Sea Torques For Sale
Sea torques for sale
Currently we're selling Hope, Justice, and Temperance. Prudence is also available. Others are soon to become available but if you make an outstanding offer we might just sell to you before we keep for members(again, depending on offer). Weapons are also up for grabs, and rather cheap for the most. Shoot me a tell in game on Busey, and we'll discuss pricing.. I'm usually around, if not, just try me again later.
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Before anyone shells out millions for a torque, keep in mind that Ancient torque as well as PCC beat pretty much all the torques in uncapped acc situations EXCEPT love torque (where the dex makes up for the acc loss) and hope torque (where the agi makes up for the acc loss for ranged attacks)
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Vegetto said:
Before anyone shells out millions for a torque, keep in mind that Ancient torque as well as PCC beat pretty much all the torques in uncapped acc situations EXCEPT love torque (where the dex makes up for the acc loss) and hope torque (where the agi makes up for the acc loss for ranged attacks)
LOL i'd hate to play battleship with you because you *** peoples boat so much around here.
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Don't start please.
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Not sure who that was directed towards, but I was just giving my honest opinion on the torques, which I think someone who is about to shell out millions would want to know before actually doing so. If it was directed towards one of the other posts, then sorry, but yea just giving my stance here.
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It was probably directed at the post that was removed. I am sure there is going to be people who come in here and rumble/grumble about "if you cant farm it yourself you shouldnt be allowed to buy it" blah blah blah...
If you have the gil and someone willing to sell... its your choice. good luck on the sell.
If you have the gil and someone willing to sell... its your choice. good luck on the sell.
Skill increases both accuracy and attack. I'd have to recheck FFXIcalculator, but the optimal setup was torque for TP and gorget for WS for 75 Ninja.
Actually it was mine and the poster above me. I removed my post to be polite.
This merc'ing is going to get ridiculous soon.
Ya it's easier to just buy the stuff, but when everyone has what they want then what's next?
This merc'ing is going to get ridiculous soon.
Ya it's easier to just buy the stuff, but when everyone has what they want then what's next?
Rikiyame said:
the optimal setup was torque for TP and gorget for WS for every job.
Fixed.
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Rikiyame said:
Skill increases both accuracy and attack. I'd have to recheck FFXIcalculator, but the optimal setup was torque for TP and gorget for WS for 75 Ninja.
Vegetto said:
Before anyone shells out millions for a torque, keep in mind that Ancient torque as well as PCC beat pretty much all the torques in uncapped acc situations EXCEPT love torque (where the dex makes up for the acc loss) and hope torque (where the agi makes up for the acc loss for ranged attacks)
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That, and the INT on Prudence for not-melee things (see: BLM).
Tbest said:
Rikiyame said:
Skill increases both accuracy and attack. I'd have to recheck FFXIcalculator, but the optimal setup was torque for TP and gorget for WS for 75 Ninja.
6.3, but will also count as either 6 or 7 acc (always rounds down but if you have .7 .8 or .9 before adding the .3, you'll hit the 7th acc, if not it rounds down to 6)
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Vegetto said:
Tbest said:
Rikiyame said:
Skill increases both accuracy and attack. I'd have to recheck FFXIcalculator, but the optimal setup was torque for TP and gorget for WS for 75 Ninja.
6.3, but will also count as either 6 or 7 acc (always rounds down but if you have .7 .8 or .9 before adding the .3, you'll hit the 7th acc, if not it rounds down to 6)
Sagittario said:
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thank you for a valid contribution! Math is fun!
Wait, so Sea Torques are actually real? After more than a year of Sea, I had begun to believe that they didn't really exist ...
Alyria said:
Don't start please.
/starts
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Rikiyame said:
Skill increases both accuracy and attack. I'd have to recheck FFXIcalculator, but the optimal setup was torque for TP and gorget for WS for 75 Ninja.
When you cap accuracy with the Hope Torque, yes. If you don't reach 95% accuracy with it equipped, PCC/Ancient Torque will outperform it. As stated above, DRG will have higher accuracy with Love Torque than with PCC and THF, RNG and COR should be sufficiently high ACC with their respective Torques that the 7 Attack (and in RNG and COR's case, 5 AGI) will bring them even. If hitrate is low, PCC pulls ahead again.
Dasva said:
Alyria said:
Don't start please.
/starts
-throws a bar stool at Dasva-
you know, coz your a taru :3
Hey Veg, if the extra acc on PCC beats out the att on torques, how come you use faith torque?
Is it because your hit rate is good enough or?
Is it because your hit rate is good enough or?
Well, I main pizza+1 almost everywhere, but, when acc is an issue, I always drop forager to go to cuchulain and faith torque to go to PCA (Amulet ftw). Also in colibri parties, where I can't eat pizza, I go for Pca/Cuch w/ focus down, but when focus is up I go back to forager/faith torque.
Aye, don't take what we're saying as "Sea Torques are bad." They're quite good, just be aware of when to use them and don't sell your PCC to buy one.
And PPC and Ancient torque cost how much...? Obviously I assume anyone willing to fork out a few mil to buy these torques would have enough common sense to research what they're buying.
You'd be surprised. Also, you don't necessarily have to buy them.
I full time Faith Torque on RNG. 8/8 Marksmanship merits and obv. capped. I have done MANY parsings with RNG, including Kyudogi Vs. Osode for AGI based ***, etc. Faith Torque beats Peacock Charm, and Kyudogi very narrowly beat Osode for Marksmanship. Definitely not 2mil's worth difference, though (assuming you get Osode for free through a Sky LS.)
I would happily pay for a Hope Torque for use with Archery as well.
Edit: Forgot to mention I want to fiddle around with Peacock Charm and Hope Torque as well, although I doubt Hope Torque will underperform because of the AGI.
PS. I didn't buy my Faith Torque... But I would understand why people would buy Sea Torques.
I would happily pay for a Hope Torque for use with Archery as well.
Edit: Forgot to mention I want to fiddle around with Peacock Charm and Hope Torque as well, although I doubt Hope Torque will underperform because of the AGI.
PS. I didn't buy my Faith Torque... But I would understand why people would buy Sea Torques.
How does Kyudogi beat marksmanship?
2 rattack 2 racc vs 10 str 10 agi
10 str gives 5 rattack 10 agi gives 5 racc
2 rattack 2 racc vs +5 fstr2 (+5 dmg rating)
I'm no ranger, but I do understand the mechanics. I don't see how 2 rattack 2 racc would ever dream of beating +5 DMG
2 rattack 2 racc vs 10 str 10 agi
10 str gives 5 rattack 10 agi gives 5 racc
2 rattack 2 racc vs +5 fstr2 (+5 dmg rating)
I'm no ranger, but I do understand the mechanics. I don't see how 2 rattack 2 racc would ever dream of beating +5 DMG
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Vegetto said:
How does Kyudogi beat marksmanship?
2 rattack 2 racc vs 10 str 10 agi
10 str gives 5 rattack 10 agi gives 5 racc
2 rattack 2 racc vs +5 fstr2 (+5 dmg rating)
I'm no ranger, but I do understand the mechanics. I don't see how 2 rattack 2 racc would ever dream of beating +5 DMG
2 rattack 2 racc vs 10 str 10 agi
10 str gives 5 rattack 10 agi gives 5 racc
2 rattack 2 racc vs +5 fstr2 (+5 dmg rating)
I'm no ranger, but I do understand the mechanics. I don't see how 2 rattack 2 racc would ever dream of beating +5 DMG
The formulas for ranged attacks are not the same as melee attacks. Most specifically, STR is calculated differently. I will post the parses when I get a chance, but it's 3am at the moment and I'm not staying up until 4am sifting through them just to prove a point.
The difference was under 1%, so it's not even worth considering.
PS. Kyudogi is 7 Ranged Accuracy and 7 Ranged Attack, not 2.
"Most specifically, STR is calculated differently"
Which is why I said 5 fstr2 rather than 2-3 Fstr. it takes 4 str to raise your fstr by 1 and it takes 2 str to raise your Fstr2 by 1
"PS. Kyudogi is 7 Ranged Accuracy and 7 Ranged Attack, not 2."
10 str gives 5 ranged attack, 10 agi gives 5 racc
Going from +5 to +7 is a +2 increase.
I was saying +2 in comparison to osode and then osode having +5 fstr 2 in comparison to the 2 attack and 2 acc
Which is why I said 5 fstr2 rather than 2-3 Fstr. it takes 4 str to raise your fstr by 1 and it takes 2 str to raise your Fstr2 by 1
"PS. Kyudogi is 7 Ranged Accuracy and 7 Ranged Attack, not 2."
10 str gives 5 ranged attack, 10 agi gives 5 racc
Going from +5 to +7 is a +2 increase.
I was saying +2 in comparison to osode and then osode having +5 fstr 2 in comparison to the 2 attack and 2 acc
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