The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

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By Sylph.Oraen 2019-01-08 18:42:52
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Next stage will almost certainly kill Nibiru after all these years.

I haven't actually made the clubs yet, so I can't test myself. If anybody can check the differences between the two, please share results.
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By Odin.Slore 2019-01-09 11:26:00
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Never done a ws trial weapon before. Does it have to be mainhanded for trial?
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By Takisan 2019-01-09 11:31:12
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SimonSes said: »
Why is none mentioning using Thibron as offhand for R15 Tizona? Whenever accuracy is not an issue, this combo is by far superior to anything else for BLU (maybe outside of situation where you take advantage of skillchain with cdc).

Thank you for sharing this! If blu can make this offhand work, it could open up a world of new stuff!
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By SimonSes 2019-01-09 12:00:52
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Takisan said: »
SimonSes said: »
Why is none mentioning using Thibron as offhand for R15 Tizona? Whenever accuracy is not an issue, this combo is by far superior to anything else for BLU (maybe outside of situation where you take advantage of skillchain with cdc).

Thank you for sharing this! If blu can make this offhand work, it could open up a world of new stuff!

Since this post, it was tested by me and probably many others and I can confirm its very viable and wins for pure damage on blu by far.
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By Taint 2019-01-09 12:19:20
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SimonSes said: »
Takisan said: »
SimonSes said: »
Why is none mentioning using Thibron as offhand for R15 Tizona? Whenever accuracy is not an issue, this combo is by far superior to anything else for BLU (maybe outside of situation where you take advantage of skillchain with cdc).

Thank you for sharing this! If blu can make this offhand work, it could open up a world of new stuff!

Since this post, it was tested by me and probably many others and I can confirm its very viable and wins for pure damage on blu by far.


Just playing around on low lvl content its crazy potent.
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By Takisan 2019-01-10 12:30:14
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Just made a Machaera +2 with the 1k tp bonus effect. So far given that my attack ratio is good (~3k attack: frailty/fury, chaos roll, beserk, nature's meditation) @1500 tp it performs like my Tizona/Almace combo at 2500~3k tp. 40~46k expaicions on apex bats and pugils. Just a ~15 min observation though not a large sample size. In ws set I have STR:98+269, DEX:106+194, INT:94+130. Went all out in blu spells to boost str bascially.

Pretty cool so far!
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By Cerberus.Kaht 2019-01-10 13:18:12
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Cerberus.Kaht said: »
So, is there a new accepted best spell list for Tizona/Thibron?

Bump, since the question seems to have been lost in the replies. Saw someone mention setting an additional tier of DW to not overcap when using reiki belt.
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By SimonSes 2019-01-10 14:07:11
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Cerberus.Kaht said: »
Cerberus.Kaht said: »
So, is there a new accepted best spell list for Tizona/Thibron?

Bump, since the question seems to have been lost in the replies. Saw someone mention setting an additional tier of DW to not overcap when using reiki belt.

If you are going for almost only pure damage without much utility:

DW:
Delta
Barbed

TA:
Trashing
Empty
Heavy

Attack:
Searing Tempest

Accuracy:
Anvil
Nat. Meditation
Frenetic
Vanity

Store TP:
Sickle
Tail
Fantod
Lugne
Diffusion

Utility:
Magic fruit
Erratic
Occultation

2 slots and 6 points left, so you cna set:
a) Subduction
b) Cocoon, Barrier Tusk
c) White Wind, Cocoon
d) ???
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By Odin.Slore 2019-01-10 14:36:23
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Where did everyone go for the demon trials? Tried range but they die before I can even ws even with junk sword mainhand. BG lists range as highest demons level wise.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-01-10 14:41:23
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Firstly you take off ilvl gear, Just have capped haste.

Then optimally you probably do abyssea with 3 regain atmas A_vunk has a nice selection.
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By Asura.Darkkaze 2019-01-10 15:39:49
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SimonSes said: »
Cerberus.Kaht said: »
Cerberus.Kaht said: »
So, is there a new accepted best spell list for Tizona/Thibron?

Bump, since the question seems to have been lost in the replies. Saw someone mention setting an additional tier of DW to not overcap when using reiki belt.

If you are going for almost only pure damage without much utility:

DW:
Delta
Barbed

TA:
Trashing
Empty
Heavy

Attack:
Searing Tempest

Accuracy:
Anvil
Nat. Meditation
Frenetic
Vanity

Store TP:
Sickle
Tail
Fantod
Lugne
Diffusion

Utility:
Magic fruit
Erratic
Occultation

2 slots and 6 points left, so you cna set:
a) Subduction
b) Cocoon, Barrier Tusk
c) White Wind, Cocoon
d) ???

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't you want Molting Plumage to get 1 more tier of DW? Then you'd be a hair under cap with Adhemar+1 body (iirc). I was under the impression this was better over 1 more tier of accuracy bonus and allowed for more multi att gear.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-01-10 15:41:26
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You "want" more acc specifically because of the offhand. Whether or not it's the "optimal" setup, idk.
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By Asura.Darkkaze 2019-01-10 15:45:39
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
You "want" more acc specifically because of the offhand. Whether or not it's the "optimal" setup, idk.

Ya I was just about to edit...didn't pay attention to sub wep
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By Taint 2019-01-10 16:03:36
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Odin.Slore said: »
Where did everyone go for the demon trials? Tried range but they die before I can even ws even with junk sword mainhand. BG lists range as highest demons level wise.


I did Taurus in abysses vunkerl south of conflex4.
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By Boshi 2019-01-10 16:39:56
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Attack Bonus:

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By SimonSes 2019-01-10 18:45:51
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You ar eright Boshi, I was looking at ST +8 STR too, but I guess Embalmin has +6, so not much worse.

So 2 slots and 8 points, so what else we can get theere beside the options I listed?
e) Tenebral Crush (good nuke + macc trait + def down)
f) Barrier Tusk + White Wind (DT and group heal)
g) Barrier Tusk + Dart (HP trait)
h) Barrier Tusk + Winds of Promyvion (DT and erasega)
i) ???

Can probably also replace magic fruit with white wind and do more combos, but I guess everyone can figure out what else he want :P
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By Odin.Slore 2019-01-10 19:36:35
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I'm using guide on main page for expiacion and the spellset listed above and I am getting nowhere near these numbers on apex bats. Hitting around 17k. Is the main ws guide still accurate? Machaera +2, 47wsd, str 106+143, int99+115, dex95+180. I lack +2 neck and the trove ws ring.
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By Taint 2019-01-10 19:39:24
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Odin.Slore said: »
I'm using guide on main page for expiacion and the spellset listed above and I am getting nowhere near these numbers on apex bats. Hitting around 17k. Is the main ws guide still accurate? Machaera +2, 47wsd, str 106+143, int99+115, dex95+180. I lack +2 neck and the trove ws ring.

Sounds like a Pdif problem. What were your buffs and debuffs?
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By Odin.Slore 2019-01-10 19:56:42
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2041 attack, standard debuffs I only have a brd for testing
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By Ramuh.Austar 2019-01-10 19:59:07
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nowhere near capping ratio then.
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By Odin.Slore 2019-01-10 20:08:29
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2809 with a COR. hit a few 33k
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By Odin.Slore 2019-01-10 20:53:14
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Got it to 33k-36k. I'll work on missing gear and better augs. Right now my savage blade wins out.
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By Boshi 2019-01-11 06:17:25
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SimonSes said: »
You ar eright Boshi, I was looking at ST +8 STR too, but I guess Embalmin has +6, so not much worse.

So 2 slots and 8 points, so what else we can get theere beside the options I listed?
e) Tenebral Crush (good nuke + macc trait + def down)
f) Barrier Tusk + White Wind (DT and group heal)
g) Barrier Tusk + Dart (HP trait)
h) Barrier Tusk + Winds of Promyvion (DT and erasega)
i) ???

Can probably also replace magic fruit with white wind and do more combos, but I guess everyone can figure out what else he want :P

-I always like to carry barrier tusk.

-If i have 1 single point left i judt toss regurgitation for int1mnd1


Edit: I looked at your list and figured out what was missing from a dps setup:
sinker drill - critDmg+11% (I guess white dmg isn't -as- important with nonilvl offhand and no cdc)
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By Amunaptra 2019-01-11 08:05:09
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Returning player...isn't "Sinker Drill" (Crit Bonus) a thing we use anymore?

EDIT: saw Boshi edit
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By SimonSes 2019-01-11 08:24:03
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Sinker drill was dropped intentionally. I found other thing more useful for Expiacion focused build. That being said I use hybrid build 95% of the time because I don't need that extra accuracy for Thibron for most stuff I do.

My usuall build is
DW:
Delta
Barbed

TA:
Empty
Trashing
Heavy

Accuracy:
Net. Meditation

Store TP:
Sickle
Tail
Fantod
Lunge
Diffusion

Crit attack bonus:
Sinker Drill

Mab:
Subduction
Dream Flower

Macc:
Tenebral

FC:
Erratic

Other:
Magic Fruit
Barrier tusk
Cocoon
Occultation

Thats exaclty 80/80 and 20/20

and I drop 2 spells from store TP if I need things like:
Anvil (for magic damage)

and I would also drop Cocoon and Dream Flower for Rail Cannon and Paralyzing Triad if I would set up for something like 4 step double light with Rail Cannon magic burst, or Darkness skillchain with Tenebral MB
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By Numquam 2019-01-11 09:18:23
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Why do you have subduction in there?
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By Taint 2019-01-11 09:19:28
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Numquam said: »
Why do you have subduction in there?

Its awesome....also instant AoE with heavy effect
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By SimonSes 2019-01-11 10:35:53
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Numquam said: »
Why do you have subduction in there?

One of the best spells for overall use like AoE killing trash in einherjar, salvage, nyzul, delve, vagary etc. (it has very small recast, its ready to sue when you finish casting if you ahve enough haste and is very cheap) and like Taint said, it has gravity effect and that gravity is VERY potent (highest in game?). Mobs look like they are doing moonwalk when you hit them with it. It also activates MAB trait on its own, so if I take away Dream flower to set something I mentioned above, I still keep MAB trait with just Subduction.
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By Valefor.Yandaime 2019-01-11 10:56:28
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I agree. Unless I'm doing a focused event, Subduction is pretty much always there lol. Love my little ***-blaster spell .
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By kaiju9 2019-01-11 12:19:45
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Wish I could partake in the Tizona fun...

An Almace question - In general, is it better to spam CDC at 1000 TP and settle for full-time AM1, or actually bother with AM3 maintenance for the increased ODT rate?
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