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By fonewear 2014-04-02 13:01:42
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My body is ready for this:


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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-04-02 13:01:52
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Anecdote, but my parents had to cancel their health insurance because it was getting to around 600/month. They now pay around 120/month.

Thanks, Obama.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-04-02 13:02:23
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Anecdote, but my parents had to cancel their health insurance because it was getting to around 600/month. They now pay around 120/month.

Thanks, Obama.

/whispers
pssst you're in the wrong thread... health insurance is <over there>


Edit: this is the greedy moneybags backstroking scrooge mcduck style across a swimming pool filled with gold coins buying up all the politics type things thread....
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-04-02 13:03:02
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Anecdote, but my parents had to cancel their health insurance because it was getting to around 600/month. They now pay around 120/month.

Thanks, Obama.

Pretty much everyone Fox News or Koch Brothers ad has brought on was challenged and showed that they either had garbage insurance or their rates would have gone down if they actually looked into Obamacare. Are there any stories of anyone's rates legitimately going up for little to no reason?

EDIT: WRONG thread lol

moved to <over there>
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-04-02 13:03:38
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
This thread is a prime example of people going against they're own interests ('cause I know none of y'all are rich ***) just to spite the libtardos. I'm sure the aristocracy is pleased with your efforts and a reward biscuit will be assigned to everyone soon.
So burn em down because they have greater means? Gotcha! Lennin must whisper sweet nothings to you in your dreams. Seriously, get over yourself and find work smarter/harder if you want to rise.

Talk about voting against your interests, the laws and regulations of this presidency have served to do nothing but keep poor people poor and slow to stop their crawl out of poverty into economic independence.

Vote democrat, become a ward of the state and never have to worry that the money we borrow to keep you there will ever run out!
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2014-04-02 13:05:54
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Find work smarter/harder!
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-04-02 13:06:20
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Congress passes laws. The president signs them.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-04-02 13:07:01
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Whatever, people can donate whatever they want, money isn't going to change people's political affiliation.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-04-02 13:07:27
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Burn em down? Huh? I'm sorry that you think piles upon piles of dark money is somehow a boon to democracy. Seriously, I am.
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By Sylph.Shipp 2014-04-02 13:07:59
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Anecdote, but my parents had to cancel their health insurance because it was getting to around 600/month. They now pay around 120/month.

Thanks, Obama.

Pretty much everyone Fox News or Koch Brothers ad has brought on was challenged and showed that they either had garbage insurance or their rates would have gone down if they actually looked into Obamacare. Are there any stories of anyone's rates legitimately going up for little to no reason?

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/03/18/pummelled-fact-checkers-koch-brothers-dump-obamacare-horror-story-ads.html

Yes, there are. Even last year, while my dad was still on hospice, policies changed due to Obamacare and he was no longer able to get a physical therapist out when he had health insurance and had a physical therapist in 2012.

It's not like Obamacare just came out as an extra option and nothing else changed with other insurance policies or within the medical offices themselves. Obamacare being passed did cause insurance companies to change policies, as well as policies within the medical field.

It's not all bad, obviously, but there are people who got completely screwed over due to Obamacare.


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So burn em down because they have greater means? Gotcha! Lennin must whisper sweet nothings to you in your dreams. Seriously, get over yourself and find work smarter/harder if you want to rise.

Talk about voting against your interests, the laws and regulations of this presidency have served to do nothing but keep poor people poor and slow to stop their crawl out of poverty into economic independence.

Vote democrat, become a ward of the state and never have to worry that the money we borrow to keep you there will ever run out!
This is so stupid. Some people don't have the means to ever get into high paying jobs, even if they wanted to and applied themselves. The economy is screwed, and has been for a while, if you hadn't noticed. Having the rich dictate policies by simple virtue of having more wealth is a terrible idea. People shouldn't even have to give examples, but you already have the example of Charlie Sheen and drugs. Use your imagination and think of the ramifications of rich people who want to be able to put more restrictions and censorship on the internet. Remember SOPA?
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-04-02 13:08:47
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fonewear said: »
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Emperor Barack Augustus Obama, first ruler of the new United Empire of America.

slow down a bit, you're turning me on.

Nothing turns me on like raising health care cost plans for Americans. All while poorly implementing new health care laws.

You rang !


I can't stop laughing at that picture of Hillary haha
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-04-02 13:09:10
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Anecdote, but my parents had to cancel their health insurance because it was getting to around 600/month. They now pay around 120/month.

Thanks, Obama.

Pretty much everyone Fox News or Koch Brothers ad has brought on was challenged and showed that they either had garbage insurance or their rates would have gone down if they actually looked into Obamacare. Are there any stories of anyone's rates legitimately going up for little to no reason?

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/03/18/pummelled-fact-checkers-koch-brothers-dump-obamacare-horror-story-ads.html


Well it's kind of like the Hobby Lobby situation. On one hand you got them fighting the implementation of aspects of the ACA and using the platform of religious freedoms to avoid having to provide policies that offer discounted contraceptives and abortion pills. Then on other hand Hobby Lobby invests in such pharmaceuticals as Pfizer, Teva, Bayer, AstraZeneca, and Forest Laboratories. Which all manufacture IUDs, abortion pills, contraceptives the whole 9.

So it turns out with both hands brought together. Hobby Lobby invests in the very product they claim is against their religious beliefs. Or in other words they're not trying to have you or their employees get their invested products on the cheap.

More than likely the Koch brothers have the same two faced dealings with respect to their agenda.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2014-04-02 13:09:32
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Whatever, people can donate whatever they want, money isn't going to change people's political affiliation.


Except it doesn't matter what anyones political affiliation is. Rich people flood money into both sides of the aisle already. The only time a partisan line is drawn is over *** that doesn't matter and serves as a distraction from real issues. Our government has been hijacked for awhile, this is just making the process easier for those bank rolling politicians.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-04-02 13:10:24
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
So burn em down because they have greater means? Gotcha! Lennin must whisper sweet nothings to you in your dreams. Seriously, get over yourself and find work smarter/harder if you want to rise.

Talk about voting against your interests, the laws and regulations of this presidency have served to do nothing but keep poor people poor and slow to stop their crawl out of poverty into economic independence.

Vote democrat, become a ward of the state and never have to worry that the money we borrow to keep you there will ever run out!

Vote republican, turn your state red and start mooching off blue states.

http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fyqrVdrpABE/UNkTUEBGcvI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_TY9FO_u7GQ/s626/blue-states-subsidize-red-states.gif
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-04-02 13:10:58
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
dark money

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By wormfeeder 2014-04-02 13:12:56
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Anecdote, but my parents had to cancel their health insurance because it was getting to around 600/month. They now pay around 120/month.

Thanks, Obama.

Pretty much everyone Fox News or Koch Brothers ad has brought on was challenged and showed that they either had garbage insurance or their rates would have gone down if they actually looked into Obamacare. Are there any stories of anyone's rates legitimately going up for little to no reason?

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/03/18/pummelled-fact-checkers-koch-brothers-dump-obamacare-horror-story-ads.html
yes my brothers cost more than doubled. because you know if you make more you gotta pay more. *** progressives. ruining this country.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-04-02 13:19:01
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Man, you'd wonder why obamacare approval rating aren't going down but going up instead, despite the tens of millions of dollars in ads against it.

Anyone been to Ted Cruz's facebook page lately?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-04-02 13:21:23
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Burn em down? Huh? I'm sorry that you think piles upon piles of dark money is somehow a boon to democracy. Seriously, I am.

I'm sorry that you think free speech is a hindered to democracy.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-04-02 13:24:16
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So what won't you believe even if they wrap it in pretty words?
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By wormfeeder 2014-04-02 13:25:06
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Burn em down? Huh? I'm sorry that you think piles upon piles of dark money is somehow a boon to democracy. Seriously, I am.

I'm sorry that you think free speech is a hindered to democracy.
money isn't speech anymore than corporations are people.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-04-02 13:27:18
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Corporations ARE people. Money IS speech.

The supreme court has concluded such things.
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By wormfeeder 2014-04-02 13:28:20
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sorry but the supreme court is wrong.
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By Sylph.Shipp 2014-04-02 13:29:38
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Man, you'd wonder why obamacare approval rating aren't going down but going up instead, despite the tens of millions of dollars in ads against it.

Anyone been to Ted Cruz's facebook page lately?
Don't quite understand why you refuse to acknowledge that Obamacare did put some people in a worse spot. I'm a liberal and even I can acknowledge it. Was it for the greater good of the overall country? Possibly, but flat out ignoring the fact that it did have an adverse reaction for some people, especially the older generations, is hogwash.
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By fonewear 2014-04-02 13:34:44
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Corporations ARE people. Money IS speech.

The supreme court has concluded such things.

But the attorney I saw on TV said otherwise...
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-04-02 13:35:03
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Man, you'd wonder why obamacare approval rating aren't going down but going up instead, despite the tens of millions of dollars in ads against it.

Anyone been to Ted Cruz's facebook page lately?
Don't quite understand why you refuse to acknowledge that Obamacare did put some people in a worse spot. I'm a liberal and even I can acknowledge it. Was it for the greater good of the overall country? Possibly, but flat out ignoring the fact that it did have an adverse reaction for some people, especially the older generations, is hogwash.

Maybe it's because I'm not refusing to acknowledge that Obamacare put some people in worse spots.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-04-02 13:44:48
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fonewear said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Corporations ARE people. Money IS speech.

The supreme court has concluded such things.

But the attorney I saw on TV said otherwise...

Are you still watching mainstream media?
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By Sylph.Shipp 2014-04-02 13:45:04
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Sylph.Shipp said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Man, you'd wonder why obamacare approval rating aren't going down but going up instead, despite the tens of millions of dollars in ads against it.

Anyone been to Ted Cruz's facebook page lately?
Don't quite understand why you refuse to acknowledge that Obamacare did put some people in a worse spot. I'm a liberal and even I can acknowledge it. Was it for the greater good of the overall country? Possibly, but flat out ignoring the fact that it did have an adverse reaction for some people, especially the older generations, is hogwash.

Maybe it's because I'm not refusing to acknowledge that Obamacare put some people in worse spots.
My apologies, then. Your posts seem to indicate that's how you feel since you stated:

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Anecdote, but my parents had to cancel their health insurance because it was getting to around 600/month. They now pay around 120/month.

Thanks, Obama.

Pretty much everyone Fox News or Koch Brothers ad has brought on was challenged and showed that they either had garbage insurance or their rates would have gone down if they actually looked into Obamacare. Are there any stories of anyone's rates legitimately going up for little to no reason?

Then you went on to talk about the approval rating of Obamacare when people gave examples.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-04-02 13:47:19
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Yes, yes I did.

I was making the point that it was helping more people than it was hurting.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-04-02 13:49:37
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You're both refusing to acknowledge you are in the wrong thread!
This is the evil republican money machine triumphs over the poor people thread!

THE ACA THREAD!!!
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-04-02 13:58:34
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Don't look at me, I wasn't the first one to bring it up.

Anyways, this is an example of people being too stupid to realize they've fallen for propaganda. No, no one here is going to dump their life's savings towards any particular candidate. You need to look at how this law is actually going to be used, rather how it could theoretically be used. All this does is chip away at laws that are put in place to outlaw and prevent bribery.

I don't understand how everyone loves to point out and criticize corruption, then half of us support rulings that will lead to that corruption.
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