Sea Torques For Sale

Unless your torque has agi (for ranged attacks, and my argument was on marksmanship not hope torque), or dex (for melee attacks) you have 7 attack vs 3-4 acc.

Let's say you're on a job like Sam. Sam's damage is split up 30% DoT 70% WS
damage approximately.

The 3-4 acc applies to ALL of your damage

The str/attack only applies to 30% of your damage.

When you TP in str/attack they just add damage to your hit, only add to your DoT
When you TP in acc, it increases your DoT AND your ws damage, because you land more hits, gain more TP and will WS more times. For the torques they are better for DoT yes, but your damage isn't DoT only. The only way torques w/o the exceptions (dex+ and agi+ torques for extra acc/racc) will beat pcc in uncapped acc, is if you only use DoT and never WS at all.

Korpg: You would be correct for sufficiently high accuracy, but consider that accuracy also affects the WS portion of your DoT while the the attack from a torque does not. Thus, you see the full benefit of the acc as long as you don't cap early, but the value of attack in TP phase is reduced when considering your overall DoT.

I mean, come on now, not including the stat bonus, the +6.3 (considering that 1 skill = .9 acc and attack after skill 200) means that you are really getting a total bonus of +12.6 acc/att. You should realized (since people are quoting math here) that +12.6 > +10.

1ATK =/= 1ACC; it's more-so 2:1 most of the time, even 3:1 to further extents, just because attack during the TP phase really is that lacklustering, all the way until you're capping accuracy on something.

So in reality, for a bulk number on statistics (as much as they shouldn't be used ever), you're looking at about 3.5 via the attack, and 6.3 via the accuracy... though decimals shouldn't really count for this (they should be dropped).

9.7 vs 10, hm.

And even then, that's with the 2:1 ratio; 3:1 crushes torque even further, and with one-handed weapons, you can bet your rear 3:1 will be a lot more common.

"1 set = TP in. Meaning you only use this set to TP in.
1 set = WS in. Meaning you only use this set to WS in.

So, if you TP in Sea Torque (like most people with them do) and WS in Sea Gorget (like most people with them do) then wouldn't you, you know, TP only in the Torque?"

Because we're only looking at TP

Let's say we TP in PCC and WS in Gorget
Now
Let's say we TP in Torque and WS in Gorget.

When you TP in ACC it helps ALL of your damage, not just your DoT because the extra TP you get indirectly increases your WS dmg because you gain more tp.

When you TP in attack/str, it ONLY helps your DoT, improves your dmg/hit but does nothing to help how often you WS

You are still missing the point. You are still showing thought that skill only increases attack.

Yes, you will lose 3.7 accuracy over this. BUT if you already at capped accuracy, that 3.7 accuracy will be null. Having a PCC won't do anything for you if you can get capped 95% accuracy by Torque. So, whats wrong with having +6.3 (at the minimum, you can add on another 3 attack from the STR also) additional attack also? You might be surprised how much of an increase in total DoT you will have from an increase in attack.

If I'm correct about this, and I do believe I am.

Yes, you do get acc and attack, but in the end when comparing pcc to torque, you get
3-4 acc vs 7 attack.

3-4 acc > 7 attack, provided your acc is not capped

Acc helps ALL of your damage
Attack/str ONLY helps your DoT.

Why do you guys think its so *** hard to cap accuracy?

Seriously, its got to be the easiest thing to do.

Because not every job can do it and no job can cap accuracy on every mob in the game. Also, other swaps may be more favorable.

EDIT: I take that back, for all I know RNG can and does. No melee job*