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FINAL FANTASY XI Version Update (Oct. 22)
 Cerberus.Pleebo
Server: Cerberus
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2012-10-22 18:06:54
If the gil issue isn't dealt with, there won't be anything left to handle. It affects you in everything you do. From gauging the feasibility of a goal, to time/effort ratios, to your peers, to your purchasing power. Unless you're intentionally existing outside of the FFXI economy, you'd be hard-pressed to find an instance where it doesn't affect you.
I understand all of that and I still can't say I feel the effects of it, but maybe that's because I do Dynamis for gil and it's still more than I've ever made in FFXI in my years of playing. I mainly farmed dynamis for gil as well (blinkering was too annoying to me) but I'm pretty sure my customers were buying with gil obtained from cruor conversion. Expect currency prices to start going wonky pretty soon as well as increased dynamis competition from people being forced to farm their own currency.
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 Ragnarok.Slyshen
Server: Ragnarok
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Posts: 917
By Ragnarok.Slyshen 2012-10-22 18:08:20
VW and Dynamis are going to be EXTREMELY crowded for a while, prices of all VW and Dynamis currencies will DROP. Give it time and just see for yourself. You take away their Cruor, they will find other means. That leaves Dynamis and VW. Wanna make money, get there first!
Diabolos.Zerich
Server: Diabolos
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1
By Diabolos.Zerich 2012-10-22 18:08:47
What legit players botted cruor?
VW much?
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 Cerberus.Valmur
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2012-10-22 18:11:24
Ragnarok.Slyshen
Server: Ragnarok
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Posts: 917
By Ragnarok.Slyshen 2012-10-22 18:12:49
What legit players botted cruor?
VW much?
Legit players wouldn't use bots, but a good amount of the people complaining about this update, most likely did. I'll put my money on it. They lost their way of easy gil. They liked Going to sleep and obtaining cruor while they slept through FC parties only to chocoblink it the next day. You can even find all the programs on Windower website, not that hard. Guy above said it wouldn't take but an hour to make a bot with said functions.
Fenrir.Sylow
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6862
By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-10-22 18:14:42
What if you bought the ebisu items with money you farmed in dynamis? :P Who fishes their own ebisu items!
Ragnarok.Slyshen
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 917
By Ragnarok.Slyshen 2012-10-22 18:17:02
What if you bought the ebisu items with money you farmed in dynamis? :P Who fishes their own ebisu items!
If these people did Dynamis they wouldn't be bitching about the update, they would conitnue to do dynamis and most likely carry-on like most other normal players.
Fenrir.Sylow
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6862
By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-10-22 18:17:49
Where do you think the money that people are buying dynamis currency with is coming from?
Fenrir.Elliott
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 67
By Fenrir.Elliott 2012-10-22 18:18:20
If the gil issue isn't dealt with, there won't be anything left to handle. It affects you in everything you do. From gauging the feasibility of a goal, to time/effort ratios, to your peers, to your purchasing power. Unless you're intentionally existing outside of the FFXI economy, you'd be hard-pressed to find an instance where it doesn't affect you.
I understand all of that and I still can't say I feel the effects of it, but maybe that's because I do Dynamis for gil and it's still more than I've ever made in FFXI in my years of playing. I mainly farmed dynamis for gil as well (blinkering was too annoying to me) but I'm pretty sure my customers were buying with gil obtained from cruor conversion. Expect currency prices to start going wonky pretty soon as well as increased dynamis competition from people being forced to farm their own currency.
That's exactly what I don't want to happen! Oh well, we'll see.
Cerberus.Taint
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1514
By Cerberus.Taint 2012-10-22 18:18:39
Where do you think the money that people are buying dynamis currency with is coming from?
Cruor if they are smart, fishing if they are dumb.
By Kimble2013 2012-10-22 18:18:56
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »This update comes right before that Embrava/PD patch that will affect some groups. New guy is starting his tenure trying to undo Tanakas shitpile by utilizing Tanaka-style nerfs coupled with promises that "everything will sort itself out".
Not exactly the best PR campaign.
Maybe, just maybe, Tanaka wasn't the problem like everyone likes to believe.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-10-22 18:19:18
Dynamis can't handle much people without the zone going to ***. Pass 20 or so people and the zone becomes overcrowded, everyone gets ***, limited access per day, omg BSTs everywhar.
Salvage requires 3 ppl, Voidwatch runs will plummet, fire will rain from the sky etc etc etc.
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Cerberus.Toralin
Server: Cerberus
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Posts: 58
By Cerberus.Toralin 2012-10-22 18:20:21
Where do you think the money that people are buying dynamis currency with is coming from?
Cruor if they are smart, fishing if they are dumb.
This is accurate even though Taint photoshops his Ragnarok damage I will agree with him on this
Fenrir.Sylow
Server: Fenrir
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Posts: 6862
By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-10-22 18:20:50
Where do you think the money that people are buying dynamis currency with is coming from? Cruor if they are smart, fishing if they are dumb.
And this is why people are bitching.
Everyone's income just took a major hit.
Server: Lakshmi
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-10-22 18:21:10
Maybe, just maybe, Tanaka wasn't the problem like everyone likes to believe.
Not willing to go so far yet as the new guy seems to be undoing Tanakas dumbfuckery but the problem comes down to limited staff which prioritizes bug fixes/nerfs over content amidst a new expansion in the works.
I see what this new dude wants but the way hes going about it is going to leave the game in misery between the fixes and the compensation for the fixes.
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Bahamut.Camaroz
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By Bahamut.Camaroz 2012-10-22 18:21:15
What if you bought the ebisu items with money you farmed in dynamis? :P Who fishes their own ebisu items!
If these people did Dynamis they wouldn't be bitching about the update, they would conitnue to do dynamis and most likely carry-on like most other normal players.
Nobody bitching but you. Seriously gtfo with this holier then thou ***. I mean ive seen some butthurt in my life but ***....
Ragnarok.Slyshen
Server: Ragnarok
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Posts: 917
By Ragnarok.Slyshen 2012-10-22 18:22:02
Voidwatch will not plummet. Maybe in price.. but it will not plummet.
Phoenix.Valory
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 153
By Phoenix.Valory 2012-10-22 18:23:00
Voidwatch will not plummet. Maybe in price.. but it will not plummet.
Riftdross/cinder would like to have a word with you.
Cerberus.Toralin
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 58
By Cerberus.Toralin 2012-10-22 18:23:18
It isn't that people don't want to do Dynamis.
Its the fact there is not a bot out that will do Dynamis while they sleep and repeat every 24 hours.
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Fenrir.Sylow
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6862
By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-10-22 18:23:23
Did you think people were still doing VW en masse for drops?
By Kimble2013 2012-10-22 18:24:21
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Maybe, just maybe, Tanaka wasn't the problem like everyone likes to believe.
Not willing to go so far yet as the new guy seems to be undoing Tanakas dumbfuckery but the problem comes down to limited staff which prioritizes bug fixes/nerfs over content amidst a new expansion in the works.
I see what this new dude wants but the way hes going about it is going to leave the game in misery between the fixes and the compensation for the fixes.
I havent even heard anything about the expansion since the Vana fest. Seems they really dropped the ball on building hype up for it. Granted its still a few months away but still, could release a little info every few weeks.
Server: Lakshmi
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By Lakshmi.Inspectorgadget 2012-10-22 18:24:37
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said: »Yea, not to mention it takes like 20 hours to get that many Haks, lol
another thing to consider is the fact that an Ebisu takes minimum 2 1/2 months for a character to get from 0 to 78 fishing and farm up the GP necessary to do the quest and the millions of gil it costs in Liks and Gugs, compared to the ~2 hours it takes to get a new character from 1 to 30 so they can enter Abyssea. it's not even a fair comparison.
Ragnarok.Slyshen
Server: Ragnarok
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Posts: 917
By Ragnarok.Slyshen 2012-10-22 18:25:28
What if you bought the ebisu items with money you farmed in dynamis? :P Who fishes their own ebisu items!
If these people did Dynamis they wouldn't be bitching about the update, they would conitnue to do dynamis and most likely carry-on like most other normal players.
Nobody bitching but you. Seriously gtfo with this holier then thou ***. I mean ive seen some butthurt in my life but ***....
Umm.. a big deal of this forum is bitching, I'm not butt hurt one bit at all. I can make millions sitting in jeuno while I browse these forums. I don't need to chocoblink & Please quote where I "bitched?" I am completely un-affected by this update. :) I bet you have seen some butt-hurt, looking in the mirror at your *** huh?
Quote: At the following time, a version update was performed on FINAL FANTASY XI.
[Date & Time]
Oct. 22, 2012 at 11:30 (PDT)
[Affected Service]
- FINAL FANTASY XI
[Update Details]
[System]
- The prices when selling the following items to NPCs have changed:
Stamina Apple / Spore Bomb / Chocobo Taping / -->Chocobo Blnk<-- / Shadow Roll / Chocobo Hood / Grauberg Greens / Sharug Greens / Azouph Greens
- The following items can no longer be sold to NPCs:
Perle Solerets / Aurore Gaiters / Teal Pigaches / Perle Salade / Aurore Beret / Teal Chapeau / Perle Moufles / Aurore Gloves / Teal Cuffs / Perle Hauberk / Aurore Doublet / Teal Saio / Perle Brayettes / Aurore Brais / Teal Slops
[Issues Addressed]
The following issues have been fixed:
- The issue below has been fixed in Meeble Burrows:
An issue wherein players were immediately kicked out if every player in the party logged out and logged back in within 3 minutes whilst in the burrows.
An issue wherein the stock number of key items, “Moblin pheromone sack” was sometimes incorrect in certain situations when talking to the NPC ‘Burrow Investigator’ in Upper Jeuno (I-8)
An issue wherein a confirmation window would be displayed when talking to the NPC ‘Vrednev’ in Sauromugue Champaign(J-7) when the party consisted of fewer than 3 members.
- In the quest ‘Shattering Stars ’ and corresponding quests:
An issue wherein it was only possible to challenge BF once with ‘xx’s testimony’
*A bug has been confirmed when challenging BF where a message saying ‘xx’s testimony has been annulled!’ is displayed. The message has been fixed and BF can now be challenged up to 3 times.
In addition, ‘xx’s testimony’ is also returned to the PC whenever it’s possible to challenge BF again.
- During Besieged: an issue wherein when the player was KO’d and the battle ended but did not receive XP after being revived. 
impending shitstorm in 3.... 2..... 1
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