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By Taint 2020-04-24 07:53:23
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gargurty said: »
finaly done with her. Got my pants on ve in a duo with someone who still needed em too. was thf mnk.

Congrats! Very Jealous.
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By gistofanything 2020-04-28 21:44:08
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So is it just me, or does Lilith randomly not spawn a gyve when she does a TP move...?
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2020-04-28 22:09:52
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According to BG, only certain moves will spawn Gyves/Spitewardens.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Lilith#Spite_Wardens.E2.98.85
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By gistofanything 2020-04-29 00:54:08
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Odin.Llewelyn said: »
According to BG, only certain moves will spawn Gyves/Spitewardens.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Lilith#Spite_Wardens.E2.98.85
Right, but I ran with my group earlier this evening, and she would use these tp moves, but nothing would happen. This is on VD difficulty, by the way.
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By Valefor.Yandaime 2020-04-29 04:30:46
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gistofanything said: »
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
According to BG, only certain moves will spawn Gyves/Spitewardens.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Lilith#Spite_Wardens.E2.98.85
Right, but I ran with my group earlier this evening, and she would use these tp moves, but nothing would happen. This is on VD difficulty, by the way.

I will confirm this happens sometimes.
When farming VD sometimes a Gyve will spawn immediately, sometimes not at all? I just figured that it might be on a delay that wasn’t registering for the server or something. I try to kill her before the Gyve can spawn anyway but still.
 
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By Shiva.Berzerk 2020-04-30 12:20:21
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Ragnarok.Ayami said: »
More video for bored people! Can carry 2 others for drop using this method. No 2hr needed!

Is the WHM subbing COR? Great video, might give this a whirl, hunting last few pieces for mules and droprates are terrible on Easy.
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2020-04-30 23:03:56
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So whats the trick? That video looks smooth?
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By Draylo 2020-04-30 23:37:09
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Overpowered MNK with its high DMG and low tp feed.
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By Siren.Kyte 2020-05-01 00:15:22
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or anchor, lol
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By green212 2020-05-01 00:37:16
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gistofanything said: »
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
According to BG, only certain moves will spawn Gyves/Spitewardens.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Lilith#Spite_Wardens.E2.98.85
Right, but I ran with my group earlier this evening, and she would use these tp moves, but nothing would happen. This is on VD difficulty, by the way.

that can happen when the move gets resisted
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By SimonSes 2020-05-01 02:52:08
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Ragnarok.Ayami said: »

Using Anchor is one thing, but making video of Lilith showcasing you method that is completely dependent on that cheat tool is just silly.
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By Bismarck.Ringoko 2020-05-01 03:05:36
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SimonSes said: »
Ragnarok.Ayami said: »

Using Anchor is one thing, but making video of Lilith showcasing you method that is completely dependent on that cheat tool is just silly.

No 2 hr though!
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By Fenrir.Aladeus 2020-05-01 03:38:05
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oh look, nothing dropped. lol. honestly though, nice job.
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2020-05-01 07:29:15
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So the entire trick is just using anchor and a job with capped subtle blow? I still don't get it lol.
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By tyalangan 2020-05-01 10:38:09
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Fenrir.Kaldaek said: »
So the entire trick is just using anchor and a job with capped subtle blow? I still don't get it lol.

He had absorb-tp (/drk) on two characters, as well.
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2020-05-01 14:08:22
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Call me crazy, but isn't the whole point do doing n+... to get and fight the wardens, for extra loot?

Otherwise just do the fight on E?
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By Draylo 2020-05-01 23:24:26
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There are different opinions on that. On one hand a lot of people feel the drop rate is higher on higher difficulties if it works like any other HTB, which it probably does. The other hand, some have claimed that SE specifically said this battle has different mechanics for the drop rates and that the difficulty isn't as impactful as other battles. At the very least you can get more REMA upgrade items from higher difficulties, so why not if you can do it.
 
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By Masunasu 2020-05-03 18:00:35
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Assume I already know where you're trying to go with that statement. Plenty of people use Anchor and I personally don't have a problem with that, but pretending that a basic addon like findAll is comparable to entirely bypassing knockback is clearly flawed logic even if "tHeY bOth AgAiNsT tHe ToS"
 
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By Masunasu 2020-05-03 18:43:13
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Ragnarok.Ayami said: »
I'm not pretending anything "cheat" is "cheat"
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If you want to play legit then uninstall your windower then I'll take your word seriously.
lol
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By Pantafernando 2020-05-03 18:49:43
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Well this escalated quickly
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By Draylo 2020-05-03 19:29:01
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You're essentially bypassing a mechanic of the fight that was intended by the devs as part of its difficulty. It isn't the same as just using windower. Not to get into that debate but just pointing that difference out.
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By Afania 2020-05-03 21:16:24
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Fenrir.Kaldaek said: »
Call me crazy, but isn't the whole point do doing n+... to get and fight the wardens, for extra loot?

Otherwise just do the fight on E?

Even without warden higher difficulty has MUCH higher drop rate. In my last 40+ E/VE(some with TH8) I only saw 1 earring and 1 sword. E is just horribad.

In last 14 VD with TH4 I saw 2 armors, 1 daybreak and 2 swords. No warden kills.
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By Carbuncle.Razziel 2020-05-03 21:44:33
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You can taste the salt in this thread.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2020-05-03 21:55:59
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Afania said: »
Fenrir.Kaldaek said: »
Call me crazy, but isn't the whole point do doing n+... to get and fight the wardens, for extra loot?

Otherwise just do the fight on E?

Even without warden higher difficulty has MUCH higher drop rate. In my last 40+ E/VE(some with TH8) I only saw 1 earring and 1 sword. E is just horribad.

In last 14 VD with TH4 I saw 2 armors, 1 daybreak and 2 swords. No warden kills.
Something something eyeball test sample size.
 
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By Afania 2020-05-03 22:42:02
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
Fenrir.Kaldaek said: »
Call me crazy, but isn't the whole point do doing n+... to get and fight the wardens, for extra loot?

Otherwise just do the fight on E?

Even without warden higher difficulty has MUCH higher drop rate. In my last 40+ E/VE(some with TH8) I only saw 1 earring and 1 sword. E is just horribad.

In last 14 VD with TH4 I saw 2 armors, 1 daybreak and 2 swords. No warden kills.
Something something eyeball test sample size.

There are also plenty of E/VE testimonials in this thread with hundreds of runs saying higher difficulty has higher drop rate. Otherwise what's the point to avoid VE? We could just all do VE if difficulty doesn't make a difference.
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