Nerf BRD

SE should really nerf brd. Pugs won't have to wait so long, nor will other players have to deal with the premadonna's and their god damn attitude problems.

Bold Stance, lets see how it plays out!

Dual boxing a brd mule, problem solved.

my kneejerk reaction for anyone calling for a NERF is apathetic at best.

Did you know that: "prima donna" is Italian for "first woman", the leading lady of an opera production.

The male "primo uomo" is almost never used in English.

It's haste. Not bard.

Bard is nothing special, but you must have 2 party slots dedicated to hasting. (and you can't just indi-haste+haste cause then you need 2 geos)

If rdm got haste3 bard would vanish (in melee/shout content)

Should just delete BRD. And COR.

^^

delete all buff jobs so we can play like it's 2008 again

Well, let me counter this by saying that the last time BRD wasn't so hot, folks were calling for GEO nerfs. So, SE began making content that nerfed the power of bubbles. We're always going to need buffs from something, whether it be BRD GEO RDM or COR. If anything they should make a job like GEO stronger so it can almost replace a BRD in some situations without a big hit in kill speed. While we're at it, give RDM Haste 3 and a way to give the party extra accuracy/attack (outside of enfeebling the enemy), so then you can do exemplar with RDM+GEO and do just fine. Oh! But then people will want SE to nerf those jobs. The vicious cycle continues.

PS: But I fully understand the entitlement of the minority of those playing a job like BRD. "We're not getting x points per hour??? This party sucks. Bye!"

4+ Songs really made BRD a must have. Its not just haste. Its also a job that needs REMA+P soon.

I wouldn't use a bard at all if I could get full time cap haste without them or 2 geos. Outside of "needing" a carol.

You have to have haste/2 and indi/march there's no other option (be a blue, gross) That's the bottleneck. Nothing else matters.

Absolutely. Other jobs would need some substantial boosts and possibly new spells to get somewhat near BRD, and even then BRD will probably still be favoured, but at least the alternative of not having one isn't as damaging.

Nerfed geo so sure, nerf brd. Nerf Cor too while you're at it.

Then no one does any dmg and everyone is miserable together.

Problem solved.

Its usually most effective to have 2 party slots capping magical haste, because those 2 jobs can do other things as well.. but saying you MUST have 2 party slots dedicated to haste is exaggerating.

What do you mean that you cannot use indi-haste +haste? Geo can cap party haste solo using /whm or /rdm
you mean the geo should be doing other spells instead? Not really. Maybe they should, but maybe they shouldn't and maybe geo putting up haste for everyone is best available option. Its certainly viable.

Brd can cap party haste with songs or combo of songs and spells.

Blu can cap it own haste so situationally that may be the only one that needs it.

Drk/sam cannot quite cap its own haste, but can get by w/ less than 2 jobs to cap haste.

Bst can also give itself 25% magical haste, so a single other source of magical haste can help cap it.

drg and sam with /drk could also cap haste with less than capped magical haste

There may be other examples... but really 2 job slots for haste is really an exaggeration.

Slightly off topic, but a lot of the reason brd is so favored is because the buffs it offers are all unique buffs.

Lets look at MP restoration: you have auto refresh which you can stack as much as you can find, there's refresh, ballad and sublimation.

For those that SCH or /SCH, you're going to have to pick between refresh or using sublimation, but ballad stacks with both. Because of this, BRD is the only way to keep a full uptime on a mp restoring effect. geo bubbles also stack, but as has already been stated, geo is nerfed in most end game content, so I'm not considering it for the sake of this argument. The simplest fix would be to allow both sublimation and refresh to stack, making brd's monopoly on refresh less. This wouldn't in any way nerf the job but would peel back some of its necessity.

They should give cor a 3rd roll, they should give some kind of spell that offers magic accuracy other then klimaform which is a laughably small buff for the magic acc check of end game mobs. The reality is that SE has its favorite jobs, and mages tend not to make that list, so they will continue to shift the game in a direction that benefits melee strats, and at the end of the day, BRD has a lot to offer for melee buffs.

A job giving itself haste (hasso/samba/wyvern/last resort), and a 2nd job adding haste to it = two jobs hasting. The only one is blue that can do it itself. And not full time.

"two sources of haste" if you insist on being anal about it.

Bard is that unique 2nd source that's the whole point. Geo "can" but you need(want) a second geo. You "could" do blitzers roll. Then you want a second cor. It all falls on haste.

*Maybe you could put on every piece of dw+ in the game and need no hastes on nin. You got me.

Yeah, *** COR. Delete COR and give RNG some buffs :p

hey hey hey......if I gotta buff that means less pewpew.....

He said premadonna though, so you're looking at the musical industry before she came along.

Bards are now Cher.

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The world will continue to turn, and mobs will continue to die without that Indi-Fury. Or considering how enfeebling bubbles like Frailty are nerfed in any serious content any more, without that Geo-Frailty. You don't "need" a 2nd GEO in 6man content. You probably don't even "want" one there. I get your point, but when pushed to its extreme that point falls apart.

And all my effort to pimp up my mule?

It will go to waste only so gimpy tarutarus “main THF” can stab whatever the ***without a care in the world???

Anywhere frailty is nerfed you still want it.

The best solution would be to expand the utility offered by other jobs so that you could mix and match less restrictively. Make buffs mutually exclusive where needed so as not to trivialize content.

Like, DNC Sambas could be buffed and expanded upon (it's sad no new ones were ever added). BST pet buffs could extend to the party (and call beast timer reduced to be more flexible). Adloquium for SCH could be significantly buffed and allowed to scale with enhancing skill.

A job could be given another STP buff that's mutually exclusive with Sam Roll.

I dunno, there's a ton of potential to shake up the meta. None of it'll ever happen though because SE just isn't interested.

what about Erratic flutter and Mighty Guard? is that haste cap?

or.....more people could level and gear BRD. Results in rotating who gets "stuck" on the job, reducing burnout (trust me, I know all about BRD sucking one's soul out- check out the dirt in Mhaura on Leviathan for proof) and sharing the load. But no- instead triboxers would rather task one of their mules to that role so they can just be ALL THE DEEPS in group content.

It is. Unbridled/Diffusion have downtime, even with rd and wc. That's why embrava isn't brought up either.

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Get rid of Corsair's Roll and just give us all perma boosted XP.

Its not exactly an easy job to Gear quickly. Mules have REMA so a human is expected to have them. I don't mind playing BRD but I'm not making a Carn and people start dry heaving when they get my 9:xx minute songs.