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By Viciouss 2019-01-16 12:23:09
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Well the Dems basically just told Trump as long as his shutdown is going on there won't be a SOTU at Capitol Hill, he can do it from the Oval Office again if he wants to. All Trump can do about it is open the government.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-01-16 12:29:32
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-01-16 12:36:42
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If that cartoonist keeps at it, someday he'll be even funnier than the Family Circus!



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By fonewear 2019-01-16 12:42:15
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You guys are missing out I'm learning about magnets !
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By fonewear 2019-01-16 12:49:17
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Hell with the wall according to the other thread. A giant magnet could take care of those illegal immigrants. Just hold them against the wall with a magnet !
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By Nausi 2019-01-16 12:53:05
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If pelosi doesn’t want to host the sotu, Trump will just do it at a Trump rally, get the whole country in on that magic.

Jesus are democrats really this *** dumb?
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By Nausi 2019-01-16 12:57:19
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Democrats have proposed funding border security inclusive of walls upwards of 54 billion dollars, now they cannot stomach 5 billion because “take that blumpf”.

They lose more and more ground everyday. We know this because they’re resorting to stupid talking points like we should protect the border because Trump said mexico would cut us a check (he never said this).
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By Viciouss 2019-01-16 12:58:32
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Good luck getting networks to air it after the last ratings bust. People tuned out those little pep rallies a long time ago.
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By Viciouss 2019-01-16 13:01:29
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Nausi said: »
They lose more and more ground everyday.

Actual source? Every poll has clearly showed a majority oppose a border wall and blame Trump for the shutdown. Trump has had 2 years to sell his stupid wall to America, and the best he can manage is 40% or less support?
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-01-16 13:08:00
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Here is what I don't get, the Democrats could use the border wall funding as a bargaining chip to get some sort of law passed regarding DREAMers and possibly provide a pathway to citizenship for them.
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By Viciouss 2019-01-16 13:12:21
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Here is what I don't get, the Democrats could use the border wall funding as a bargaining chip to get some sort of law passed regarding DREAMers and possibly provide a pathway to citizenship for them.

Two separate issues, and besides, Dems can save that chip in exchange for NAFTA 2.0, which also rests in their hands.
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By Nausi 2019-01-16 13:25:42
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Viciouss said: »
Nausi said: »
They lose more and more ground everyday.

Actual source? Every poll has clearly showed a majority oppose a border wall and blame Trump for the shutdown. Trump has had 2 years to sell his stupid wall to America, and the best he can manage is 40% or less support?

Which is far more than it was before this shutdown started.

Thats all that matters, it gets worse for libs every day that goes by.
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By Viciouss 2019-01-16 13:27:56
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So no source? Gotcha.
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By Nausi 2019-01-16 13:28:22
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Here is what I don't get, the Democrats could use the border wall funding as a bargaining chip to get some sort of law passed regarding DREAMers and possibly provide a pathway to citizenship for them.

They really are too blinded by hatred to think straight. The worst thing you could do in a pissing contest is telegraph to your enemies that you’re entirely irrational.
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By Nausi 2019-01-16 13:30:13
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So no source? Gotcha.
You know I don’t give you what you want because you’re not worth the effort right?
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By Viciouss 2019-01-16 13:33:02
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There is no reason to believe a conspiracy theory that "its getting worse for the Dems" when every poll taken after the shutdown shows a majority blame Trump for his shutdown, lol. Pretty basic.
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By Nausi 2019-01-16 13:38:52
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There is no reason to believe a conspiracy theory that "its getting worse for the Dems" when every poll taken after the shutdown shows a majority blame Trump for his shutdown, lol. Pretty basic.
Then you should be happy to have the shutdown continue. I urge you to continue your support.
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By Viciouss 2019-01-16 13:43:49
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Nope, every Dem has wanted the shutdown to end since Trump started it, that will continue to be the main focus. Open the government, get people paid.
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By Nausi 2019-01-16 13:56:22
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What if you guys wake up in a few days and Trump has used this shutdown to legally fire hundreds of thousands of federal workers?

Get ready for the salt kids, all because democrats wouldn’t agree to defend our country.
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By Nausi 2019-01-16 13:57:15
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Nope, every Dem has wanted the shutdown to end since Trump started it, that will continue to be the main focus. Open the government, get people paid.
Then why not build the wall and defend the border? Dems have wasted far more than that with this little charade.
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By Viciouss 2019-01-16 13:59:57
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Dems support border security, as evidence by the bill they passed funding it the last two years :)

Also, how would firing hundreds of thousands of people help Trump and hurt the Dems? Really would like to know the answer to this.
 
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By fonewear 2019-01-16 15:50:23
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-01-16 16:18:29
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Viciouss said: »
Nausi said: »
They lose more and more ground everyday.
Actual source? Every poll has clearly showed a majority oppose a border wall and blame Trump for the shutdown. Trump has had 2 years to sell his stupid wall to America, and the best he can manage is 40% or less support?
Last I saw Rasmussen had Trump at 39% the wall at 42%, znd that's the poll that is usually most favorable to Trump.

And please remember that Trump was offered 25 BILLION for the fricking wall but he turned it down because it would have allowed some brown people, who weren't illegally employed at Trump golf courses, to remain in the country.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-01-16 16:21:46
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By fonewear 2019-01-16 16:22:55
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Viciouss said: »
Nausi said: »
They lose more and more ground everyday.
Actual source? Every poll has clearly showed a majority oppose a border wall and blame Trump for the shutdown. Trump has had 2 years to sell his stupid wall to America, and the best he can manage is 40% or less support?
Last I saw Rasmussen had Trump at 39% the wall at 42%, znd that's the poll that is usually most favorable to Trump.

And please remember that Trump was offered 25 BILLION for the fricking wall but he turned it down because it would have allowed some brown people, who weren't illegally employed at Trump golf courses, to remain in the country.

What about yellow orange red blue indigo and violet people !
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By Nausi 2019-01-16 17:17:22
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Viciouss said: »
Nope, every Dem has wanted the shutdown to end since Trump started it, that will continue to be the main focus. Open the government, get people paid.
Then why not build the wall and defend the border? Dems have wasted far more than that with this little charade.
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Dems support border security, as evidence by the bill they passed funding it the last two years :)

Also, how would firing hundreds of thousands of people help Trump and hurt the Dems? Really would like to know the answer to this.
So if they supported it two years ago, they just aren’t supporting it now because they hate trump more than they’re willing to defend the country?
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By Viciouss 2019-01-16 17:20:25
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Border security has been on the table for years, we can secure the border without a stupid border wall that will never get built. Time for Trump to accept that and stop lying to everyone and open the gov't back up. Its a complete lie that a border wall is the only way to secure the border and no one is getting fooled by it.
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By Nausi 2019-01-16 17:33:41
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Democrats have funded walls before, therefore they agree walls work. I mean they’ve voted for legislation thats had billions in wall funding in it before. I mean theres clips everywhere of them calling for barrier funding.

Just not now, they’re not going to defend the border anymore now. They’d rather attempt to get Trump.
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