Was looking at the new Store TP Greatsword and realized with some effort you can actually push it down into a 6-hit with a 456 Delay, which is pretty damn amazing for a Great Sword IMO.
This set puts you at exactly a 6-hit for a 456 Delay Great Sword.
Only thing that bothers me is that you have to continue to weapon skill in Aurum Cuirass and White Tathlum to maintain your 6-Hit, but considering having a 6-hit with a 456 delay great sword is no joking matter the faster WS frequency should more than make up for the loss in body and ammo.
Also I am pretty positive by the next update the GS will be getting even more Store TP which should fix the WS gear issues, allowing you to WS in a better body like Hecatomb or Ares Cuirass.
This makes me very happy because I have been bitching about there being no good GS at all from the previous updates other than the OAT one which ive been having trouble gathering the Krab shells for :/
This Build also gains tp only a few miliseconds slower than the 5-hit Reckoning build as well.
oh oh, i had another question...did you look at the WS+ path? the ground strike (i believe was the final WS)+10% now turns into all WS+10% @85... would that be a considerably good Gsword for drk as it now has spin slash+10% essentially?
oh oh, i had another question...did you look at the WS+ path? the ground strike (i believe was the final WS)+10% now turns into all WS+10% @85... would that be a considerably good Gsword for drk as it now has spin slash+10% essentially?
I got this GS, best bet if you can't 6hit the STP and dont have OAT I belive :p
Working on OAT, but I'm not rushing it xD
Dont play DRK very much
thought so...thx was wondering if drk paralleled samurai or not, because Sam's new WS+10% GK can be 5 hit- builded (basically the lowest the STP+ GK will go) without the STP+10 on new Keiton stp build...
so this new Gsword has some drks stoaked...always a good thing ^^
The WS dmg would be higher but the Faster WS frequency would wipe the floor with it by a considerable ammount.
This is what I was thinking when I chose the TP+ plath. And now looking at this +1 version, I am glad I did. And the 98 DMG on this baddie is very nice.
Can use an Eisen grip to 5hit this GS aswell, but I belive the 6hit is faster to 100% tp
Eisen grip latent effect is increases delay by ~24%
so iono if this is correct but 456 delay would be like 565 delay?
so i think this would be a 5 hit build
11.5 + [(456 - 450) * 1.5 / 30] = 11.8 Base TP per hit.
11.8 * .42 +(11.8) = 16.7 (16.7 TP per hit with 42StoreTP for TP)
16.7 * 6 = 100.2% TP (when going from 0% TP, need 6hits)
11.8 * .40 + (11.8) = 16.5 (16.5 TP from WS with 40StoreTP for WS)
16.7 * 5 = 83.5 TP (for 5 melee hits)
16.5 TP + 83.5 TP = 100% TP
So, looking back at Gradd's OP, you don't need to WS in white tathlum. You do need to WS in Aurum cuirass though. (At least with the gear that Gradd posted in the OP, I'm not counting Goading belt or the new STP boots etc.)
Possible gear sets for this 6hit build(6hit/5hit rebuild) would be:
For TP: /sam, rajas ring, Aurum cuirass, brutal earring, rose strap, white tathlum, and the Kalavejs +1 with +8STP. This gives you +42STP for TP.
For WS: it would be /sam, rajas, Aurum cuirass, brutal, rose strap, and the Kalavejs +1 with +8STP. This gives you +40STP for WS.
Another option could be:
For TP: /sam, rajas, Askar body, brutal, rose strap, white tathlum, attila's earring + ecphoria ring (or chivalrous chain), and the Kalvejs +1 with +8STP. This gives you +42 STP for TP.
For WS: it would be /sam, rajas, Askar body, brutal, rose strap, white tathlum, and the Kalavejs +1 with +8STP. This gives you +40STP for WS.
For TP: /sam, rajas ring, Aurum cuirass, brutal earring, Attila's earring, and the Kalavejs +1 with +8STP. This gives you +37STP for TP. (If you don't have Aurum body, you could do Askar body + White tathlum here)
For WS: it would be /sam, rajas, Aurum cuirass, brutal, and the Kalavejs +1 with +8STP. This gives you +36STP for WS. (though you only needed +34STP for WS) (Also,If you don't have Aurum body, you could do Askar body + White tathlum here too.)
The 456 delay 6hit build Vs the 565 delay 5hit build.
456 * 6 = 2736 delay to 100% TP
565 * 5 = 2825 delay to 100% TP
2825/2736 = ~3.2%
The 456 delay 6hit build Kalavejs +1 has ~3.2% more WS frequency than the 565 delay Kalavejs +1.
Additionally, the 6hit Kalavejs +1 also does one more melee swing on the way to 100% TP, while still being faster than the 565 delay 5hit Kalavejs +1.
The 456 delay 6hit build Kalavejs +1 is clearly better... than a 565 delay 5hit build Kalavejs +1 (565 delay is from wearing Eisen grip).
Also, just as some other people have already mentioned, the Goading belt, and/or the new Ace's Sabatons could make this build easier to make.
Further, new possible storeTP gear for drk, as well as a possible "Kalavejs +2" with more StoreTP...on the next update, would also make this GS 456 delay... 6hit build easier to make.
But yeah, I didnt look too much on the 5hit setup, as I've checked other weapons with eisen grip before, and it just dont seem efficient, ever:P
Makes me sad when I see amano users use eisen grip to 5hit, when a 6hit is faster too 100 + more melee attacks for overall dot >_<
But yeah, I didnt look too much on the 5hit setup, as I've checked other weapons with eisen grip before, and it just dont seem efficient, ever:P
Makes me sad when I see amano users use eisen grip to 5hit, when a 6hit is faster too 100 + more melee attacks for overall dot >_<
Just had to say it was a posibility :P
Yeah the 5hit Eisen grip setup portion wasn't really directed at you (you even said that you believed that the 6hit is faster to 100% tp.) I just wanted to show to everyone in general, the comparison, and by how much etc.
But yeah, 528 delay 5hit STP Reckoning scythe and 456 delay 6hit STP Kalavejs GS are looking good. Their paths aren't particularly really hard to complete either.
Also, worth mentioning that if you're someone who is missing key items, at the moment, for this X-hit build... such as rose strap, and/or STP body etc... you could still do STP Kalavejs +1 + sword strap for a 442 delay 7hit build, which would be pretty decent. (should be an upgrade from a 6hit Naglering)
With a Kalavejs +1... 442 delay (while using sword strap) you would need +27 StoreTP for TP and +26 StoreTP for WS, for a 7hit build (7hit/6hit rebuild).
Which would be very easy with just:
/sam, rajas, brutal, and the +8STP on the Kalavejs +1. This gives you +29 StoreTP. (though you only really needed +27 STP)
Nevertheless, of course, the 6hit 456 delay Kalavejs would be another upgrade, and is what you should work on ultimately.
After seeing the delay it pushed the weapon into I didnt even consider bothering checking the difference in speed I knew it was crap X:
Only thing I made sure to check the difference between was the 5-hit reckoning +1 and 6-hit Kalav +1 and its only a few milliseconds of a difference in the two getting to 100 TP, reckoning having the slight advantage.
Was looking at the new Store TP Greatsword and realized with some effort you can actually push it down into a 6-hit with a 456 Delay, which is pretty damn amazing for a Great Sword IMO.
This set puts you at exactly a 6-hit for a 456 Delay Great Sword.
Only thing that bothers me is that you have to continue to weapon skill in Aurum Cuirass and White Tathlum to maintain your 6-Hit, but considering having a 6-hit with a 456 delay great sword is no joking matter the faster WS frequency should more than make up for the loss in body and ammo.
Also I am pretty positive by the next update the GS will be getting even more Store TP which should fix the WS gear issues, allowing you to WS in a better body like Hecatomb or Ares Cuirass.
This makes me very happy because I have been bitching about there being no good GS at all from the previous updates other than the OAT one which ive been having trouble gathering the Krab shells for :/
This Build also gains tp only a few miliseconds slower than the 5-hit Reckoning build as well.
