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By Felgarr 2019-12-04 19:50:49
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Asura.Meliorah said: »
With homepoints or superwarp you dont need to unlock ***, just go where you want. You can even go if you domt have the gil, cruoe, adoulin ***or whatever, it'll flow to negative and still let you go. Nothing is in place to flag your account to ban you if you're lv.1 fresh and you jump to the hp at inner rakaznar.

you are playing this game wrong if you start a new character as an alt and think the first thing you should do is story missions while leveling LOL.

I just want to point out the obvious to the oblivious. Using allwarps to enter a zone you don't normally have access to, is a great to get banned (or auto-banned).
 
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-12-04 20:12:48
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They never don't know. But they also never care. Distinguishable difference.
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By Josiahafk 2019-12-04 20:38:38
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A level 1 could also just straight up be walked legit to inner rak within like 60 minutes of being created too, on vanilla if they ride a tractor.

so it's not like that would be some amazing feat worth SE's time etc
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By Odin.Senaki 2019-12-04 21:33:02
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A level 1 could also just straight up be walked legit to inner rak within like 60 minutes of being created too, on vanilla if they ride a tractor.

so it's not like that would be some amazing feat worth SE's time etc

Without using third party tools, you would have to hit lvl 30 to do so first. I'd imagine the walk, without dying, to be a little annoying given survival skill quests. I'd estimate 5 hours if you focused it.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-12-04 21:34:09
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There's nothing level gated. You pay a mil to go to adoulin at level 1 and you walk there. Sneak oil and prism powder. Escort yourself through any reives that aren't botted down on the way.
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By Josiahafk 2019-12-04 21:37:58
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You don’t need to pay, only takes 5 minutes to walk into yug grotto from sandoria and touch the fount to warp to adoulin free.
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By Bismarck.Josiahflaming 2019-12-04 21:44:48
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Odin.Senaki said: »
Josiahafk said: »
A level 1 could also just straight up be walked legit to inner rak within like 60 minutes of being created too, on vanilla if they ride a tractor.

so it's not like that would be some amazing feat worth SE's time etc

Without using third party tools, you would have to hit lvl 30 to do so first. I'd imagine the walk, without dying, to be a little annoying given survival skill quests. I'd estimate 5 hours if you focused it.
That why I included riding tractors up ledges to skip all the required skills, makes the path very short; Don’t even need to enter yorcia, morimar, doh, moh, foret, or yahse to get to inner Rak.
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By Shichishito 2019-12-05 02:33:39
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You payin' me? I don't work for free son.
i'd pay for the t-shirt print.
are we having a deal or what?
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By Draylo 2019-12-05 02:44:26
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I need my jeuno christmas music
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-12-05 03:22:53
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Nah son. I'm not trying to give up my anonymity and you wouldn't catch me dead at an ffxi event even for money (Well not the kind of money any of you have at least. I'm a *** but not a cheap one). I won't even admit I played the game for a while if you met me.

If you want to hire some dude to role play and crowd fund it I'll throw some loot on it.
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By Shichishito 2019-12-05 03:59:46
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this board is public and the idea is out in the open, anyone could go ahead and print a shirt for that event, doesn't necessarily mean its you. if you are really concerned you could wear a mask.

i mean your bots keep farming wether you are home or not so its not like you'd lose a lot of income i suppose. but yeah, i already figured you'd backtrack, it would be a pretty ballsy move.
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By Asura.Frod 2019-12-05 05:11:11
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IF this ***is real, and i can get a ticket. Totes gonna show up in a SMN BURN ALL THE THINGS. shirt.
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By Felgarr 2019-12-05 05:28:14
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Josiahafk said: »
A level 1 could also just straight up be walked legit to inner rak within like 60 minutes of being created too, on vanilla if they ride a tractor.

so it's not like that would be some amazing feat worth SE's time etc

I'm genuinely curious, how legit are we talking?

1.) Level 1 makes it to Jeuno, then SoA with 1M gil KI
2.) Level 1 char gets Bayld, does 1 WKR, gets KI to use Woh/Doh/Moh Gates zone2 teleporter.
3.) Level 1 walks through Gates zone2 to transporter to Inner Rakaznar?

I was being terse, but is that it? Can they make it to Outer Rakaznar from Inner Rakznar, at that point?

Am I missing anything else?
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By Odin.Senaki 2019-12-05 05:31:13
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Felgarr said: »
Josiahafk said: »
A level 1 could also just straight up be walked legit to inner rak within like 60 minutes of being created too, on vanilla if they ride a tractor.

so it's not like that would be some amazing feat worth SE's time etc

I'm genuinely curious, how legit are we talking?

1.) Level 1 makes it to Jeuno, then SoA with 1M gil KI
2.) Level 1 char gets Bayld, does 1 WKR, gets KI to use Woh/Doh/Moh Gates zone2 teleporter.
3.) Level 1 walks through Gates zone2 to transporter to Inner Rakaznar?

I was being terse, but is that it? Can they make it to Outer Rakaznar from Inner Rakznar, at that point?

Am I missing anything else?

I want to see him do it in 60 mins without funding from a high level, someone walking him through the zone, nor using third-party options.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2019-12-05 05:32:12
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fonewear said: »

I don't like doing this and you probably don't like me doing this either, but every time someone posts a picture of computers using computers I am required to appear and remind everyone that a physical interface between electronics would be massively inefficient.

More sci-fi horror movies should center on boring server farms.

*humans running from their smarthouses after they smell gas because they know the program is trying to kill them*
*cut to a Minnesota server farm where a single led is unnecessarily blinking on a rack of servers*
*cut back to human house as it ignites*
*server keeps blinking noiselessly*
*surviving humans are run over by self driving cars*
*led blinks in Minnesota*

~fin~
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By Felgarr 2019-12-05 05:35:42
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Odin.Senaki said: »
Felgarr said: »
Josiahafk said: »
A level 1 could also just straight up be walked legit to inner rak within like 60 minutes of being created too, on vanilla if they ride a tractor.

so it's not like that would be some amazing feat worth SE's time etc

I'm genuinely curious, how legit are we talking?

1.) Level 1 makes it to Jeuno, then SoA with 1M gil KI
2.) Level 1 char gets Bayld, does 1 WKR, gets KI to use Woh/Doh/Moh Gates zone2 teleporter.
3.) Level 1 walks through Gates zone2 to transporter to Inner Rakaznar?

I was being terse, but is that it? Can they make it to Outer Rakaznar from Inner Rakznar, at that point?

Am I missing anything else?

I want to see him do it in 60 mins without funding from a high level, someone walking him through the zone, nor using third-party options.

Stop, that's not the point. I wanted to know if it was possible within the normal constraints of the game (i.e. a high-level player tractoring or giving gil is OK). I'd put a limit on tools like flee-hacks and all warps. Basically, I was curious, if with the help of another player, could a level 1 legitimately make this trip.
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By Odin.Senaki 2019-12-05 05:44:41
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Felgarr said: »
Odin.Senaki said: »
Felgarr said: »
Josiahafk said: »
A level 1 could also just straight up be walked legit to inner rak within like 60 minutes of being created too, on vanilla if they ride a tractor.

so it's not like that would be some amazing feat worth SE's time etc

I'm genuinely curious, how legit are we talking?

1.) Level 1 makes it to Jeuno, then SoA with 1M gil KI
2.) Level 1 char gets Bayld, does 1 WKR, gets KI to use Woh/Doh/Moh Gates zone2 teleporter.
3.) Level 1 walks through Gates zone2 to transporter to Inner Rakaznar?

I was being terse, but is that it? Can they make it to Outer Rakaznar from Inner Rakznar, at that point?

Am I missing anything else?

I want to see him do it in 60 mins without funding from a high level, someone walking him through the zone, nor using third-party options.

Stop, that's not the point. I wanted to know if it was possible within the normal constraints of the game (i.e. a high-level player tractoring or giving gil is OK). I'd put a limit on tools like flee-hacks and all warps. Basically, I was curious, if with the help of another player, could a level 1 legitimately make this trip.

Ah, I see. I have no doubt that the trip is doable. I'm not convinced it can be done in 60 minutes though.
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By Bismarck.Josiahflaming 2019-12-05 09:33:35
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Felgarr said: »
Josiahafk said: »
A level 1 could also just straight up be walked legit to inner rak within like 60 minutes of being created too, on vanilla if they ride a tractor.

so it's not like that would be some amazing feat worth SE's time etc

I'm genuinely curious, how legit are we talking?

1.) Level 1 makes it to Jeuno, then SoA with 1M gil KI
2.) Level 1 char gets Bayld, does 1 WKR, gets KI to use Woh/Doh/Moh Gates zone2 teleporter.
3.) Level 1 walks through Gates zone2 to transporter to Inner Rakaznar?

I was being terse, but is that it? Can they make it to Outer Rakaznar from Inner Rakznar, at that point?

Am I missing anything else?
1. High lvl char (preferably blm/whm) preps for the trip. Buying sneak/invis powders, sandoria grapes, hermes quenchers etc from npcs)
2. Sandoria mule is made, given the items, pops all the food based vanaversary and relevant Roe, unlocks unity warping, warps to Batalia downs, enters jeuno, activates adoulin quest.
3. Mule warps back to sandoria, runs to yugut grotto, touches the fount and then warps back to jeuno
4. Mule activates adoulin CS, appearing in ceizak and warping back to lower jeuno.
5. Mule uses jeuno waypoint to warp straight to adoulin and touches a homepoint.
6. Mule runs south to sih gates (with blm/whm 5 -ja nuking any reives dead in a few seconds en route) and then runs into cirdas cavern.
7. Mule and blm run through cirdas north to woh gates cliff, tractoring mule up the cliff
8. In woh gates, repeat 7 at the cliff and zone into kamir drifts.
9. This now becomes a same old run through the zones to inner rak, with any main job doing well just killing reives as they run. Can always just give the mule a scapegoat or two so you don’t even have to sub whm anymore for peace of mind.

The last step would definitely make or break this run if the person didn’t know the zones well.
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By Felgarr 2019-12-05 09:49:45
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Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
Felgarr said: »
Josiahafk said: »
A level 1 could also just straight up be walked legit to inner rak within like 60 minutes of being created too, on vanilla if they ride a tractor.

so it's not like that would be some amazing feat worth SE's time etc

I'm genuinely curious, how legit are we talking?

1.) Level 1 makes it to Jeuno, then SoA with 1M gil KI
2.) Level 1 char gets Bayld, does 1 WKR, gets KI to use Woh/Doh/Moh Gates zone2 teleporter.
3.) Level 1 walks through Gates zone2 to transporter to Inner Rakaznar?

I was being terse, but is that it? Can they make it to Outer Rakaznar from Inner Rakznar, at that point?

Am I missing anything else?
1. High lvl char (preferably blm/whm) preps for the trip. Buying sneak/invis powders, sandoria grapes, hermes quenchers etc from npcs)
2. Sandoria mule is made, given the items, pops all the food based vanaversary and relevant Roe, unlocks unity warping, warps to Batalia downs, enters jeuno, activates adoulin quest.
3. Mule warps back to sandoria, runs to yugut grotto, touches the fount and then warps back to jeuno
4. Mule activates adoulin CS, appearing in ceizak and warping back to lower jeuno.
5. Mule uses jeuno waypoint to warp straight to adoulin and touches a homepoint.
6. Mule runs south to sih gates (with blm/whm 5 -ja nuking any reives dead in a few seconds en route) and then runs into cirdas cavern.
7. Mule and blm run through cirdas north to woh gates cliff, tractoring mule up the cliff
8. In woh gates, repeat 7 at the cliff and zone into kamir drifts.
9. This now becomes a same old run through the zones to inner rak, with any main job doing well just killing reives as they run. Can always just give the mule a scapegoat or two so you don’t even have to sub whm anymore for peace of mind.

The last step would definitely make or break this run if the person didn’t know the zones well.


Ok so I assume you misspoke when you originally said "Inner Raz"? :/
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By fonewear 2019-12-05 10:50:47
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Thank God we have bots so we can skip all this stupid ***you guys are talking about.
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By Pantafernando 2019-12-05 11:41:27
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The oposite.

Because there are bots they have time to spam in ffxiah
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By Bismarck.Josiahflaming 2019-12-06 08:46:10
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Felgarr said: »
Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
Felgarr said: »
Josiahafk said: »
A level 1 could also just straight up be walked legit to inner rak within like 60 minutes of being created too, on vanilla if they ride a tractor.

so it's not like that would be some amazing feat worth SE's time etc

I'm genuinely curious, how legit are we talking?

1.) Level 1 makes it to Jeuno, then SoA with 1M gil KI
2.) Level 1 char gets Bayld, does 1 WKR, gets KI to use Woh/Doh/Moh Gates zone2 teleporter.
3.) Level 1 walks through Gates zone2 to transporter to Inner Rakaznar?

I was being terse, but is that it? Can they make it to Outer Rakaznar from Inner Rakznar, at that point?

Am I missing anything else?
1. High lvl char (preferably blm/whm) preps for the trip. Buying sneak/invis powders, sandoria grapes, hermes quenchers etc from npcs)
2. Sandoria mule is made, given the items, pops all the food based vanaversary and relevant Roe, unlocks unity warping, warps to Batalia downs, enters jeuno, activates adoulin quest.
3. Mule warps back to sandoria, runs to yugut grotto, touches the fount and then warps back to jeuno
4. Mule activates adoulin CS, appearing in ceizak and warping back to lower jeuno.
5. Mule uses jeuno waypoint to warp straight to adoulin and touches a homepoint.
6. Mule runs south to sih gates (with blm/whm 5 -ja nuking any reives dead in a few seconds en route) and then runs into cirdas cavern.
7. Mule and blm run through cirdas north to woh gates cliff, tractoring mule up the cliff
8. In woh gates, repeat 7 at the cliff and zone into kamir drifts.
9. This now becomes a same old run through the zones to inner rak, with any main job doing well just killing reives as they run. Can always just give the mule a scapegoat or two so you don’t even have to sub whm anymore for peace of mind.

The last step would definitely make or break this run if the person didn’t know the zones well.


Ok so I assume you misspoke when you originally said "Inner Raz"? :/
Huh?
Both posts refer to inner raz and that’s the final step of the run above.
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By Asura.Vanixim 2019-12-06 14:19:46
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Nah son. I'm not trying to give up my anonymity and you wouldn't catch me dead at an ffxi event even for money (Well not the kind of money any of you have at least. I'm a *** but not a cheap one). I won't even admit I played the game for a while if you met me.

If you want to hire some dude to role play and crowd fund it I'll throw some loot on it.

Long time forum lurker here. Would first like to state my appreciation for the Windower devs and people that post helpful information about FFXI before I slingshot Eiryl some attention like how his mama used to do with his food: thank you. You guys make playing FFXI fun!

I am totally fine with you (Eiryl) humble-bragging about passive income and such, but you're absolutely disillusioned if you think you have the biggest wallet around, and then trying to call people out on that. There's plenty of Ivy-league educated, F/X day-trading, investment-banker/doctor/lawyer types here that make plenty more than you ever will in your entire life. Hell, I'd bet that my residual income would make your side trick (and other side whatevers you may have going on) look like pennies to the dollar. To some, your army of bots and the rinky-dink amount of money you make from that is like bragging to C-suite execs about going to French Laundry and ordering the most expensive entree: it's laughable. So stop while you're ahead man. Also, who would want you at a fan event? The only reason the previous poster suggested that you go is so that people will know who to **** on, not because you're some likable local celebrity.

Anyways, carry on with your vast wealth from RMT. /lol
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By Draylo 2019-12-06 14:26:26
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I still don't know when it became "cool" to look like an RMT, but most people play this game for fun. While I'm sure some people have made an okay amount of profit, the majority are here to play it like the game it is. People like him saying you need to sell or you waste time of your life by not taking advantage of it, just seems sad. As if anyone profits when they watch TV, you gotta seek entertainment somehow and not be money focused 24/7. There are plenty of successful people that play this game, he is just a very toxic person.
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By geigei 2019-12-06 14:26:52
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Oh no.
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By Odin.Slore 2019-12-06 15:01:19
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Why do so many use sock accounts? If you're going to call someone out man up and do it on your main.

Why do you guys give a damn what he does? Like seriously he's livin rent free in your heads like 24/7 it seems. So hes rmt..who gives a ***. It doesn't hamper your play at all you guys just sounding off like a bitchfest.

you do you, he'll do him, your paths don't even have to cross if you're not buying gil.
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By Draylo 2019-12-06 15:15:57
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He was insinuating that everyone here was poor and almost like they were beneath him. They probably were bothered about that? He's toxic as *** on this forum, so I honestly couldn't care less if he stopped posting lol.
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By Odin.Slore 2019-12-06 15:22:54
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A favor to ask as well.. quit sending your tools to odin. We don't spam shouts to sell ***like you guys do. Put it on the ah and wait like everyone else. You guys migration is annoying.
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