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 Cerberus.Nieko
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By Cerberus.Nieko 2009-08-11 14:18:37
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dude... i see teet in ur avi.... hawt.
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By Bahamut.Reith 2009-08-11 15:05:07
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@Yotevol; I understand your point of view. Most people on here are kids an tend to act immature for no apparent reason.. gets rather old.
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By Alexander.Auronius 2009-08-11 15:06:15
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Ridill: The number 1 most overrated piece of equipment from any MMO. Ever.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-08-11 15:07:44
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Ridill: Overrated, but also one of the best weapons in the game.
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By Bahamut.Reith 2009-08-11 15:08:55
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Ridill: It's just plan overrated, and not worth the effort and time some spend on trying to get one.
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By Bahamut.Revision 2009-08-11 15:11:55
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Yotevol said:
Let's correct this statement.

You don't "NEED" a Ridill, you really, really "WANT" one.

You "NEED" air to breathe. You "NEED" food to live.

You don't "NEED" a piece of code that is attached to your account and gives you a weapon that phenomonally increases your damage per second. In all honesty, if you moved to my server, I would be sure to place you on the blacklist as soon as I could and proceed to inform every HNM LS that you have difficulties with discerning the difference between real life and the game.

Seriously, if you don't have the time to join an "end-game LS", then why go for end-game gear? I'm sure there are people that are in a linkshell that have spent a lot of time and dedication to build it up and coordinate fighting Fafnir on a regular basis for the whole purpose of the hope of getting a Ridill for themselves or friends of theirs.

And now, you are saying, "I am willing to pay 5 million for this particular item." Basically saying, "I am more important then the several weeks/months you spent in your efforts, so give me gear." Or worse, you bought the gil online with real money, which makes you even lower than the stuff my dogs release daily.

In either case, get over yourself, discover that you are NOT the center of the universe and find an end-game linkshell that will take the time to work with you and not for you.

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Get off your high chocobo.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-08-11 15:12:01
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As far as swords go, it is, unquestionably, the best sword in the game.

As far as offhand weapons go, it is, unquestionably the best offhand weapon in the game.

Seeing as how WAR with GA is still better, and BLU or PLD can't even use it, that doesn't leave very many options open for this sword, but a THF offhanding it or a RNG TPing with it will get you further than any other offhand/TP weapon.

Does that make it worth 50M? I don't think so.

Does that make it worth at least 5M? For sure.
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-08-11 15:12:48
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Auronius said:
Ridill: The number 1 most overrated piece of equipment from any MMO. Ever.


Its overrated, only Axe/Sword WARs would use it. Even then, GA > Axe anyday....

Get a Fort Axe if you want to TP fast....
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By Alexander.Auronius 2009-08-11 15:15:41
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WAR / THF / DRK / BST / RNG / SAM

Please explain exactly which of these jobs Ridill is the best weapon for?

None.

All Ridill is good for is farming and standing around WG and saying, "Hi, I have high tolerance for EXTREME boringness and botting." What an... accomplishment?
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-08-11 15:15:57
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Enternius said:

Seeing as how WAR with GA is still better, and BLU or PLD can't even use it, that doesn't leave very many options open for this sword, but a THF offhanding it or a RNG TPing with it will get you further than any other offhand/TP weapon.


Any RNG who TPs using a Ridill needs to shoot themselves in the foot.

THFs offhanding Ridill....maybe, but it really depends on the gear of the THF. More Att+/Haste+ than STR and I might see that as a possibility...
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By Bahamut.Reith 2009-08-11 15:17:13
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As Enternius said, it's alright for thf to off-hand, but really.. I only see it useful for wars that are extremly geared out, that can make up the loss of not useing a GA.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-08-11 15:17:43
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Korpg said:


Any RNG who TPs using a Ridill needs to shoot themselves in the foot.

Culvern? <.>
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-08-11 15:18:59
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Reith said:
As Enternius said, it's alright for thf to off-hand, but really.. I only see it useful for wars that are extremly geared out, that can make up the loss of not useing a GA.

The loss is still there.

Pimped out WAR/NIN using Axe/Ridill still fails since that Pimped out WAR/NIN can still use Perdu/Fort/Byakko's and do ***more damage than Axe can give you....
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By Bahamut.Reith 2009-08-11 15:20:34
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Korpg said:
Reith said:
As Enternius said, it's alright for thf to off-hand, but really.. I only see it useful for wars that are extremly geared out, that can make up the loss of not useing a GA.

The loss is still there.

Pimped out WAR/NIN using Axe/Ridill still fails since that Pimped out WAR/NIN can still use Perdu/Fort/Byakko's and do ***more damage than Axe can give you....

lol Yeah, it's still there, but I'm just saying war is probably the only job that can make the only use out of it, without failing that horribly.
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By Alexander.Auronius 2009-08-11 15:20:41
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Enternius said:
As far as swords go, it is, unquestionably, the best sword in the game.

As far as offhand weapons go, it is, unquestionably the best offhand weapon in the game.

Seeing as how WAR with GA is still better, and BLU or PLD can't even use it, that doesn't leave very many options open for this sword, but a THF offhanding it or a RNG TPing with it will get you further than any other offhand/TP weapon.

Does that make it worth 50M? I don't think so.

Does that make it worth at least 5M? For sure.


Thf (and i assume rng) Sword skill is far too low to make Ridill for it to be more effective than another dagger on anything worth fighting, including colibri.
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By Siren.Chrichri 2009-08-11 15:22:02
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Thf has 200 skill in sword. Even with merits and a suppa that's a massive amount of lost accuracy from the skill difference alone. If you want to occasionally whiff 2 to 3 times, offhand a ridill on thf.

edit: yeah, what the guy above me said.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-08-11 15:25:10
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If you have even a 33% hit rate with Ridill, you'll still TP faster than with any other dagger except Mercurial Kris, and your hits that do land will do 6-10x as much as Merc Kris. Seeing as how having 200 skill will lower your hit rate by...Oh...20-25%, giving you at least a 75% hit rate, offhanding Ridill will still at the very least, double your TP gain, and massively improve your DoT.
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By Bahamut.Revision 2009-08-11 15:32:01
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I don't know about Thf but using ridill offhand for rng parser's much slower than even just normal distanced ranged attacks. Go in close to mob then back to WS spot is too time consuming. Not to mention you will have to use acc food instead of rattk food.
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By Alexander.Auronius 2009-08-11 15:33:21
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Unfortunately, I don't know much more about this than Enternius, who apparently knows... less than me.
What target are you talking about? Colibri? I'm completely inept at math, but I'm puh-ritty sure 200 skill will not yield a 75% hit rate on colibri...

It's well known even among thieves who do minimal research (like myself) that offhanding Ridill is for farming onry. Skill is too low, accuracy too poor. Offhanding a dagger TPs you faster.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-08-11 15:34:43
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Revision said:
I don't know about Thf but using ridill offhand for rng parser's much slower than even just normal distanced ranged attacks.

If you're using a TPing weapon, you don't use a normal bow. You use Culverin+1 and Cannon shells

TPing 100 TP in 30 seconds and then WSing for 4k is some of the best damage a RNG can get, period, which by extension is some of the best damage any job can do over a prolonged period of time.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2009-08-11 15:35:40
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Lol @ everyone who said GA > Axe/Ridill..
Maybe for what HNM, Gods, Kirin, Sea stuff? But for fun stuff in this game I would much rather use Ridill on war(he is clearly talking about thf, im not). Fun stuff might include Merits for sure, Nyzul Isle, Dynamis, Einhenjar, Farming, and thats just a few. GA is boring as hell for birds and Axe/Ridill owns..From my experience I would much rather have a Ridill war than a Perdu GA in merits..

Back to OP: If you find a someone that will sell you a Ridill for 5m take that luck..drop everything and fly/run/drive/walk your *** you Vegas..cuz you're one lucky son of a ***.
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By Bahamut.Revision 2009-08-11 15:37:53
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Enternius said:
Revision said:
I don't know about Thf but using ridill offhand for rng parser's much slower than even just normal distanced ranged attacks.

If you're using a TPing weapon, you don't use a normal bow. You use Culverin+1 and Cannon shells

TPing 100 TP in 30 seconds and then WSing for 4k is some of the best damage a RNG can get, period, which by extension is some of the best damage any job can do over a prolonged period of time.

Sorry but the only multi hit weapon that can improve a rng would be a kclub. The trade off of using acc food vs attk food isn't worth it. Your not gonna WS more than 2500 on suihi with culverin. Most Rng's can tp 100 in less than 30 secs anyway.

edit: Only time trade off for suishi vs rattk food is worth it is a kclub. I can see if you already have a ridill and you wanna use it on rng for fun but I would out parser you using curry buns and ebow. I don't care what gun you use.
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2009-08-11 15:38:08
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Zorander said:
Lol @ everyone who said GA > Axe/Ridill..
Maybe for what HNM, Gods, Kirin, Sea stuff? But for fun stuff in this game I would much rather use Ridill on war(he is clearly talking about thf, im not). Fun stuff might include Merits for sure, Nyzul Isle, Dynamis, Einhenjar, Farming, and thats just a few. GA is boring as hell for birds and Axe/Ridill owns..From my experience I would much rather have a Ridill war than a Perdu GA in merits..

Back to OP: If you find a someone that will sell you a Ridill for 5m take that luck..drop everything and fly/run/drive/walk your *** you Vegas..cuz you're one lucky son of a ***.


GA > Ridill

might be more fun but for the super serious peeps its the dmg that counts not the countless swings
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-08-11 15:41:25
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Revision said:
Enternius said:
Revision said:
I don't know about Thf but using ridill offhand for rng parser's much slower than even just normal distanced ranged attacks.

If you're using a TPing weapon, you don't use a normal bow. You use Culverin+1 and Cannon shells

TPing 100 TP in 30 seconds and then WSing for 4k is some of the best damage a RNG can get, period, which by extension is some of the best damage any job can do over a prolonged period of time.

Sorry but the only multi hit weapon that can improve a rng would be a kclub. The trade off of using acc food vs attk food isn't worth it. Your not gonna WS more than 2500 on suihi with culverin. Most Rng's can tp 100 in less than 30 secs anyway.


I WS for 3000~ with E Bow, it would be sad if I couldn't do more with a Culverin and capped Marksmanship merits.
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By Bahamut.Revision 2009-08-11 15:43:42
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3k is ok if your using suishi. Should do more with attk food plus how many people would fork over cannon shell money for a merit pt? Forgive me but it just seems to be reaching.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-08-11 15:45:53
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Revision said:
3k is ok if your using suishi. Should do more with attk food plus how many people would fork over cannon shell money for a merit pt? Forgive me but it just seems to be reaching.

Lol, if you only do WSs with the shells, that's 5k for 12 WSs >.> Not that bad.
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By Sylph.Pocoterremoto 2009-08-11 15:45:58
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2009-08-11 15:48:07
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Thunderz said:
[quote=Zorander]..

GA > Ridill

might be more fun but for the super serious peeps its the dmg that counts not the countless swings


For event type crap yes GA will win the damage game. But for all that other stuff in this game, the lovely Perdu will often fall short of a Axe/Ridill war or a Ridill/Joy (Birds onry) war. If I had a Ridill my Perdu would never see the light of day..and it would be well worth it!

*All of this depends on gear and merits..I have 8/8 Axe and 8/8 Sword merits so I will always favor Axe/joy..yes go ahead and lol@joy I don't mind.
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-08-11 15:51:31
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Zorander said:
Lol @ everyone who said GA > Axe/Ridill..
Maybe for what HNM, Gods, Kirin, Sea stuff? But for fun stuff in this game I would much rather use Ridill on war(he is clearly talking about thf, im not). Fun stuff might include Merits for sure, Nyzul Isle, Dynamis, Einhenjar, Farming, and thats just a few. GA is boring as hell for birds and Axe/Ridill owns..From my experience I would much rather have a Ridill war than a Perdu GA in merits..

Back to OP: If you find a someone that will sell you a Ridill for 5m take that luck..drop everything and fly/run/drive/walk your *** you Vegas..cuz you're one lucky son of a ***.


Merits: If you don't use Fort Axe, you are gimping yourself. Don't tell me that its harder to get a 100% drop in sea than it is to get a 10% drop from a 3-7 day NM....

Farming: Maybe, but in all honesty, why? GA still outpwns Ridill during farms and you don't have to sub /NIN to use that lolsword.

Nyzul/Ein/Dynamis: GA still pwns, same reason as merit party.....

Fort Axe with the 5 hit setup means you WS once every 3 hits....that means you are going to WS 2x per bird, 2x more than any SAM (except maybe the Meditate spamming, TP buring, 5-6 hit SAMs, then maybe 1.5x more than him) and 3x+ more than any other DD....

and don't say gimp damage either, cause whats better, 3x 600 raging rush per 1x 1200 raging rush?
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-08-11 15:54:24
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Korpg said:
GA is better than Ridill because I don't have one and am jealous of those who do.
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