Lilith HTBF

I've had absolutely no luck getting drops on VE subbing THF for some TH. Am I better off trying E on BLU or DRK solo?

I would rather do it on E with TH4 on BLU. These HTB are all the same that you get a much higher rate on drops the higher up you go, so I would never want to do a very low difficulty.

I went 0/300 on VE as THF. I ended up doing WOTG missions on my mules so I could tri-box E and got almost 2 full sets in about 50 runs.

I figured, guess I'll put my big boy pants on and do E. Is there anything else to know other than using trusts to dispel the Dread Spikes? Probably will do it on BLU

I don't think Lilith works like that if i'm honest.
I went 200~ runs for 3/5(head, legs and feet) doing VE-E. Then went
1/438 on Normal on the body to make me 4/5. I'm STILL 4/5 missing the hands.

I've heard people get the same luck as me(***), but 0/150 on VD.

Did under 200 runs. 2 pieces from E with TH8+, 2 from VE with TH8+, 2 from VE with TH4.

1/12 Sacro Breastplate TH4 N.

1/3 Hjarrandi Breastplate TH4 VE.

Do it on whatever difficulty you're capable of killing it on.

Question the guives that pop in middle are they different then ones on edge? It’s a real pain to move trusts out of those

According to BG:

RNG vs Lady Lilith [E]

This is true.

Took me 63 VD runs to complete my set and this statement as the truth. Once you get most of the gears across your characters, you get bottle-necked... HARD.. Lilith has a weapon fetish and will very much more often than not drop her favorites; the Sword and the Pole for.. Reasons...?

so by 40something, I had all weapons across my characters except for one missing Daybreak and 3/5 Malig on the COR and 4/5 on the Main. Was hitting blanks from that point.. Started dropping Swords on all and Staff on the BRD mule (BRD unfortunately cant use it but its amazing Idle for my WHM and great React Piece for GEO for now) just to see anything drop at all. She's SE's little dirty joke. It is what it is.

Ran some guy missing 2 armors through VD the other day, 8 runs, with his THF tagging TH8, and all it got was the missing Daybreak for my mules. Its that bottleneck that's killer here. It'd be nice if SE could force a drop to help speed this up but we're just not that lucky (If the item that tries to drop but cant cuz everyone has it, Change it so something that CAN drop --Would be nice)

Bad advise. Don't encouraging botting!


Well done! :D


Hmm, what jobs did you use? I have been wanting to try it low-man for a while, but haven't had much success with it.

MNK+THF on Easy is probably the best Duo set up

Edit: Or just MNK on E

Out of morbid curiously, why Mnk? And which REMA?

Been doing DRG and THF on easy. THF has leader and stays engaged on Lilith/keeps trusts on her.

DRG just zergs her down:
I try to open with Angon and do the following WS/SC between jumps:

DRAKESBANE > STARDIVER (GRAVITATION) > CAMLANN'S TORMENT (FRAGMENTATION) > DRAKESBANE (LIGHT) > CAMLANN'S TORMENT (LIGHT/RADIANCE [LVL.4])

By the time I burn all of my jumps she is at 40% or less just doing a 3 step (in the event I can't pull off a 5 step).

Afterwards I just DD the fetters for TP and spam camlann's back to back and self SC light until she is dead.

The benefit of using DRG is shedding hate onto a trust tank and avoiding charm. You also don't even need to engage her at the start to get TP. Also restoring breath is nice to have in a pinch in regards to Trust AI being really stupid.

The THF stays on her/builds TH when dread spikes aren't getting in the way.

I feel like when I do it on MNK, she stays plastered on me.

Don't even need REMA, just spam VS for light. Really any melee DPS should be able to solo it, but feeding less TP helps.

Very true... 3/5 here and stuck... [E] [VE] spams about 300+kills in...

My decked out MNK plows through her in 30seconds(not exaggerating)

MNKs Tp feed plus penance nerfs her to the ground.
I see 1 TP move per fight unless th9 (THF mule) is being stingy with the proc.

Did you make sure to use Bounty Shot? xD

Good to know!

30s from engage? Or including buffs/trusts lol. Well my BLU typically clears 60~90s after engage. Plenty of jobs can solo or duo this quite easily on E, so its not MNK or nothing. It might be the fastest due to the penance because her TP moves suck, but don't get discouraged if you dont have a decked out MNK.

srsly i dont think difficulty gives you any bonuses other than more rock drops. my ls did 5 D and 2 VD one day last week and got.. a sword. lol. it really sucks that you're not guaranteed a drop on VD even if it would be a weapon.

SE specifically stated that killing the extra adds will open up additional drop slots, and the additional monsters appear only in N-VD. Though, to date, I have yet to see one person confirm that doing this method can yield multiple Malignance armor pieces; we've seen the accessories and weapons drop along with a Malignance piece, but I haven't seen multiple Malignance pieces on any difficulty mentioned. The content has been out long enough so that if it were possible, we would have seen it by now. Thus, I think it's safe to say that you cannot get multiple pieces of Malignance armor on any one run, regardless of difficulty. Unless someone can prove otherwise.

So your theory is that malignance set is exclusive drop from Lilith and not from the adds?

EDIT: my impression about this is that almost none does VD or VD killing adds. Youtube has just one vid of clearing Lilith more adds. The others are either rushing to beat Lilith or just some random VE, E, N.

For reference, in 22 VD runs with 3 adds killed and TH5/6 we got 7 swords, 2 clubs and 15 Malignance armor pieces.

That is the first time I have seen two malignance armor pieces drop in one run. Great to be proven wrong there, as I had always thought it was just one armor max per Lilith. That must have been quite rare.

25-30 seconds from engage (Focus wears off right before or after I kill), about 2min total in zone.

SAM has a similar clear time but is much more risky due to multiple TP moves and Amnesia can mess up your 5 step.