November 2018 Version Update

Bro, it was a bug they fixed - people were saying it was a bug - yeah it blows - I was having a ton of fun with run, nin and mnk. I am kinda pissed too but this doesn't change much for me, but yes it hurts a lot... Since I love mnk a ton...


You seem'ed like the last couple months you were having a great time. Posting about your linkshells exploits and actually getting stuff done. I consider you a great guy. I enjoy reading your posts, so don't take this the hard way. But I mean it very dearly....

Just chill out and take a break bro. If you're not having fun, don't torture yourself.(At least you have a choice in the matter right now)

+1 for taking a break.

It really puts things in perspective when you take a break.

Overly stressed out over it, just pushing more and more doesn't help.

I think we're going to end up w/ acc/macc+40~50.. and mab+30~50. Acc/Macc because new characters are always going to struggle with not-missing. And what weapon niche hasn't been filled already for new characters? Magic WS. :| I just don't see most of these being super special/unique or worthwhile for most established players/jobs.

... I'm bummed because BST (and probably PUP) are going to get screwed w/ no pet stats since they are generic weapons. Bonus kick to the nuts since the axe is the same model/skin as Charmer's Merlin. orz

It doesn't make sense though. All the +2 sets are at least "good" all the rings are at least "usable"(tali'ah ring sucks) all the capes are "*** bananas" and then to have complete failure weapons?

Very weird.

They just refuse to learn from past mistakes, this ladder progression ***doesn't work when you try to add new rungs to the middle. It is simply too easy to get reisen weapons (and to be honest, too easy to get REM weapons)

The thing is this isn’t a middle weapon. These weapons have no redeeming qualities outside of the fact that some jobs can use them that are hard to find 119 weapons for(polearm on SAM for example).

That being said expectations were low for these weapons from the comments I read before last nights update. I don’t see a reason to let this bother anyone.

Thats the thing though, if you start a brand new account today, a homestead weapon is pretty close to these. They serve literally no purpose even as the bottom weapon. Higher base damage, higher delay, lower skill.

yeah they're going to be +2 and +3 and +10 but no point in them being that bad to start.

If Im starting out today, I'm not going to get a homestead katana, grind a thousand very easy ambu for ajja katana. I'm gonna get cap sparks and get a kanaria.

Do we know if the weapons have hidden effects in ambu?

3rd stage will probably be skill+242, and enough acc/macc/racc to make an actual difference for a fresh character. I AM a bit intrigued about certain ones if they were to turn out similar to what I predicted. It could be nice occasionally to have a macc stat stick in ranged slot for the jobs that can equip the bow for instance, and it actually sounds attractive if there's a good chunk of mab on it. Same goes for 1h weapons since they could be offhanded.

Well if SE lets people put Ambuscade like augments on them they would be useful for returning players or as a niche weapon. Store TP +10 Acc/Atk +20, that type of stuff.

For people so emo about this update: a glass 1/2 full way to look at it is they might be preparing easy, streamlined ways for returning people to get caught up in preparation for the xpac/addons they might announce at the Fan Event on December 2nd!

This is why you can't get emotionally invested in pixels, and numbers on a screen.

the worse thing about the weapons from ambuscade is that if your a smart new person you will realize just skip it get your jp and buy a better weapon off the AH wont take you long to get su2 +

Looking at the ambuscade weapons ... obviously they're not, like, Escha tier, sure. Nibiru and up is better. Ajja is better than Homestead in almost every slot, though, claiming they're inherently worse just because of a little less skill is ludicrous, especially when they've got better damage/delay values and +20 acc/macc on everything to make up the gap.

But they're also not final weapons. NQ and +1 Ambuscade armor isn't really worth using at all on a maturing character, rapidly outpaced by even entry level Escha stuff, but it's quickly attainable and damn good for how easy it is to acquire. But +2 Ambuscade gear is BiS in a lot of sets for a lot of jobs, comparing favorably to HQ abjuration and augmented Reisenjima stuff. The final weapons probably won't be REMA quality, but I wouldn't be surprised if a capped out Ambuscade weapon, when all is said and done, is at least as good as what falls out of T2 Reisenjima mobs.

And speaking of. Kanaria comes from a Reisenjima T2. If you're starting out today, that's a long long way away. Be realistic.

You can be in reisenjima on the 4th day. There is no "long way away" you just do the wing > neck > ooze cycle with 2 stacks of each(4 wings), burn 20 imps and you're good to go.

Ambuscade is NOT for people starting out. They're too cowardly to start parties and join easy shouts. They solo VE and E V2 for weeks. And that still won't get them "new starter weapons". Calling ambuscade "Starter" is like saying solitaire is a hell of a party game.

A shout that puts so little thought into gearing requirements is probably one that no one should have any interest in joining.

Whats this cycle youre refering to?

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/It_Sets_My_Heart_Aflutter

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/A_Good_Pair_of_Crocs

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/A_Shot_in_the_Dark

Repeat ~24 times and you'll be like rank 7 fame (enough to get through Rhapsodies with minimal time spent) Takes about an hour, 2&3 are right next to each other, warp to 1, warp back to 2&3.


-anything- is better than soloing. If ambuscade is supposed to be "Starter" then easy shouts should have zero requirements in their shouts. (be better than 117)*

Very doubtful. Actual hidden effects are pretty rare to begin with and the last time I can remember them doing much with that was way back when they introduced lyft weapons which iirc was mid/late WoTg period

can you provide some proof or logic to it?

I don't see how WSD is affecting WS that weren't before.

No. *smacks nose with rolled up newspaper*

The game has a really nice mix of usable non REMA weapons for entry or mid-level progression. Between Zitah and and RuAnn T2, UNM, and a few random skirmish/alluvion skirmish/delve weapons. It would be sad if these weapons trump all of those. There are plenty of reason already for players to partake and max out Ambuscade monthly. That content can be done in small groups and is pretty fun if you are not already over geared for it. I hope they don't take that content away.

... It's very simple. They fixed a bug where standard WSD was affecting all hits of WS that it wasn't 6mon ago.

Now:
Standard WSD only affects 1st hit (officially now.)
Specific Weapon Skill WSD affects all hits of their respective WS.

If you want proof about how it works now, go read the patch notes. It states it right there.

The worst part of the weapons is actually that BLU isn't on the club! Wouldn't be very useful either way but it's just sad that BLU is still getting dicked on new gear.

Nvm blu is on the club carry on

You would think WS damge was WS damage and SE wouldn't make then unneeded complicated by reusing name for the different stuff and make exceptions on everything.

and yes they still haven;t fixed the wording on fortia belt/neck

Wut

He basically agree'd with this

Oh yeah can see it now that it's been cleaned up/edited.