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By eliroo 2021-03-01 12:52:44
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Head is pretty powerful for any TP scaling WS on all the jobs.

Body looks great for MNK for the 2 minutes you aren't in Bhikku. I am struggling to fit the body into any of my planned SAM sets because the DT-% on the AF+3 body is pretty important for capping MDT.

Hands do look good for AM3 sets, but idk how viable that is. SAM would only use them when Hasso isn't on though. PUP has no reason not to full time these.

Legs also look really good for certain WS at attack cap. Mostly multi-hit WS or for jobs that don't have a JSE WSD pants (MNK Final Heaven?)

Feet look great for hybrid WS.

It certainly isn't as game breaking as Sakpata but some really good pieces there. I will personally be focusing the head first whenever my static makes it to Mpaca.
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-01 13:03:19
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I will personally be focusing on playing other games until they fix Odyssey* is what you meant, surely? xD
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By eliroo 2021-03-01 13:08:18
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We avoided it for so long but the new sets were too good, so now we are suffering.
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-01 13:18:21
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Honestly I'm not really that impressed except Sakpata and a few more things which are really cool.
Rest goes from "meh" to "yet more situationally cool gear that I don't want because I'm *** overstrained already in my inventory gdi" lol

Plus all this new stuff with no good content to use all this power creep gets boring after a while.
It's just my two cents of course, and I'm terribly OT so I'll cut it here :-P
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By Odin.Senaki 2021-03-01 13:23:02
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Honestly I'm not really that impressed except Sakpata and a few more things which are really cool.
Rest goes from "meh" to "yet more situationally cool gear that I don't want because I'm *** overstrained already in my inventory gdi" lol

Plus all this new stuff with no good content to use all this power creep gets boring after a while.
It's just my two cents of course, and I'm terribly OT so I'll cut it here :-P

As a casual player who often doesn't have the time to invest in 3hr Omen runs, or 2hr Dyna runs, I have been loving the Ody NM fights.

It gives me something to look forward to that I can do without 18 people.
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2021-03-01 13:24:47
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I will personally be focusing on playing other games until they fix Odyssey* is what you meant, surely? xD


But what happens if they don't fix Odyssey's lag in the next 3 or 4 months? What if it's still like this 6 months down the road? Would you really wanna wait for over half a year to begin augmenting gear then? I know it's a severe issue, but there's still no guarantee it'll be corrected in a timely manner. Not with the limited resources the devs are working with.
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-01 13:27:34
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I'm sure he meant something else, I can't get what though °-°


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I will personally be focusing on playing other games until they fix Odyssey* is what you meant, surely? xD


What happens if they don't fix Odyssey in the next 3 or 4 months?
Not sure I'm following you. Why should it be any different? 3 months, 5, 1000, all the same.
I'm enjoying Segments farming runs with friends but Gaol is borderline masochism.
I guess it's different for people who get different latency, but I'm close to 15 seconds delay and lotsa other good stuff, so yeah... not gonna play that :-P
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By eliroo 2021-03-01 13:28:56
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At this point the lag is just a mechanic.
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2021-03-01 13:31:50
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The point being, there's no guarantee they'll fix the lag anytime soon... if ever. Dynamis is still a problem and it's been out for three whole friggin years. If the lag is still this bad a year from now, then what? It's hypothetical sure, but it's still something to think about. Would you forego augmenting indefinitely because of it, or would you eventually come to a point where you just say screw it and try to deal with it regardless".
 
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By eliroo 2021-03-01 13:48:03
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endxen said: »
If it takes you 3 hours to do omen runs then your group is doing something wrong.

I guess you could say that if you group takes you that long its a ..... bad omen.
 
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By Odin.Senaki 2021-03-01 14:19:07
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eliroo said: »
endxen said: »
If it takes you 3 hours to do omen runs then your group is doing something wrong.

I guess you could say that if you group takes you that long its a ..... bad omen.

I meant with 4 Kis*.

I was exaggerating a bit, but point is that I'm a pretty casual player. I've gone weeks while only playing 1-2hrs in total. :P
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By Odin.Senaki 2021-03-01 14:23:11
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eliroo said: »
At this point the lag is just a mechanic.

It's an easy way for SE to increase the difficulty. xD
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-01 15:02:02
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Fenrir.Melphina said: »
The point being, there's no guarantee they'll fix the lag anytime soon...
There's no guarantee they're gonna fix it at all! XD

But w/e, I'm good, it's not like I can't enjoy FFXI unless I have every Odyssey set R30, right? (R30 not even achievable right now anyway)


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Dynamis is still a problem
Dynamis is bad, very bad, VERY BAD and put me on the edge of takin a break multiple times.
But while being bad it's nowhere close to Gaol, nowhere.
Also Dynamis is content you do with an alliance, you don't really need to farm like a korean grinder (segments etc) to enter and you can do it on what I would call a pretty relaxed way.
Could argue for W3 when it was added I guess.


As I said before while there are multiple interesting pieces, I'm left speechless only by Sapkata, which I can't use alas (or thankfully? I don't know at this point).
Rest of the gear is... I dunno it gives me very mixed feelings.
It's like I said before, couple of "wow!" things, some "meh" stuff with very strange Jobs grouped together, and then lotsa situational things that could be cool but my inventory is *** full everywhere at this point and hardly any of those pieces is a complete replacement for previous ones, so I dunno, but I'm not exactely "excited" as I was with other "recent" FFXI situations.

A lot of AF+3 pieces when Omen Came out
Some (not many honestly) relic+3 pieces
Malignance set.
Whoaaa, that stuff really had me super excited.

These sets, aside from the already mentioned exceptions, not so much.
It's just me of course!
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-01 15:06:38
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Btw, I'm not sure some of you guys realize the amount of lag (and other situations, like disappearing players, monsters, HP bars, no inventory loading etc) that I'm getting inside Gaol.

Some people whine about 5-6 seconds saying it's "unplayable". I've been getting delays close to 14 seconds sometimes, to give you an idea :-D

I was so lagged sometimes I couldn't even finish casting 4 songs before NiTro disappeared, and god knows which set I actually end up midcasting stuff, when I actually manage to do that. Most of the time I have to ask my friends "did you see me casting? Did I cast anything?" it's hilarious.


I should make a video and post it on youtube lol.
 
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By Heghmoh 2021-03-01 16:53:22
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Guyford said: »
For Kalunga, that's volcanic stasis and its conal. A pup tank doesn't care about this. We just used sam brd smn pup with monberaux and koru and pacifiying rubied the sam repeatedly. Just stand back during lahar weakness and its super easy.

brilliant! We've been running WAR, DRK, COR, BRD, WHM, RDM....but our war has a PUP. We will have to try the PUP strat! Either that or try RUN tanking it...
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2021-03-01 19:59:07
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Does anyone know if the augmented weapon stats work in the offhand/ranged slot?

I assume they would but FFXI is what it is. Gleti's Knife is openly mocking my Excalibur with it's potential offhand attack value and the crossbow might make for some fun Rampaging while still being able to Trueflight.
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By Nariont 2021-03-01 20:00:59
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unless it says mainhand only everything on the current aug lists should work in the OH
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By Odin.Senaki 2021-03-01 20:10:27
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Did two T3 NMs the other day:

(Method is just how we did it, I'm sure there are other ways.)

Vengeance lvl 0.

Kalunga (T. rex)
*Won: Run, Brd, Cor, War, Whm, Rdm.
*Rdm does 1hr Stymie silence, Phalanx II, Haste II, then normal Rdm stuff.
*Brd (Empy, Relic Horn, Aeonic): Honor, Attk, Attk, Scherzo, Acc.
*Cor: Rogue's Roll + Sam's.
*Run (Epeo): Used water runes and positioned back to pillar to avoid knockback.
***Run noted to not use WS as to not mess up SCs beyond getting AM3 to increase chances of slashing crits.
*War (Farsha).

DD darkness SC and do slashing damage for crits to proc.

Brd was meleeing and doing Rudra's.

Wildfire was seen to heal boss, so don't wildfire.

Let the Tank get some hate at the start before engaging.

War was using Cloudsplitter + Fencer build for crits, probably safer to use a Nin, Mnk, or Sam with Ken. Armor and then have them spam a darkness SC.


Arebati (snow kitty)
*Won with: Pld, Brd, Cor, Rng, Geo, Whm
*Rng and Cor did last stand with aeonic for light.
*Geo (Idris): Entrust-Fend, Geo-Fraility, Indi-Fury.
***Stood with ranged DD.
*Brd (Empy, Relic Horn, Aeonic): Honor march, Attk, Attk, Ranged Acc, Agil +.
***Brd did defensive buffs (Ice protection, Scherzo, etc) on tank and ballads on Whm.
*Cor: Rogue's Roll + Sam's.
*Pld (Aegis).

The last stands made light, and their auto attacks from piercing crits to proc as needed.

Beyond Pld, everyone stays out of range.

Let the Tank get some hate at the start before engaging.

Both the Rng and Cor used Aeonic guns.

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By Guyford 2021-03-01 21:07:05
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Crits don't proc Kalunga, multistep scs do.
Crits do proc Arebati
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By Odin.Senaki 2021-03-01 22:27:55
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Guyford said: »
Crits don't proc Kalunga, multistep scs do.
Crits do proc Arebati

Someone should to update the Bg wiki with this info. :)
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-03-01 22:33:23
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(You can)
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By Odin.Senaki 2021-03-01 22:36:51
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
(You can)

Idk how.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-03-01 22:40:20
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Sign up
Go to a random page (WoC is good)
click edit
take five minutes to look over the script
open a separate tab of the page you want to add info for
look at the format of the page first page you went to
copy the same format into the editable areas on the page you want to edit, keeping the exact same format. Just replace the relevant details
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I learned it in 5 minutes when updating the T1s page. Not that difficult. If its wrong, spicy can yell at you later (oh well)
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By Guyford 2021-03-01 22:44:21
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To save you the trouble of searching back:
Lion and Bee proced by rapid crits (more crits needed the more times aura goes up)
Trex and Tree proced by multi step scs (3 step first time aura goes up, then 4 step for 2nd ect.)
Bird is proced by MBs on the same sc step (2 bursts first time, 3 2nd ect.)
Shark is proced by 1 ws followed by multiple simultaneous wses in the sc window. (2 wses first time, 3 next ect.)
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By Odin.Senaki 2021-03-01 22:45:46
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Sign up
Not that difficult. If its wrong, spicy can yell at you later (oh well)

How do I sign up? I go to the 'log in' and it doesn't offer a sign up option. :c

Who be Spicy?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-03-02 09:23:00
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Guyford said: »
To save you the trouble of searching back:
Lion and Bee proced by rapid crits (more crits needed the more times aura goes up)
Trex and Tree proced by multi step scs (3 step first time aura goes up, then 4 step for 2nd ect.)
Bird is proced by MBs on the same sc step (2 bursts first time, 3 2nd ect.)
Shark is proced by 1 ws followed by multiple simultaneous wses in the sc window. (2 wses first time, 3 next ect.)

That's basically what this chart is showing. Red proc, Blue proc (1st time, then subsequent times).

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