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 Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-28 14:34:16
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You can't attend Vanafest unless you have a JP POL ID.

So, the airport argument is null and void.
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By Moonwalkerv 2012-05-28 14:34:41
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Quebec - Orlando $623

London - Orland0 $884

Sydney Australia - Orlando $2290

Yeah really cheap and easy for anyone outside america to go to the NA vanafest.

No idea which city it is so just picked Orlando.

fares from http://www.skyscanner.com.au
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By Asura.Kowen 2012-05-28 14:36:52
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Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
You're right, a $1000 plane ticket to fly across my own country and a $1000 plane ticket to fly to Japan are completely different. How silly of me.

A ticket to fly from Europe to LA is probably at least twice as expensive as a ticket from, say, NY to LA. So it's a pretty big difference...
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-05-28 14:37:33
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Fenrir.Eneas said: »
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
The first issue is not what they offer, but the fact that they offer something to a selected few while denying it to the others, for no reason.

Second comes the fact that they hand out most prized items like candies, yes.

Though, I think that only someone from EU can understand this, or someone with a brain, so carry on.
You act as though just because someone lives in the United States that it's easy to go to Vanafest. It's not. Get over yourself.
You still have a possibility, we don't.

Know your place.

Last time I checked EU has airports, internet, and employment opportunities. Buy a *** ticket and stop crying so much.

So does USA.

That...was...my...point. Thank you?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-05-28 14:37:34
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Lol, this is such a non-issue, but its funny to see people's reactions.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2012-05-28 14:37:42
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One thing that needs to be kept in mind is the fact that all the official info on anything always generates first in Japan.

The rewards from this event seem way too big to be limited to the Japanese playerbase, so I'd like to believe that once the American team is done Google translating their monthly assignments from HQ we will see something come from them too.
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By Mirecat 2012-05-28 14:40:47
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Unless your leaving the game because of this then you cant moan.

you know SE is racist. always have been and always will be.


If you moan and still pay to play to be treated like 2nd rate players then they have the right to laugh at you and treat you this way.

Goodbye FFXI

cant teach my kids racism is bad and then still play this game
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2012-05-28 14:45:33
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:O
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By Moonwalkerv 2012-05-28 14:46:30
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Fenrir.Terminus said: »
Asura.Kowen said: »
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
You're right, a $1000 plane ticket to fly across my own country and a $1000 plane ticket to fly to Japan are completely different. How silly of me.
A ticket to fly from Europe to LA is probably at least twice as expensive as a ticket from, say, NY to LA. So it's a pretty big difference...


Even if it was in London some people in the EU couldnt go, the point is there isnt even an option for EU people to maybe go to. Thats the angst, we don't even have the option regardless.
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-05-28 14:46:57
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Self-centered typical arrogant americans.

There is a huge difference between flying over a *** ocean for a FFXI IRL meeting and traveling inside your own country.

Seriously, get real guys. You cry about JP only things, we cry about JP and NA only things.
You seem to be under the impression that EU is one country, and even that the UK is part of it. Perhaps you should *** whether or not you've brought your own brain, before you go speculating on the cranial absenteeism --or not of the Stupid Americans.

Once you have that sorted out, perhaps you can realize that SE is a Japan based company. They don't have an obligation to you or anyone else. Hell, they don't even have to sell you their software. That's a privilege that they've extended to you. Be grateful you have a region in which to play games you like, because there didn't even used to be that and there's nothing dictating that there should be, because everything in life is apparently fair. And you're telling me to get real? Of the two of us it seems I'm the only one living in reality.

They throw fan events for a couple thousand people (we're of course not counting 99% of the Japanese population who won't even be able to attend this -- typical self-centered European), and who's to say they can't? A Japanese company catering to Japanese people... They'll never hear the end of it.

It probably has nothing to do with the fact that of all the "bases" the Japanese is by far their largest, no sir, couldn't be that. Or that being a highly indigenous people they all speak the same language, something Americans can't even attest to these days.

Tell me, how would you manage the ballistics for a EU Vanafest and all 5 of the languages supported by SE Europe? How much would you enjoy "meeting with other players" who only speak French? German? Spanish? How about that dev team interview that you can only listen to with a headset because it's being simulcast into every language of your country? Oh...

Keep bitching, it's a very attractive quality I find in people.

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Typical *** American.
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By Ragnarok.Bador 2012-05-28 14:48:40
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They should do it in Dubai :)
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By Asura.Dajociont 2012-05-28 14:48:53
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man, i wonder what my life would be like if this was something worth complaining about :|
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By Moonwalkerv 2012-05-28 14:49:44
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Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Self-centered typical arrogant americans. There is a huge difference between flying over a *** ocean for a FFXI IRL meeting and traveling inside your own country. Seriously, get real guys. You cry about JP only things, we cry about JP and NA only things.
You seem to be under the impression that EU is one country, and even that the UK is part of it. Perhaps you should *** whether or not you've brought your own brain, before you go speculating on the cranial absenteeism --or not of the Stupid Americans. Once you have that sorted out, perhaps you can realize that SE is a Japan based company. They don't have an obligation to you or anyone else. Hell, they don't even have to sell you their software. That's a privilege that they've extended to you. Be grateful you have a region in which to play games you like, because there didn't even used to be that and there's nothing dictating that there should be, because everything in life is apparently fair. And you're telling me to get real? Of the two of us it seems I'm the only one living in reality. They throw fan events for a couple thousand people (we're of course not counting 99% of the Japanese population who won't even be able to attend this -- typical self-centered European), and who's to say they can't? A Japanese company catering to Japanese people... They'll never hear the end of it. It probably has nothing to do with the fact that of all the "bases" the Japanese is by far their largest, no sir, couldn't be that. Or that being a highly indigenous people they all speak the same language, something Americans can't even attest to these days. Tell me, how would you manage the ballistics for a EU Vanafest and all 5 of the languages supported by SE Europe? How much would you enjoy "meeting with other players" who only speak French? German? Spanish? How about that dev team interview that you can only listen to with a headset because it's being simulcast into every language of your country? Oh... Keep bitching, it's a very attractive quality I find in people. Signed, Typical *** American.

lol wow, you clearly have never been to Europe. English is by far the most common language. The eurovison song contest is held in english and it has 99% of the EU countries in it...singing mostly in english..speaking and voting in english
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-05-28 14:50:05
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Moonwalkerv said: »
Fenrir.Terminus said: »
Asura.Kowen said: »
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
You're right, a $1000 plane ticket to fly across my own country and a $1000 plane ticket to fly to Japan are completely different. How silly of me.
A ticket to fly from Europe to LA is probably at least twice as expensive as a ticket from, say, NY to LA. So it's a pretty big difference...
Probably at least? Is that an exact amount, or just insider airline industry jargon? If getting to Vanafest costs $50, some people won't be able to go, end of the *** story. And this EU vs USA wannabe, childish *** game is absolutely ridiculous. But *** it, right - because since there is a Vanafest SOMEWHERE in this 3.8 MILLION SQUARE MILE country, that MAYBE MIGHT KIND OF get the same ***as the JP one, even though SE hasn't said a word about it, that makes it ok to villify the entire country? You know what - *** all of you. Don't really need the approval of condescending pieces of ***, anyway.


Even if it was in London some people in the EU couldnt go, the point is there isnt even an option for EU people to maybe go to. Thats the angst, we don't even have the option regardless.

Let's play pretend, k?

A guy in Germany cannot afford to fly to LA.
A guy in Florida cannot afford to fly to LA.
A guy in Switzerland can afford to fly to LA.
A girl in New York also can afford to fly to LA.
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By Asura.Kowen 2012-05-28 14:50:13
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Fenrir.Terminus said: »
Probably at least? Is that an exact amount, or just insider airline industry jargon?

Uh, I did a quick search of prices online... London>LA tickets ranged from $1600~1800 while NY>LA tickets were around $700~800.

So yeah, it would obviously vary by airline and exact city, but you most likely would end up paying over twice as much.
 
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-05-28 14:51:01
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And we're talking like someone would fly from Europe to come the the US Vanafest just so they could have the chance for a free mythic? Yeah.
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By Cerberus.Ddbone 2012-05-28 14:51:28
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Meh, so they are afraid that no one is going to go to their stupid convention for the 11 yr old game.

So they added this in, big whoop.

Basically, your cost for a relic is the plane ticket, hotel, price of admission etc.... If you can't afford it, don't piss on people that can.

Being in Canada, that cost for me is like 1500 bucks probably, not worth it for a relic, sorry.

That's how I see it at least.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-28 14:51:58
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RE: all the bitching in this thread

Was there a NA Vanafest announced that I wasn't aware of or something?
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By Moonwalkerv 2012-05-28 14:52:25
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Fenrir.Terminus said: »
Moonwalkerv said: »
Fenrir.Terminus said: »
Asura.Kowen said: »
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
You're right, a $1000 plane ticket to fly across my own country and a $1000 plane ticket to fly to Japan are completely different. How silly of me.
A ticket to fly from Europe to LA is probably at least twice as expensive as a ticket from, say, NY to LA. So it's a pretty big difference...
Even if it was in London some people in the EU couldnt go, the point is there isnt even an option for EU people to maybe go to. Thats the angst, we don't even have the option regardless.
Let's play pretend, k? A guy in Germany cannot afford to fly to LA. A guy in Florida cannot afford to fly to LA. A guy in Switzerland can afford to fly to LA. A girl in New York also can afford to fly to LA. Tomorrow, we work on colors.

you either missed or ignored the part where i said "maybe" as in maybe if it was closer they could maybe go?
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2012-05-28 14:52:39
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Idk how many of you have ever flown before, but a 99 mythic or any ***off that list couldn't get me to sit in a plane for like 14 hours to go from one country to another. Screaming babies, sitting next to a guy that doesn't know how to cover his mouth when he sneezes, bitchy flight attendants, pilots you just KNOW are drunk...
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By Bahamut.Aios 2012-05-28 14:52:58
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If Vanafest was down the block from my house I wouldn't even go.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-05-28 14:54:38
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
RE: all the bitching in this thread

Was there a NA Vanafest announced that I wasn't aware of or something?

Nope.

/popcorn
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-28 14:56:18
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So why are EU people bitching as if they uniquely can't go to Vanafest and then calling Americans stupid for also bitching when they also cannot go to Vanafest?

Doesn't even matter, you have to have a JP POL ID to get in, so even if you flew to Japan, YOU STILL CANNOT GO.

Jesus, you people are *** idiots sometimes.
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By Zeota 2012-05-28 14:58:03
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Sadly most, if not all, Japan-based game companies *** over their foreign users all the time. Lately I've considered not buying from or supporting any Japanese game company ever again. Of course they just happen to make 99% of the games that I enjoy playing.
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By Cerberus.Ddbone 2012-05-28 14:59:36
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Couldn't you just grab a POL ID in JP pretty easily? Buy a pay as you go card and register it to your hotel or an apt or something?

If your going to drop 2k on a trip to vanafest doing some jiggery to get a JP POL ID doesn't really seem like a roadblock... (IE: to the batshit insane)
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-05-28 14:59:48
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Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Self-centered typical arrogant americans.

There is a huge difference between flying over a *** ocean for a FFXI IRL meeting and traveling inside your own country.

Seriously, get real guys. You cry about JP only things, we cry about JP and NA only things.
WALL-O-TEXT

Typical Ignorant Person.
Wow, please tell me how people do to gather to different concerts when they are in a "EU" country where nothing happens. I said concert, I could add any video game convention. Hellfest must be one of a boring event for anyone speaking only Italian, I'm sure.

Are you aware that it costs between 20 and 40$ to fly from any "EU" (including UK, ofc) country to another? While not everyone can pay that, it is still on a complete different scale than a cross continent flight.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm English. Well, I'm not, sorry.

Enough? Enough.

The rest of the wall of text is just laughable, you wasted your time there.

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Even if it was in London some people in the EU couldnt go, the point is there isnt even an option for EU people to maybe go to. Thats the angst, we don't even have the option regardless.
Exactly.

Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Doesn't even matter, you have to have a JP POL ID to get in, so even if you flew to Japan, YOU STILL CANNOT GO.

Jesus, you people are *** idiots sometimes.
It's not entirely true, you can easily enter this specific Vanafest without having a POL ID at all, much less a Japanese only one.

You had to be an active FFXI player to attend the FFXI concert back in November, yes, this is a completely different event.
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By Asura.Ina 2012-05-28 15:02:18
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Cerberus.Ddbone said: »
Couldn't you just grab a POL ID in JP pretty easily? Buy a pay as you go card and register it to your hotel or an apt or something?

If your going to drop 2k on a trip to vanafest doing some jiggery to get a JP POL ID doesn't really seem like a roadblock... (IE: to the batshit insane)
It would be a safe assumption that the codes they are selling would be linked to the JP ID you used to get it, or only function with a JP ID.
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-05-28 15:04:39
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Moonwalkerv said: »
Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
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Self-centered typical arrogant americans. There is a huge difference between flying over a *** ocean for a FFXI IRL meeting and traveling inside your own country. Seriously, get real guys. You cry about JP only things, we cry about JP and NA only things.
You seem to be under the impression that EU is one country, and even that the UK is part of it. Perhaps you should *** whether or not you've brought your own brain, before you go speculating on the cranial absenteeism --or not of the Stupid Americans. Once you have that sorted out, perhaps you can realize that SE is a Japan based company. They don't have an obligation to you or anyone else. Hell, they don't even have to sell you their software. That's a privilege that they've extended to you. Be grateful you have a region in which to play games you like, because there didn't even used to be that and there's nothing dictating that there should be, because everything in life is apparently fair. And you're telling me to get real? Of the two of us it seems I'm the only one living in reality. They throw fan events for a couple thousand people (we're of course not counting 99% of the Japanese population who won't even be able to attend this -- typical self-centered European), and who's to say they can't? A Japanese company catering to Japanese people... They'll never hear the end of it. It probably has nothing to do with the fact that of all the "bases" the Japanese is by far their largest, no sir, couldn't be that. Or that being a highly indigenous people they all speak the same language, something Americans can't even attest to these days. Tell me, how would you manage the ballistics for a EU Vanafest and all 5 of the languages supported by SE Europe? How much would you enjoy "meeting with other players" who only speak French? German? Spanish? How about that dev team interview that you can only listen to with a headset because it's being simulcast into every language of your country? Oh... Keep bitching, it's a very attractive quality I find in people. Signed, Typical *** American.

lol wow, you clearly have never been to Europe. English is by far the most common language. The eurovison song contest is held in english and it has 99% of the EU countries in it...singing mostly in english..speaking and voting in english
Considering I'm a dual citizen of an EU country, I'd say I've spent my fair share of time in Europe. Enough to know the average person in a country where English isn't an official language does not speak it, and can probably only get the gist of what you're saying.

I'm sorry if your Tour Guide misled you into believing "the EU" is an English friendly bilingual utopia. Perhaps next time you should put non-tourist traps on your agenda.
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