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What is "Elitism"?
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Dunno what you talking about but i play since 2003.
geigei said: » Dunno what you talking about but i play since 2003. Offline
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Well asura is contagious so presuming ***is normal i guess, dont worry, i like "special" people.
geigei said: » Well asura is contagious so presuming ***is normal i guess, dont worry, i like "special" people. Guess the rest of the servers didn't mandate vaccinations prior like we did. Flippant, smartass answer: elitism is too elite to define.
Real answer: I tend to agree with some of the previous posters' definition of elitism, both the positive and the negative. Striving to excel is something that should be encouraged, even if a person's definition of excellence is somewhat different from the accepted norm. The toxic kind of elitism is evidenced by certain players on the Asura server- those who demand REMA for E Ambuscade and who belittle others for possessing fewer than, say, ten REMA. Now, not every player is prepared for all content. There's a progression that should be loosely followed; shortcuts such as paying a merc exist, but don't give experience that teaches a player how to best clear content. Disclosure- yeah, I merc. It's a valid way to earn gil, and as long as you aren't price-gouging your clients it's acceptable in my eyes. Maybe it isn't for you;if it isn't, then don't do it. I do things for free a lot of the time also, but when a person shouts to purchase gear or content, they have a reason for doing so. That's their business, not the collective antimerc white knight community,so please don't interfere. Thanks in advance. The lack of experience with content has nothing to do with elitism in its truest sense, though- inexperience is just that, and guess what? I wasn't born knowing how to clear content and neither were you, so do people a favor and don't be a *** about lack of knowledge. Ignorance is not knowing, while stupidity is the refusal to learn. One is excusable and the other is not. Edits- autocorrect is not elite Fenrir.Cherrywine
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Asura.Darian said: » I am alpha and omega. I am elitism. Now that there are three, maybe four, and possibly more threads dealing with this topic, I think it would do us all some good to consolidate the information into one place. On behalf of the community, I beseech thee to make an Elite Job Guide. Asura.Darian
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Fenrir.Cherrywine said: » Asura.Darian said: » I am alpha and omega. I am elitism. Now that there are three, maybe four, and possibly more threads dealing with this topic, I think it would do us all some good to consolidate the information into one place. On behalf of the community, I beseech thee to make an Elite Job Guide. I tried that but it was removed. Anna obviously has s personal vendetta against me. Or maybe just mad about my Vit 9 WSD 10 Skillchsin dmg 11 odyssean gauntlets but it's not really her it's just my eliteness. If you have to use bots rather than rely on skill, you aren't elite. JS.
Anna Ruthven said: » If you have to use bots rather than rely on skill, you aren't elite. JS. Would argue that if you're smart enough to rely on said bots, you're more elite. Got better ***to do than trivial task that bot is completing. Need vs Want Asura.Eiryl said: » Got better ***to do than trivial task that bot is completing. Anna Ruthven said: » If you have to use bots rather than rely on skill, you aren't elite. JS. Automation in FFXI is it's own level of "elite". Getting all that ***to work together so you can have the reward without playing is uber. "I'm so elite I don't play the game". Ever see an elite football player get a touchdown with a catapult?
Anna Ruthven said: » Ever see an elite football player get a touchdown with a catapult? They get touchdowns while sitting at home watching the game on TV. That's super elite. Offline
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Anna Ruthven said: » Ever see an elite handball player get a touchdown with a catapult? Asura.Darian said: » Fenrir.Cherrywine said: » Asura.Darian said: » I am alpha and omega. I am elitism. Now that there are three, maybe four, and possibly more threads dealing with this topic, I think it would do us all some good to consolidate the information into one place. On behalf of the community, I beseech thee to make an Elite Job Guide. I tried that but it was removed. Anna obviously has s personal vendetta against me. Or maybe just mad about my Vit 9 WSD 10 Skillchsin dmg 11 odyssean gauntlets but it's not really her it's just my eliteness. Lakshmi.Buukki
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Darian's son is as elite as they come. Any man who can tolerate being in the same breathing space as that guy is a superhuman specimen in my book. And to think, he's only 13. Early nomination for Presidential office of 2042 goes to that kid right there.
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clearlyamule said: » I would love to if I have a Nirvana, yagrush, idris, epeo. And play 4-6 top end jobs instead of just lolcor4life. Us lazy casuals cant carry people. Fenrir.Cherrywine
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Asura.Darian said: » Fenrir.Cherrywine said: » Asura.Darian said: » I am alpha and omega. I am elitism. Now that there are three, maybe four, and possibly more threads dealing with this topic, I think it would do us all some good to consolidate the information into one place. On behalf of the community, I beseech thee to make an Elite Job Guide. I tried that but it was removed. I think that was far too technical of an attempt. I mean, it looked like the beginnings of a Webster's of FFXI or a wiki in a thread... I can't see that working. No, no, I was expecting something more like a totally blank page with a disclaimer in the bottom, "This is the Elite Job Guide. A secret decoder pendant is required to unlock the secrets within. Contact X with a prepayment of Y for entry into a raffle for a pendant. Many will play, few will win. Are you worthy?" Fenrir.Cherrywine
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Anna Ruthven said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » Got better ***to do than trivial task that bot is completing. Let's not confuse efficiency and automation with playing skill. Skill at code =/= skill at playing the game directly. Skill at code = knowledge of the game, which can help one play at a higher level. But if you hand your performance over to automation, you may deserve credit for the automation (if you made it yourself) but likely can't debate the skill involved in playing the game itself. The manufacturer of a baseball or baseball bat can't claim credit for players' performances. The players will surely only use quality equipment. The owners will do their best to make a great team of players. But the players playing get credit for winning a game. clearlyamule said: » Carry me senpai Fenrir.Cherrywine
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I find it quite ironic that 75% of the first four people to post on this have a history of elitism
Lets do process of elimination through "fun with clues" One used a quote from biblical text that has been regurgitating in various forms of nerd art. One is a former resident of Shiva that at one point ranted about people buying Relic currency who "Didn't deserve a relic and needed to leave the currency to those who did" And another spends half their life posting mildly amusing rants, trolling quips, and actually tries to play themselves off as an entertaining individual of merit. And for those who will Beseige this comment here's a /tell /emo harkening back to those Beseiged days: /yawn. Afania said: » clearlyamule said: » I'd say that elistist don't actually have to be elite themselves. There are plenty of people who apply that standard to others but don't know ***about the game though they might think they do Real elites carry people. Smns are the real elites these days Semper conduit Lakshmi.Buukki
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Shiva.Phioness said: » I find it quite ironic that 75% of the first four people to post on this have a history of elitism *goes back and counts the first 4 posts* NOT ME Asura.Darian said: » Fenrir.Cherrywine said: » Asura.Darian said: » I am alpha and omega. I am elitism. Now that there are three, maybe four, and possibly more threads dealing with this topic, I think it would do us all some good to consolidate the information into one place. On behalf of the community, I beseech thee to make an Elite Job Guide. I tried that but it was removed. Anna obviously has s personal vendetta against me. Or maybe just mad about my Vit 9 WSD 10 Skillchsin dmg 11 odyssean gauntlets but it's not really her it's just my eliteness. Your post was removed likely because of your condescending tone when it comes to these forums. If you were all about helping others, nobody would bat an eye. But since you try way too hard to appear superior to others (in a 15+ year old video game, mind you), most people can see through your *** sarcasm and they'll call you out for it. It's not personal. Just not needed. |
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