"Are Women People?"

You're are correct sir/madam! I agree with ya.

I agree with you, except that female=>male domestic violence is actually almost as common if not more common than the reverse.

http://www.eworldwire.com/pressrelease/17670

You just don't hear as much about it. There are battered woman's shelters, but little to no relief for men. If an incident occurs, the man is automatically assumed to be the perpetrator (and some branches of law enforcement are told specifically to always arrest the male).

The birth control issue extends beyond contraceptive measures. For women, taking birth control on a regular basis reduces the risk of ovarian cancer. Specific brands of birth control pills also reduce PMS and PMDD symptoms(Yaz), acne and/or menstrual bleeding etc.

So i can see why women are upset about this because. I dont think any woman enjoys PMS or PMDD.

That post was actually to try and lighten up the mood in here but yeah... Anyways wasn't yaz recalled awhile back for causing all kinds of problems?

wrong, there are things done about that. it is still not spoken about it big time in the media but authorities take domestic or any violence whether it be a women or a man serious. The problem is the mind of men when they get beaten or experienced some other abuse: i probably deserved it (since everything bad is male-made is what they get teached very early on in school), or noone would take them serious.

I more meant, if a split is decided upon, why should either support the other? I do not get it.

Rejection is only thing I hate about women haha

A certain batch was recalled, but It's still available for Px in the US. I guess that's something you'd have to take up with your gynecologist(if your female).

The FDA is still evaluating the risks of Drospirenone and blood clotting.
Safety review update on the possible increased risk of blood clots with birth control pills containing drospirenone

no, it was about alimony+ something off topic but related to the same person, pay attention.

Just to clarify, Rick Santorum didn't say she was his rock which is usually good like you said. He calls his wife “the rock which I stand upon.”

That's not quite the same thing.

It kinda is though.

Usually you don't stand upon those who support you. They help and guide you, but (to me) being stod upon implies something else entirely.

I thought it was a funny end to the article because Santorum seems to mess up a lot of phrases and this is just another one he mangled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pAzuNtsc6M

"Honey you are a rock
Upon which I stand
And I come here to talk
I hope you understand

The green eyes, yeah the spotlight, shines upon you
And how could, anybody, deny you?"

Just saying!

No, its a reference to being the source of stability in one's life. Its not an uncommon expression at all.

I have never heard it used that way (obviously it has been). I understood the phrase used currently came from the bible.

“The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower. (Psalms 18:2)”

A wife is not God (in this instance) but this is also why it is has been seen as such a nice compliment(my opinion). I don't think Santorum would refer to standing on God (but hey, who knows).

Semantics, it's fun

I have been asking this for years! So are they people? I have my doubts!

They're still doing that war on women?

Yeah, that was what I was about to say, lolsemantics. However, I know I have heard the phrase a few times in my life. The thing is, we know what he means. He knows what he means. The author of this article knows what he means, yet she tried to twist it to suit her purpose and in return ruined the creditablility of the entire article.

You would think they would know better than to go to war with something that bleeds for 5 days straight and doesn't die. It's an unwinnable fight.

See this is really the annoying part that most people skip over or don't bring up in most conversations about this topic. There are thousands of free clinics in the US, many within a 30 minute drive of most people. These clinics give away free, birth control, condoms, and other contraceptives at no charge. If it's too embarrassing for people to utilize these resources, then a quick google search easily shows that you can get birth control for as little a 10$. (Which is pretty affordable, my copay for my insurance is 10$ no matter what medication I have filled anyway. Even with insurance you're still gonna have to fork out some cash.)

Insurance companies are private entities, some of them will offer pans that cover viagra, birth control, amoung other things, and some will not. If your insurance doesn't cover the things you need, get a different plan. If you can't afford it, use other options at your disposal, like the ones mentioned above.

If you can't afford birth control you're doing something wrong. All this "war on women" is an invented conflict during an election year to misguide the easily misguided women to be wary of Republicans. Sandra Fluke can't afford birth control, but is flying cross-country to see her bf. This is wrong on soooo many levels. First of all, if your bf is 2000 miles away, why do you need $3k in birth control? And if you can afford the ticket (oh yeah and the Ivy League degree) then you aren't strapped for cash. It's all a sideshow to distract from Fast and Furious, Sheriff Joe, gas prices, unemployment, etc.

Except you've got one party in this country obsessed with removing the options for birth control altogether.

And yes, I stress the word obsessed because that's what it is, an obsession.

Its not quite that simple. Planed Parenthood and other non-pro's have income requirements. So you can technically be "low-income" and still make "too much." Also if you have health insurance you usually cant access such resources. It becomes every more complicated if your a single mom. (E.g. your ex-husband is supposed to pay you child support and doesn't make payments. Well that child support your NOT getting still gets factored into your income).

PP Income Reqs

We just rise again, and again, and again.

...and we are also robots.

Women live longer than men.
More females are born than males.
Women birth our young.

There's a reason why women have been suppressed by male-dominated societies for centuries ... it's because subconsciously men know damned well that they're biologically inferior to women.

Say whatever you want ... that's all truth.

One day, unfortunately, science and culture will probably advance to the point where men will become quite unnecessary ... except for labor (the work kind), entertainment (for women), and sperm donation.

When the women are in charge of society someday (it will happen, maybe or maybe not be in my lifetime ... probably not), us men better hope they chose to treat us better than we've treated them over the past 2,000 years. And you know what ... they probably will ... one more reason why women are the superior sex.

I think overall this topic has become very slanted, but everything is important. Men and women have come in and supported both sides of the topic, some extreme and some not.

America has become a nation that has shifted from oppressing minorities, or coming majorities in the case of women, to trying to integrate them into a world they were once banned from because it is right to do so and all people are created equal. Equal is a term that means that everyone should be safe and have protections; the facts are that people are different and the 'equality' that women fight for is a blanket statement rule of 'x' should apply the same way to women as it does men. The problem then becomes that if those statements apply the same way then one of two things has to happen:

1. Women lose special privileges granted to them by governments/society's cultural beliefs.
2. Men gain special privileges granted to them by governments/society's cultural beliefs.

There were decades in every culture where women were seen as the caretaker of the home and there are many cultures who still see it that way because of the way women are perceived due to religion or their own experiences growing up. Just like every other thing in life change takes time and extreme thinking is what is going to get progress stopped. Should women have a say in birth control and things that happen to them and will be used by them for their health? Sure they should; its something they should be discussing with their boyfriends/husbands/doctors etc. Just because the government comes up with a solution doesnt mean it will blanket over all women and solve all issues.

On that note, it should be said that child birth is something that directly effects both the mother and the father, it should not just solely be the mothers decision because it is their body; it should be the fathers too because ultimately the child will be the fathers decision too. Regardless of how each person deals with the case, and even if the government rules on certain aspects of it, this is an issue that will still mostly come down to how women and their partners/doctors will come to a decision. Should birth control be free? Of course it should, for many women it is important to their daily health other than just to avoid pregnancy. But saying that it should be a female only discussion is just as pointless as chastising people for excluding women from the discussion.

Women are people and have had many special privileges in society because they were secluded from other parts of life. Gaining equality is a hard issue to address because everyone has a different definition of equality and whether a woman gets equal treatment will generally be more dependent on the relationships and positions she chooses to put herself in rather than being oppressed by some external force.

Now this does not mean that women are not being raped or that they are not being victimized or that bad things do not happen to people. Things that should not happen to women or men, for that matter, happen everyday and it has nothing to do with your gender it specifically with the desires of the perpetrator. They are doing something to satisfy themselves and you are unlucky enough to be their victim. This is a horrible thing and something that everyone tries to solve but the fact is that the people who do this kind of stuff dont care what other people think, they do it for themselves. I do not like the thought of women being abused or raped or mistreated and i also do not like the thought of men being abused or raped of mistreated.

Sorry for the rant and long typing but culture is evolving and everyone wants something different. Things will change for everyone regardless and I think it will depend more on culture and time than anything else.

Sounds profitable.

Did you realize that she's talking about other women? Plus there's a certain party that's trying their damn best to defult/get rid of planned parenthood. We're not misguided.

This is the most hysterical thing I've heard you say. Ever.

In terms of evolution and various species females are superior. Females have been able to produce asexually for quite some time in both the plant and animal kingdom via a process known as parthenogenesis.

We inferior humans simply require it.