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 Siren.Gunshy
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By Siren.Gunshy 2011-11-04 13:49:10
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I wonder if any of the pet jobs will get the ability to call a second pet would be pretty sweet but i'm not sure they could even code that given how awkward it would be to control both of them
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By Phoenix.Degs 2011-11-04 13:50:32
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id like for pup, for the auto to go into a berserk type mode... for mages it would cast either defensive or offensive spells kinda like a chain spell type thing... until mana is depleted... and for the melle/rng frame it would be ws's back to back to back for the 1min.... or soemthing to that extent
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2011-11-04 13:53:49
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Knowing the limitations of Auto-AI I doubt the magic half of that would be great, Degs. They'd get out about 4-5 crap damage nukes (due to lack of Ice Maneuvers to activate Ice Maker) and then be out of mp. Back to back ws would be an interesting idea but unless they got a defensive boost like they do with Overdrive I would see Sharpshot getting maybe 3 ws off (granted I'm not complaining about 3 2k damage ws in under a min) before it got itself eaten due to having too much hate.
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By MissSteph 2011-11-04 13:55:13
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Arise for whm! No weakness upon raise.

That would be a nice one
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-11-04 13:57:21
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I think
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Giant pirate ship firing cannonballs! Giant pirate ship firing cannonballs!

Really they are turning COR into Ruby Heart from MvC2? lol
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-04 14:00:00
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MissSteph said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Arise for whm! No weakness upon raise.

That would be a nice one
Aren't we already getting that as a normal spell? >.>;
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By Phoenix.Cathaldus 2011-11-04 14:04:14
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
If it is two 2-Hours though, I think they will share the same timer.

Looks to me like they haven't decided. Depending on how powerful they make it will probably decide on if they're shared or not.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-11-04 14:05:47
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i still say sam's new 2hr should be Seppuku...
or a move that will haevy damage a mob, if it misses, the sam dies.

:x
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-04 14:07:36
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Bismarck.Misao said: »
i still say sam's new 2hr should be Seppuku...
or a move that will haevy damage a mob, if it misses, the sam dies.

:x
Sounds like drk >.>!
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-11-04 14:08:38
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dark would just kill itself ?
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By Asura.Ina 2011-11-04 14:09:11
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Giant pirate ship firing cannonballs! Giant pirate ship firing cannonballs!
Anyone else think of the pale gate rune from Suikoden 3 when reading this? XD

I could see smn getting an ability like bst's 2 hour that buffed their current pet after use.
Blm maybe the "MP Turbo" type ability from other FFs (spend more mp to increace damage)
Rng hundred fists but with ranged attacks

No guesses for other jobs.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-11-04 14:12:15
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Asura.Ina said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Giant pirate ship firing cannonballs! Giant pirate ship firing cannonballs!
Anyone else think of the pale gate rune from Suikoden 3 when reading this? XD
Gokai Galleon!
bombardment!
id like to see it too ._.

as for the sam move (just ignore the glitch on the game)
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By Asura.Ina 2011-11-04 14:12:20
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Bismarck.Misao said: »
i still say sam's new 2hr should be Seppuku...
or a move that will haevy damage a mob, if it misses, the sam dies.

:x
I would think if it missed the sam would live since seppuku involved cutting open ones abdomen :P Still an interesting concept, maybe like ninja's but instead of doing damage it gives your party members a large ammount of regain.
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By Siren.Gunshy 2011-11-04 14:26:58
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Brosams being support oriented.. would be interesting.
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By loluded 2011-11-04 14:27:58
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hmm I wonder what drk new 2hr will be like.. :o

maybe it'll be something like Darkness move? Or Charon lol... I dunno.
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By Siren.Gunshy 2011-11-04 14:34:02
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If it could be made strong enough Darkness would be pretty cool
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-04 14:37:51
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Camate already translated it, posting in a sec

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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-04 14:44:43
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“Merit Point Category 3” is intended to strengthen two-hour abilities and we are also working toward adding new two-hour abilities
Interesting
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2011-11-04 14:45:53
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I would think something like "Immense/Immeasurable Power" for DRk would be great, to double the damage of your ws's, but cut off skillchain potential. It would only last about 30-45 seconds, but dealing double the damage to keep drk up to speed would be worth it for zergs.
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By Inuyasha 2011-11-04 14:46:42
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Quote:
“Merit Point Category 3” is intended to strengthen two-hour abilities and we are also working toward adding new two-hour abilities
Interesting
lots interesting :0

when will they release details on enhancing the current merits!? I want moar possible skill/G1G2 merits :|
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By Siren.Gunshy 2011-11-04 14:50:20
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I can see the Group 3 merits being stuff like

Cor: Increase the likely hood of resetting 2hrs
Whm: Reduce the emnity gained from using benediction
War crit damage + during mighty strikes

maybe heh pretty cool though
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By Odin.Liela 2011-11-04 15:06:56
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In group situations, Perfect Dodge for thf seems sort of meh. If you are soloing and get into trouble, it's ok. Perhaps a Perfect Dodge adjustment could be that when a thf uses it, everyone in a certain radius gains it. So run up to other tanks/DDs and pop a perfect doge, and no one can take a melee hit for a little while.

Or they could give you the ability to 'dodge' magic as well, since there is such a thing as magic evasion. If they stacked both of those-- AoE Perfect Dodge and dodging both melee and magic, it would make your party/alli/whatever invincible for a few seconds. Could be useful! But maybe too powerful, it would annoy the plds. They like to be invincible without some puny thf helping them along. xD
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By Odin.Liela 2011-11-04 15:08:16
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And if a group 3 merit for dnc was to be able to cast a reraise waltz on a dead alli member, even if it had a gazillion minute recast, that would be kinda cool.

Double post, my bad!
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-11-04 15:19:06
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Another Idea for thf: Same as 5/5 aura steal, but steals all possible status effects at once.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-11-04 15:32:20
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Phoenix.Kirana said: »
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »
Anyone want to theorycraft on what they'd like to see as a new 2hr ability for jobs?


WAR - Increased critical hit damage for some duration.
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it's called blood rage :o. I'd prefer a 100% double attack chance during the effects of mighty strikes.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2011-11-04 15:46:11
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My impression would be that the new abilities would not be enhancements to the current ones, but rather altermatives suited for different situations.

I think, mostly, that the old 2-hours were saved for "OH SHI-" moments. Just look at Perfect Dodge, Trance, Invincible, Chainspell, and Benediction. We don't really see them used too much anymore, generally, because nothing is really THAT important to win the first time anymore. With Abyssea, you can just get up and try again with a minor time delay, maybe a loss of KIs if you wipe, and some exp deduction. It was much different back in the day with storyline fights and battlefields, where much more rode on our success (FRICKIN ACP FINAL BOSS).

The new 2-hours would probably be more enhancement based, or related to damage boosts as opposed to emergency ones like before.
 
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-04 16:01:57
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Sch really doesn't need another 2hour lol. They adjusted ours now so that its perfect. Unless they open up both addendum similar to enlightenment, but with no penalties, maybe? idk...seems like kind of a waste, since I barely use enlightenment anyways.

As far as blu goes. I would think just a massive dmg boost to spells during the duration of the new 2hour. Azure Lore's changes with spell self SCs made it pretty nice, when before it was rather useless.

Sam, idk. I liked the Cosmic Elud w/e idea...thats kinda neat, but 30s is too short for that I think.

Pup, I like the berserk mode idea. WS chaining on the puppet would be fun. And in the mage berserk mode, make the spells cost less (not 0, but just reduced).

Cor new 2 hour... an extra roll effect and double potency. That's really gotta be it. Cor's screamed they weren't a buffer like brd, well there ya go... SV for rolls lol. I personally like DD cor's who know how to buff, over cors that just buff and nothing else. I don't think cor is quite like rng in terms of shooting (except in the case of fire shot with WF), but they do well. And I think their buffs should never have been similar to bard in the first place. They get some nice, unique buffs. That's what makes cor, cor.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Zubis 2011-11-05 05:19:33
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SMN: Astral Burst.
Effect: Reduces Blood Pact ability delay to 0. A SMN's Manafont, as it were.
Duration: 1 minute.

PLD: Unyielding Strikes.
Effect: Focuses target's emnity directly towards user. Every action performed when the ability is active generates maximum emnity.
Duration: 1 minute.

A guy can dream, can't he?
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