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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-12-12 21:02:10
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Mika Brzezinski in Hot Water Over Pompeo 'Butt Boy' Comment
'Morning Joe' co-host apologizes after comment called homophobic

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Mika Brzezinski had to quickly apologize after referring to Mike Pompeo as a "wannabe dictator's butt boy" on Morning Joe Wednesday....
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Is it homophobic? Is it accurate?

I think it homoreferential, but not phobic.
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 21:02:30
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How can anyone take vic seriously? He literally comes up one click short of facts that entirely disprove his embarrassing assertions.

Maybe you don't even know Rasmussen left the company? Wouldn't surprise me.
Stop backpedaling vic, scott rasmussen & rasmussen reports has been among the most accurate polling outfits around.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-12-12 21:03:20
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 21:03:58
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Nausi said: »
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How can anyone take vic seriously? He literally comes up one click short of facts that entirely disprove his embarrassing assertions.

Maybe you don't even know Rasmussen left the company? Wouldn't surprise me.
Stop backpedaling vic, scott rasmussen & rasmussen reports has been among the most accurate polling outfits around.

lol. Sure kid.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 21:05:45
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Garuda.Chanti said: »

Mika Brzezinski in Hot Water Over Pompeo 'Butt Boy' Comment
'Morning Joe' co-host apologizes after comment called homophobic

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Mika Brzezinski had to quickly apologize after referring to Mike Pompeo as a "wannabe dictator's butt boy" on Morning Joe Wednesday....
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Is it homophobic? Is it accurate?

No and yes. Pompeo is almost as stupid as Bolton, and just as ineffective. The world is fleecing us. NK, Iran, Russia, China, all schooling Trump and his foreign policy team.
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By Zerowone 2018-12-12 21:09:36
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Garuda.Chanti said: »

Mika Brzezinski in Hot Water Over Pompeo 'Butt Boy' Comment
'Morning Joe' co-host apologizes after comment called homophobic

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Mika Brzezinski had to quickly apologize after referring to Mike Pompeo as a "wannabe dictator's butt boy" on Morning Joe Wednesday....
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Is it homophobic? Is it accurate?

I think it homoreferential, but not phobic.

I think it’s because the intent is to be demeaning.
Personally I thought it only to be homophobic when be using derogatory terms regarding homosexuality/homoeroticism to deman someone who actually identifies as such.

Whereas doing to someone who identifies as straight is just *** with manhood/ego.

I’m sure others will chime in on this one.
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 21:10:45
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Getting one generic ballot prediction wrong doesn’t negate an entire firm. They are still among the most accurate pollsters around.
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 21:11:58
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Big surprise, Chanti gives a fellow woman of the tribe the benefit of the doubt.

Have you ever heard of the WAW effect?
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 21:15:24
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Getting one generic ballot prediction wrong doesn’t negate an entire firm. They are still among the most accurate pollsters around.

Widely discredited, but don't let that stop you from being completely wrong :)
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 21:17:19
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As it turns out, nausi's favorite hyper partisan poll was the least accurate of all the pollsters when predicting the 2018 election. But hey, conspiracy theorists have to stick together.

At least nausi has admitted this is factual :)
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 21:22:52
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Getting one generic ballot prediction wrong doesn’t negate an entire firm. They are still among the most accurate pollsters around.

Widely discredited, but don't let that stop you from being completely wrong :)
538 was devistatingly wrong in 2016. And was wrong until the final days in 2018. Which is the whole point of this discussion, polls are widely used to make news, not report public opinion.

Which is why its fabricated *** that people don’t want a wall or aren’t with Trump in building it. But cling to your fantasy if you want, we’ll laugh all the way.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 21:36:00
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Nausi said: »
Getting one generic ballot prediction wrong doesn’t negate an entire firm. They are still among the most accurate pollsters around.

Widely discredited, but don't let that stop you from being completely wrong :)
538 was devistatingly wrong in 2016. And was wrong until the final days in 2018.

Now we are talking about 538? That's probably not a comparison you want to make, especially since Nate Silver was on point for all of 2018 (never wrong at any point of the year nausi), and was pretty much Nostradamus in 2012. Rasmussen Reports has never been in their league, even before the founder left the company.

Also, you don't determine the point of this discussion, especially since you have been in full spin/denial the entire time. My original point is still accurate lol.
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 21:54:14
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Hahahahahahahahahah

Vic is never accurate. Again, always one “too lazy” click away from finding out Scott Rasmussen has been involved in poling for decades.

How embarrassing for you.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 22:18:47
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lol, this again?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-12-12 23:49:33
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Garuda.Chanti said: »

Mika Brzezinski in Hot Water Over Pompeo 'Butt Boy' Comment
'Morning Joe' co-host apologizes after comment called homophobic

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Mika Brzezinski had to quickly apologize after referring to Mike Pompeo as a "wannabe dictator's butt boy" on Morning Joe Wednesday....
Questions:

Is it homophobic? Is it accurate?

I think it homoreferential, but not phobic.

I don't think it's a big deal, but given that conservatives have received worse punishments for comments that were considerably more benign, I'm going to have to go with, *summons my inner CJ*, "SHE'S A HOMOPHOBIC BIGOT WHO SHOULD BE FIRED AND CONVICTED OF TREASON!"
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By Valefor.Endoq 2018-12-13 00:03:26
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A phobia is a disease. When you call someone phobic, you are oppressing an individual that has an illness.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-12-13 04:46:35
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
I think it homoreferential, but not phobic.

it's a homophobic slur. if someone on fox news said it there would already be protests outside the building.

Valefor.Endoq said: »
A phobia is a disease

"homophobic" isn't a phobia it's "having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people."
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-12-13 04:59:07
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
*summons my inner CJ*

never go full CJ.jpeg
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By Valefor.Endoq 2018-12-13 05:01:24
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A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder that describes an excessive and irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation. Phobias involve intense fear surrounding an object or situation that realistically poses little or no real danger. They are different from common fears in that the associated anxiety is so strong it interferes with daily life and the ability to function normally. People suffering from phobias may go to extreme lengths to avoid encountering or experiencing the feared object or situation.
Though many people with phobias realize that their worry is unrealistic or unwarranted, feelings of fear and anxiety persist and seem unmanageable, leaving sufferers feeling out of control.

The American Psychiatric Association identifies three types of phobias:

Specific Phobia: Going to extreme lengths to avoid an activity or object because of fear of danger or harm.
Examples: Fear of heights, snakes, spiders
Social Phobia: A fear of being humiliated or underperforming in social situations. Also known as social anxiety disorder.
Examples: Fear of public speaking, public restrooms, eating in front of others
Agoraphobia: Feeling discomfort in situations where escape is difficult or help is not readily available.
Examples: Fear of leaving the house, public transportation, small spaces
A few of the most common specific phobias include:

Arachnophobia: fear of spiders
Ophidiophobia: fear of snakes
Acrophobia: fear of heights
Cynophobia: fear of dogs
Astraphobia: fear of thunder and/or lightning
Trypophobia: fear of holes
Aerophobia: fear of flying
Xenophobia: fear of the unknown or unfamiliar (such as foreigners)
Claustrophobia: fear of small spaces
Glossophobia: fear of public speaking
Emetophobia: fear of vomiting
Symptoms
Symptoms of phobias are similar to those of a panic attack. When faced with the specific object, activity, or situation that is the subject of intense fear, an individual with a phobia may exhibit the following symptoms:

Uncontrollable feelings of anxiety, dread, and panic
Rapid heart rate
Difficulty breathing
Sweating
Trembling, shaking
Abdominal discomfort
Tightening of the chest and feelings of choking
Nausea and dizziness
Hot or cold flashes
An overwhelming desire to escape
Causes
Most phobias develop in childhood, and are commonly passed down by a family member. However, the main cause of phobias is still unknown. Frequent causes of phobias include:

Traumatic experience involving object of fear
Experiencing a panic attack in specific situation or around an object
Witnessing someone else being harmed by specific activity or object
Hearing a tragic story involving a specific activity or object
Having phobias and fears is common, and often rational. However, if these fears begin to interfere with daily life, consult with a doctor. For example, a phobia of driving on the freeway should not be so strong that it keep a person from driving to work or school.
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By Nausi 2018-12-13 06:40:19
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The key word with phobia is irrational. People who have arachnophobia have an irrational fear of spiders. If you understand that a tiny spider is essentially harmless (an easy concept to grasp) yet are still terrified of them, then that terror is irrational.

Being homophobic or transphobic is yet again, another one of these liberal buzzwords that is misused and twisted (like racist and sexist) just for its impact value. People who think homosexual coupling men isn’t the same thing as heterosexual marriage, don’t have an irrational fear of homosexuality, yet they are labed that way by ignorant leftists who don’t understand the fundamental meaning of the word.

Don’t want to give non-trans perverts an excuse to go into the women’s bathroom? It MUST be because you’re transphobic! Get woke bigot!

Think that men and women are fundamentally biologically different and those differences explain away the abundances of different outcomes we see betweenen amd women in society? That can’t be true, you must just be a sexism supporter of institutional sexism. Checkmate bigot.

Whats the phobia for people who are irrationally afraid to question their own left wing belief system?
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By Zerowone 2018-12-13 07:30:47
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Soooo soooo close to having a moment of self-awareness. But ya missed the mark.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-12-13 07:43:49
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It's about controlling and changing language and how we interact such that it's impossible for the Progressives to lose. If someone just unilaterally makes up a rule that nobody is allowed to disagree with them, how can there be any sort of productive discussion? Yet this is precisely what the left did, not just in the USA but across the world. It's the kind of behavior a spoiled rich seven year old girl would have. The kind where they just demand something and then start screaming whenever their parents try to explain why they can't have that thing they demanded.

So yeah, just imagine progressives like Zero and Vic as seven year old girls screaming for a pony for Christmas.
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By fonewear 2018-12-13 08:03:46
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Valefor.Endoq said: »
A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder that describes an excessive and irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation. Phobias involve intense fear surrounding an object or situation that realistically poses little or no real danger. They are different from common fears in that the associated anxiety is so strong it interferes with daily life and the ability to function normally. People suffering from phobias may go to extreme lengths to avoid encountering or experiencing the feared object or situation.
Though many people with phobias realize that their worry is unrealistic or unwarranted, feelings of fear and anxiety persist and seem unmanageable, leaving sufferers feeling out of control.

The American Psychiatric Association identifies three types of phobias:

Specific Phobia: Going to extreme lengths to avoid an activity or object because of fear of danger or harm.
Examples: Fear of heights, snakes, spiders
Social Phobia: A fear of being humiliated or underperforming in social situations. Also known as social anxiety disorder.
Examples: Fear of public speaking, public restrooms, eating in front of others
Agoraphobia: Feeling discomfort in situations where escape is difficult or help is not readily available.
Examples: Fear of leaving the house, public transportation, small spaces
A few of the most common specific phobias include:

Arachnophobia: fear of spiders
Ophidiophobia: fear of snakes
Acrophobia: fear of heights
Cynophobia: fear of dogs
Astraphobia: fear of thunder and/or lightning
Trypophobia: fear of holes
Aerophobia: fear of flying
Xenophobia: fear of the unknown or unfamiliar (such as foreigners)
Claustrophobia: fear of small spaces
Glossophobia: fear of public speaking
Emetophobia: fear of vomiting
Symptoms
Symptoms of phobias are similar to those of a panic attack. When faced with the specific object, activity, or situation that is the subject of intense fear, an individual with a phobia may exhibit the following symptoms:

Uncontrollable feelings of anxiety, dread, and panic
Rapid heart rate
Difficulty breathing
Sweating
Trembling, shaking
Abdominal discomfort
Tightening of the chest and feelings of choking
Nausea and dizziness
Hot or cold flashes
An overwhelming desire to escape
Causes
Most phobias develop in childhood, and are commonly passed down by a family member. However, the main cause of phobias is still unknown. Frequent causes of phobias include:

Traumatic experience involving object of fear
Experiencing a panic attack in specific situation or around an object
Witnessing someone else being harmed by specific activity or object
Hearing a tragic story involving a specific activity or object
Having phobias and fears is common, and often rational. However, if these fears begin to interfere with daily life, consult with a doctor. For example, a phobia of driving on the freeway should not be so strong that it keep a person from driving to work or school.

My phobia is reading this post....or any post !
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By Zerowone 2018-12-13 08:29:39
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Asura.Saevel said: »
It's about controlling and changing language and how we interact such that it's impossible for the Progressives to lose. If someone just unilaterally makes up a rule that nobody is allowed to disagree with them, how can there be any sort of productive discussion? Yet this is precisely what the left did, not just in the USA but across the world. It's the kind of behavior a spoiled rich seven year old girl would have. The kind where they just demand something and then start screaming whenever their parents try to explain why they can't have that thing they demanded.

So yeah, just imagine progressives like Zero and Vic as seven year old girls screaming for a pony for Christmas.

Wow buddy you got issues. Also try to keep my name out of your mouth when your misattributing characteristics of “progressives”.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-12-13 09:30:29
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Have you ever heard of the WAW effect?
No.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-13 09:32:28
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Asura.Saevel said: »
It's about controlling and changing language and how we interact such that it's impossible for the Progressives to lose. If someone just unilaterally makes up a rule that nobody is allowed to disagree with them, how can there be any sort of productive discussion? Yet this is precisely what the left did, not just in the USA but across the world. It's the kind of behavior a spoiled rich seven year old girl would have. The kind where they just demand something and then start screaming whenever their parents try to explain why they can't have that thing they demanded.

So yeah, just imagine progressives like Zero and Vic as seven year old girls screaming for a pony for Christmas.

Idiotic as usual.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-12-13 10:22:40
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Gotta go with Saev on this one. Buzzwords and labels designed to shut down discussions have been a hallmark of progressive strategies for years. That's not to say that conservatives never do it too, but the Left has overused it to the point of it becoming a meme.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2018-12-13 10:38:00
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So many post came so close to getting The Plus Button Of Validation from me but then the name drops happen and i’m like nah
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-12-13 11:59:25
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Gotta go with Saev on this one. Buzzwords and labels designed to shut down discussions have been a hallmark of progressive strategies for years. That's not to say that conservatives never do it too, but the Left has overused it to the point of it becoming a meme.

The right isn't competent enough to pull something like that off. Closest thing is the super religious folks who have lost nearly all power. Maybe even the McCarthy era.
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By Nausi 2018-12-13 12:25:56
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Soooo soooo close to having a moment of self-awareness. But ya missed the mark.
Did you find the kids table yet boy? Adults are talking.
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