
I personally say we just give out free BC and condoms to everyone and be like god damnit you little *** use these now and every single time! None of this but baby I really want to feel what its like to be inside you without it. In fact *unwraps condom package* you go into the bathroom right now and put this on right now so you just have it on!

***, go to Planned Parenthood. They give out like, grab bags of condoms.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-11 14:55:05
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Was contraception really just compared to viagra? Seriously?

Seriously?

Odin.Creaucent said: »
I dont see anyone killing women just because they have breasticles.

You must know nothing of domestic violence.
Although it is nowhere near as common, I have witnessed domestic violence in the reverse; the man was being abused by the woman. It goes both ways and neither is right. As some people have already pointed out, there are problems on both sides of the fence here. People need to acknowledge that there are problems on both sides and then work to fix them, otherwise we get nowhere...
Double standards are everywhere, and where some might benefit one side, they screw the other, and I mean this in both ways.
Everyone is human, and they should be treated as such.
Didn't you guys hear about the teen mom thing on MTV or whatever show that was. She actually went to prison for physically abusing the guy.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-11 14:55:34
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I personally say we just give out free BC and condoms to everyone and be like god damnit you little *** use these now and every single time! None of this but baby I really want to feel what its like to be inside you without it. In fact *unwraps condom package* you go into the bathroom right now and put this on right now so you just have it on!

***, go to Planned Parenthood. They give out like, grab bags of condoms.
Are they ribbed for her pleasure?

Joking aside its more of a lazy and also not knowing that that people don't go to places like that. Or they just don't want to be seen there.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-03-11 14:56:44
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In general alimony is paid into perpetuity (or given a significant event that changes the conditions), but is taxed. Child support is untaxed but ends when the child is emancipated.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-11 14:58:30
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Cerberus.Eugene said: »
In general alimony is paid into perpetuity (or given a significant event that changes the conditions), but is taxed. Child support is untaxed but ends when the child is emancipated.
Alimony varies too. In TX you have to meet very specific guidelines and also it can last only a maximum of 10 years.

Edit: in CA I think they just rob you and take half then give the other half to the other spouse lol.
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2012-03-11 15:00:10
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Where are all the "oppressed women" calling for the end of laws that continue alimony? I would think as "equals" there would be no need for one side to continuously receive an allowance from their ex husband.

I had a lady in a class over the summer that actually was saying she didn't get enough, I'm like *** your crazy.

I guess for the women who raised the family and the man worked, the woman having no job skills to speak of because of the sacrifice for the family I can understand it to that point.

But it's gotten way out of hand.

edit: same lady that about spit fire when I made fun of people who were allergic to peanuts, she is apparently.

I'm sorry if a kid knows he gets sick from peanut butter he shouldn't eat peanut butter, natural selection.

All of this is off topic. Just sayin.

No its not. The thread was about more than birth control. It was about how mistreated women are. All this is very on topic.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-03-11 15:00:27
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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In general alimony is paid into perpetuity (or given a significant event that changes the conditions), but is taxed. Child support is untaxed but ends when the child is emancipated.
Alimony varies too. In TX you have to meet very specific guidelines and also it can last only a maximum of 10 years.

Edit: in CA I think they just rob you and take half then give the other half to the other spouse lol.

You're right it does vary by state.
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By Kikorimo 2012-03-11 15:03:48
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Didn't you guys hear about the teen mom thing on MTV or whatever show that was. She actually went to prison for physically abusing the guy.
Actually no, I did now though, and it's gotta be the first time I've seen something done about it when it's reversed... Often when it's the man being abused it's not usually talked about and/or nothing is done. I refer again to my previous post though, everyone is human, and everyone should be treated as such. If I need to elaborate on that for anyone then I don't see why they are even discussing this matter, their mind is already made up and they are not for equality of any sort anyways.
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