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 Bismarck.Faelar
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-07-23 21:02:06
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Settle down guys, please.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-23 21:06:39
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just nuke it
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-07-23 21:08:01
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ITT: Level correction isn't a thing
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-07-23 21:08:20
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Also Flashy Shot doesn't exist
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-23 21:10:38
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
ITT: Level correction isn't a thing
probably not anymore in abyssea except orthrus/dragua level mobs
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2012-07-23 21:13:48
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Jesus Christ that was long. Spoiler'd now.
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By Asura.Zart 2012-07-23 21:14:08
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@Mizuharu
You are wrong, if you understood what Hide does you might understand what I was trying to accomplish with the job ability.

Players can actually use Hide to escape enemies currently that pursuing them however, Hide does not work on all monsters. It only works on monsters that detect by sight. A theory is, a player can actually have sneak casted on them and use Hide to escape enemies that detect by sound but, not by smell. All though in this case a player can get deodorized and hide to escape a monster that detects by smell.

So the job ability I had in mind would basically work on anything, and it would allow the player to walk pass monsters that normally see and attack you regardless.

I think a second version of Hide, or an improvement of Hide itself could be very useful. Players often forget they can use Hide in conjunction with sneak attack, to land sneak attacks from any direction, Not to mention SATA and the ability to escape from monsters.

Really I was just trying making a point.
Did I deserve to have this statement thrown at my face:

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It took you 211 days to read criticism about a dumb idea for a THF 2hr?

No, it does not take me 211 days to read an article.
No, It is not a dumb idea,
and even when something is dumb is often polite to say not smart, instead of dumb?
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By Asura.Zart 2012-07-23 21:16:08
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@Prothescar
well im at least willing to sit down and talk about it like a human.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-07-23 21:16:53
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
just nuke it
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Can we plz get this thread closed until there is more official information released, cuz right now its not living up to the purpleness.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-23 21:19:02
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Asura.Zart said: »
@Prothescar
well im at least willing to sit down and call people trolls, ignoring game mechanics and existing JAs

yup
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2012-07-23 21:20:20
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Asura.Zart said: »
@Mizuharu
You are wrong, if you understood what Hide does you might understand what I was trying to accomplish with the job ability.

Players can actually use Hide to escape enemies currently that pursuing them however, Hide does not work on all monsters. It only works on monsters that detect by sight. A theory is, a player can actually have sneak casted on them and use Hide to escape enemies that detect by sound but, not by smell. All though in this case a player can get deodorized and hide to escape a monster that detects by smell.

So the job ability I had in mind would basically work on anything, and it would allow the player to walk pass monsters that normally see and attack you regardless.

I think a second version of Hide, or an improvement of Hide itself could be very useful. Players often forget they can use Hide in conjunction with sneak attack, to land sneak attacks from any direction, Not to mention SATA and the ability to escape from monsters.

Really I was just trying making a point.
Did I deserve to have this statement thrown at my face:

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It took you 211 days to read criticism about a dumb idea for a THF 2hr?

No, it does not take me 211 days to read an article.
No, It is not a dumb idea,
and even when something is dumb is often polite to say not smart, instead of dumb?

Isn't Hide's "land sneak attack from any direction" on Bully... >.> Also, dumb is polite. See, if you say something someone did was "dumb", it means "they didn't know any better, but hopefully know what to do next time/not do this next time." Calling someone stupid is when "they knew better, but did it anyway."

And Hide as it is is fine. Not broken. Not over powered. Its fine. Wouldn't never use a Hide+1 ability as a 2hour ever. You have to keep in mind, these WILL share the recast timers with our current 2hr abilities. If I had to chose between dodging all physical attacks compared to a "ooo, I can deaggro this NM rather than dying because I forgot my reraisee and I don't know how to use flee to get to a safe spot to die at" 2hr.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2012-07-23 21:22:34
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
just nuke it

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By Asura.Zart 2012-07-23 21:32:55
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@Prothescar
I am sorry, excuse me. I meant to say something like, I don't think there is any job ability or piece of armor existing in the game with this effect however; Rearden proved me wrong. I stand corrected.

yes, there is currently weaponskills that ignore level correction.
flashy shot
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-07-23 21:33:48
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Stand tall bro
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-23 21:35:04
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apology accepted
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2012-07-23 22:15:06
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Anymore directed insults on the intelligence level of other players will result in a topicban. Please respect all purple topics in the future.
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By Asura.Zart 2012-07-23 22:55:47
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Just in response to Mizari's responce.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2012-07-23 22:58:04
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Lakshmi.Harkonnen said: »
The new RDM 2hr allow them to cast Cure V one time

I laughed wwaayyy more than i probably should have at this!
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By Bismarck.Chubakka 2012-07-23 23:36:39
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Lakshmi.Harkonnen said: »
The new RDM 2hr allow them to cast Cure V one time

that sounds extremely useless, I love it!
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By Bismarck.Altar 2012-07-23 23:48:42
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Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
Please respect all purple topics in the future.

They should respect it by not continuously bumping it and giving ppl false hope that there's actually useful new information on the OP.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2012-07-23 23:51:46
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Bismarck.Altar said: »
Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
Please respect all purple topics in the future.

They should respect it by not continuously bumping it and giving ppl false hope that there's actually useful new information on the OP.

Why are you telling me that?
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-07-24 00:35:36
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Aelius, you can lock it. I fear what will come of this thread overnight when no mods are around.

There is no information to be posted right now. As much as I would like to keep this topic open for people to be creative and brainstorm fun new ideas I don't think that is going to happen.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2012-07-24 00:41:33
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Aelius, you can lock it. I fear what will come of this thread overnight when no mods are around.

There is no information to be posted right now. As much as I would like to keep this topic open for people to be creative and brainstorm fun new ideas I don't think that is going to happen.

WHOA! Wait! waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaaaaaaait!!!!!



Okay, can lock it now.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2012-07-24 00:44:10
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Requested by OP

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