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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-11 23:33:50
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Lil bit
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By Ramuh.Kailana 2012-03-11 23:42:09
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It's ok if you have a Jones Strawberry Lime Soda.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-03-11 23:49:03
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Ragnarok.Eriina said: »
Opening this thread was like stepping on a mental dog turd.

This thread could have become a little grittier. Someone mentioned blood clots. Be happy I didn't share. :) Long story short...Don't smoke while on birth control. Better yet, don't smoke.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-11 23:56:30
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Thank you for not elaborating on the blood clots :|
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-03-12 00:06:39
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Ragnarok.Eriina said: »
Opening this thread was like stepping on a mental dog turd.

This thread could have become a little grittier. Someone mentioned blood clots. Be happy I didn't share. :) Long story short...Don't smoke while on birth control. Better yet, don't smoke.
I am unhappy that you did not share in greater detail.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-03-12 03:15:12
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oh another interesting thing in regard to the constitution in regards to intellectual property, it's supposed to be protected for a limited amount of time in order to encourage growth.

Wonder how many people of both parties would nullify some copyrights after 5-10 years.

(random number that I just made up, don't take any meaning behind it).
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2012-03-12 04:21:55
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Damn inferior human's need for sleep..... I missed all the action last night!
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By fyreus 2012-03-12 13:02:27
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Did you realize that she's talking about other women? Plus there's a certain party that's trying their damn best to defult/get rid of planned parenthood. We're not misguided.
Yes, but she is trying to be the poster child, the innocent helpless face of the "emotional and financial burdens" of not being able to afford her luxuries AND birth control. And PP SHOULD be gotten rid of and replaced with a less politically motivated women's health system. They get public funding to perform abortions, even though roughly half of the country abhors abortion. And don't quote their accounting statistics, because they are false.I don't want to pay for someone else's irresponsibility or extracurricular activities. Is that so wrong?

She isn't trying to be the poster anything. The problem is that people don't realize that they aren't required to follow the nonsense a political party is shoving down their throats. Secondly PP isn't a politically motivated ANYTHING. Don't read pamplets that people you know are passing out, go to a PP and ask yourself and it's not a women's health system /facepalm... it's a community service. Lastly title x forbids what you are claiming and you will never find any proof in your favor because it doesn't exist.

This is why you should research things yourself.
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By Artemicion 2012-03-12 13:08:41
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Look at it this way:
You could have your tax dollars spent on preventing unnecessary births, or you can use your tax dollars towards the benefits and well being of unnecessary births from life to death.

Protip: One is far more expensive than the other.
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By Fenrir.Kelyn 2012-03-12 13:19:09
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Planned Parenthood isn't politically motivated? WTF? Really?

Sounds like you are the one who needs to do some research. Geeez.

I guess PITA, Unions, Moveon.org, or the NRA aren't politically motivated either.
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By Artemicion 2012-03-12 13:25:48
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Well of course they're politically motivated to some degree because their foundation is often at the mercy of federal funds and government spending. One can't be politically stoic when their institution lies either in a cradle or a noose depending on partisan influence and policy. But frankly I'm all for planned parenthood and the federal funding of birth control. If you have to ask why, just watch this video (as pessimistic as it is).

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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-03-12 13:39:36
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Fenrir.Kelyn said: »
Planned Parenthood isn't politically motivated? WTF? Really?

Sounds like you are the one who needs to do some research. Geeez.

I guess PITA, Unions, Moveon.org, or the NRA aren't politically motivated either.

comparing the NRA to planned parenthood is like comparing an In-n-Out burger animal style to a salad with no dressing. Complete opposite sides of the spectrum.

PP is a non-pro that provides healthcare services. Healthcare by definition is supposed to not be politically affliated via the Hippocratic/Physician's Oath.

"I will not permit considerations of religion, nationality, race, party politics, social standing, or sexual orientation to intervene between my duty and my patient."
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-03-12 13:40:37
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Fenrir.Kelyn said: »
Planned Parenthood isn't politically motivated? WTF? Really?

Sounds like you are the one who needs to do some research. Geeez.

I guess PITA, Unions, Moveon.org, or the NRA aren't politically motivated either.

lol.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-03-12 13:42:13
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Fenrir.Kelyn said: »
Planned Parenthood isn't politically motivated? WTF? Really?

Sounds like you are the one who needs to do some research. Geeez.

I guess PETA, Unions, Moveon.org, or the NRA aren't politically motivated either.

FTFY

Pitas are delicious.
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By Fenrir.Kelyn 2012-03-12 13:47:16
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Ha Ha - You are correct sir.

PITA - made with lamb, and they are delicious.

PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals, and I hear their naked super model activist are delicious.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-03-12 14:27:27
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Ragnarok.Eriina said: »
Opening this thread was like stepping on a mental dog turd.

This thread could have become a little grittier. Someone mentioned blood clots. Be happy I didn't share. :) Long story short...Don't smoke while on birth control. Better yet, don't smoke.
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By Cecilharvey 2012-03-12 15:55:20
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On Topic, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/glenn-w-smith/where-the-boys-arent_b_1338074.html
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-03-12 16:14:07
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^^^Great read!^^^

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And if your chivalry is dead and you are a man thinking only of yourself, there is a lot of data to get you to stand up anyway with the good guys. Planned Parenthood screened more than 4 million patients in 2010 for STD, STI, HIV and HPV. Here's another one of those disturbing almost 100 percent statistics, too: Women testing positive for those conditions contracted their problem from a man. So, fellas, how hard is it to understand that when Republicans try to defund Planned Parenthood, it's your health they are jeopardizing, too?

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You finished too soon. The Right is climbing in your bedroom window. This is not just a question of women's health care; it's about the health of every American drawing a breath. It's past time to speak up. Write letters to elected officials. Make your voices heard on social networks. Don't just attend women's health care rallies. Organize them. Give to Planned Parenthood. Vote the barbarians out of office.

Because of physiological differences (have we mentioned how happy those make us?), men and women need different kinds of health services. And those of us who are of the male gender ought to be embarrassed that women's health care is a political issue. That singular fact in this election year points to a moral and medical failure. The line might be a bit hackneyed but it's probably true that if men got pregnant, reproductive health and the sanctity of individual choice wouldn't be issues.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-03-12 16:25:09
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While the aim of that article is definitely good. 1) it fails to highlight that women take birth control for other reasons besides contraception. 2) it can be read two ways:

a)one can read this as supporting the notion that men should have an equal voice in female health care(which i do not support).
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b)one could read it as, men should help their girlfriends/wives/daughters.

"But we do get pregnant, boyos. Do we really need to explain that pregnancy is a biological and emotional condition shared by men and women?"

No men don't get pregnant lol. And its not shared lol. When males start getting stretch marks and carrying that heavy thing for 9 months then we're talking. Oh lets not forget the spider veins and varicose veins women get on their thighs from carrying children. Men also don't have to endure the physical pain of labor.

Also PPD from pregnancy isn't shared by men. This women on the forums on huffingtonpost puts it best

"listen to the number of young women that become pregnant and the boy is nowhere to be seen, often at the assistance of the young man's family (little Billy is the not the one pregnant so why should his future be ruined attitude.)"
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-03-12 16:31:13
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LOL! Killjoy! J/K!

The article still was full of good intentions. I'm in TX. I'm very thankful that I have always had insurance, and a mother who was an RN in obstetrics and gynecology. Unfortunately, some ladies here are not so lucky.

Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
1) it fails to highlight that women take birth control for other reasons besides contraception.

Most of the men I know are not ignorant of this fact.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-03-12 16:33:50
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Most of the men I know are not ignorant of this fact.

Tell that to Rush Limbaugh and Pope Benedict XVI.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-03-12 16:36:02
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I'm talking about everyday people. That's where it begins.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-12 16:38:47
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Women can drive you crazy!! But if God made anything better than a women. He kept it for himself, lol.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-03-12 16:39:03
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whether the everyday people u encounter are aware of that is irrelevant. there are numerous men out there who arnt aware of the benefits associated with bc pills, besides contraception. the fact needs to be stated. women take it for OTHER reasons, in addition to contraception. end of discussion.

they may not be "everyday men" to you, but their public statements are influencing the thoughts and opinions of "everyday men."
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-03-12 16:41:35
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Who exactly made you the authority on women? Just wondering...
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-03-12 16:42:17
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Who exactly made you the authority on women? Just wondering...

God and the Pope :p lol jk

Seriously, though, i meant no offense in that reply. I'm a firm supporter of women's rights and healthcare reform for women. I used to work for AIDS project Los Angeles, I still volunteer there. And let me tell you men ask some of the stupidest questions regarding the pill.

I kid you not I had a couple come in and think the pill prevented STIs. So i think its important we educate the male community in particular of the effects of bc.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-12 16:53:53
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There are many reasons besides birth control for the pill. Heavy flow, cramps , I even heard ache for women, lol.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-12 16:54:43
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Mood!! Lol!!!
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-03-12 17:02:23
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Who exactly made you the authority on women? Just wondering...

God and the Pope :p lol jk

Seriously, though, i meant no offense in that reply. I'm a firm supporter of women's rights and healthcare reform for women. I used to work for AIDS project Los Angeles, I still volunteer there. And let me tell you men ask some of the stupidest questions regarding the pill.

I kid you not I had a couple come in and think the pill prevented STIs. So i think its important we educate the male community in particular of the effects of bc.

NP. Understandable. It's actually pretty admirable that you would want to share your knowledge. I just can't think of too many men in my circles who don't know by now. LOL! Then again, their knowledge could just come with age and more experience with women.

Do you work in the medical field?
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-03-12 17:13:05
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Do you work in the medical field?

somewhat, I'm more "behind the scenes." I'm currently a doctoral student in bacterial genetics. However, I do have my Master's of Public Health.

I volunteer at AIDS Project monthly, I just answer random questions have about STI's, HIV/AIDS, medications, preventive measures. Since we provide full health care services to no-income/low-income individuals I hear a wide range of questions.
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