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By Wotasu 2018-06-08 12:22:28
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Yes, today we been doing both kill cactus then NM, and kill NM and survive needles, then adds. Sand Rush even on VD wasnt bad, more of a problem with the massive amount of adds.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-06-08 12:49:16
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I remember Sodstorm being the dangerous move last time, and don't remember a Sand Rush move at all. Is that move new?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-08 13:26:46
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Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
Sand Rush (Sodstorm, they have changed the name) is physical despite the animation.

I want to see current death sets, cause my old one that I used before EA came out only did 31k with Eseal. And it has ~2100 MP.
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By Odin.Willster 2018-06-08 13:31:43
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Does he repop adds if you kill them?
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By clearlyamule 2018-06-08 14:05:39
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Odin.Willster said: »
Does he repop adds if you kill them?
If cactuar is out yes
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By Nyarlko 2018-06-08 14:09:21
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
6 *** solos and a duo cloggin up legion while there's a 20 page queue.

It's about time we have that conversation again about soloing on asura.

Two of those soloers may have been me. In Legion. Not Ambuscade. <,<

Since Legion/Ambuscade share the zone, you will show up on the same search regardless of which content you are doing. I think that players forget that Legion still exists and that there are still legit reasons for running/farming it, and that it's possible to take up to 32 players inside to a single Legion instance. Most I've managed to gather up was 18.. Someday, I will take in 32. Someday...

My point being that it's quite possible that not everyone showing up on search is necessarily doing Ambuscade.
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By Odin.Willster 2018-06-08 14:14:12
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clearlyamule said: »
Odin.Willster said: »
Does he repop adds if you kill them?
If cactuar is out yes
Meh. Messy fight even on normal with melee. Hate reset prevents me from just going without a tank.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-08 14:17:00
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Death does not work on cactus. I don't know what or how but absolutely not. unless you're g/r and bolstering it.
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By clearlyamule 2018-06-08 14:56:37
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Nyarlko said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
6 *** solos and a duo cloggin up legion while there's a 20 page queue.

It's about time we have that conversation again about soloing on asura.

Two of those soloers may have been me. In Legion. Not Ambuscade. <,<

Since Legion/Ambuscade share the zone, you will show up on the same search regardless of which content you are doing. I think that players forget that Legion still exists and that there are still legit reasons for running/farming it, and that it's possible to take up to 32 players inside to a single Legion instance. Most I've managed to gather up was 18.. Someday, I will take in 32. Someday...

My point being that it's quite possible that not everyone showing up on search is necessarily doing Ambuscade.
Also we literally have this conversation every month
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-08 14:59:31
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And it's never going to stop being brought up every month.
 
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-06-08 15:08:48
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Its the beginning of the update. Congestion on Asura s inevitable and there's no way around it. Either take along the soloers with you or adjust your entry times to when it dies down. First few days is always like this.

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What is the point of doing Legion now?

I think there's vorseals from clearing stuff, among other items that are hardly on AH that retain some value to this day.
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By Shiva.Znitch 2018-06-08 15:14:39
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Abjurations for re-cursing HQ Tenryu, Kheperi etc. gear received from Gobbiebox, glowy H2H/Katana, Honors for purchasing glowy H2H/katana from Reisen Gobbie, mats like Penelope's Cloth... Arise and Meteor scrolls? Possibly other reasons.
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-06-08 15:25:47
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Death does not work on cactus. I don't know what or how but absolutely not. unless you're g/r and bolstering it.
Works very well. 2x Deaths are enough to oneshot I think.

Gravitation SC, deathx2.
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Indi-Malaise, geo Acumen (not sure Cactuar was in range of Malaise tbh)
Each BLM use Eleseal just before Death, so you compensate for the lack of Languor/Focus.
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By clearlyamule 2018-06-08 15:46:56
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DirectX said: »
What is the point of doing Legion now?
On top of what others have said
I think Chuparrosa Mantle is still good. Hearty earring has uses. Esper earring is 3rd best in slot so pretty easy pick up if you got another pet job earring from the quest or can't get omen one. Or just fun
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-08 16:53:48
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Death does not work on cactus. I don't know what or how but absolutely not. unless you're g/r and bolstering it.
Works very well. 2x Deaths are enough to oneshot I think.

Gravitation SC, deathx2.
Buffs used:
Indi-Malaise, geo Acumen (not sure Cactuar was in range of Malaise tbh)
Each BLM use Eleseal just before Death, so you compensate for the lack of Languor/Focus.

I tried with 4 different groups, no blm could do more than 30k with eseal.
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By Fenrir.Jumeya 2018-06-08 17:00:02
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Death does not work on cactus. I don't know what or how but absolutely not. unless you're g/r and bolstering it.

You are ***mages. 99999 Deaths, no malaise. Indifocus, geo-acumen.

Pull main NM to corner, cactus moves around 25' from the nm, move up and you're always in cast range.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-08 17:00:39
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It's Asura, obviously they're ***mages.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2018-06-08 17:11:32
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
And it's never going to stop being brought up every month.
It's the same person whining about it every month.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-08 17:17:57
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It's a lot more people than me, I'm just the only one that keeps complaining.

Nothing changes when you bend over and let them keep butt *** you.

Everyone else is content paying for substandard service.
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2018-06-08 17:28:26
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The boss takes x2 damage while it is summoning, even after the Cactuar has been killed.
It's possible to hit 80~99k MB with any element on Cactuar but ES is essential. MBs are always resisted without ES no matter how much macc you have it seems.
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By Fenrir.Jumeya 2018-06-08 18:14:51
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E.seal is straight up m.acc, and m.acc works by threshold, so the claim that it needs to be e.sealed to be unresistant is just ***.

Enfeebles work fine on cactus, focus, stewpot is 50 more m.acc then crepes, storm, klimaform and we're still doing 100k.

Is it possible death is landing 100k resisted? sure, but unlikely.
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2018-06-08 18:28:41
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It could be an actual mechanic.
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なお、サボテンダーには特殊な仕組みが施されているようでMBのダメージがカットされている模様だが、精霊の印を併用することで通常通りMBダメージが出るようになる。
Although it seems that a special mechanism is given to the cactus, it seems that damage of MB is cut, but if you use the spiritual mark in combination, MB damage will come out as normal as usual

That would makes sense to me because non-MB nukes and Flaming Crush do normal damage but MBs (idk about Death) don't seem very strong without ES.
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By Asura.Aeonova 2018-06-08 20:02:05
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Shiva.Znitch said: »
Abjurations for re-cursing HQ Tenryu, Kheperi etc. gear received from Gobbiebox, glowy H2H/Katana, Honors for purchasing glowy H2H/katana from Reisen Gobbie, mats like Penelope's Cloth... Arise and Meteor scrolls? Possibly other reasons.

Other reason may be BLU farming Unbridled Learning spells for the HNMs that hang out in there.
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-06-08 20:21:39
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
I tried with 4 different groups, no blm could do more than 30k with eseal.
Get better BLMs?
The ones I was with are LS buddies. Their gear is not BiS but it's very very good.
Also we had Idris GEO.
His buffs were IndiMalaise and GeoAcumen. Not sure the cactuar was within malaise's range most of the time though, if you ask me it feels useless, just use indiacumen and geo-whatever.

We only did ~6 runs I think, maybe 7, which is not a lot, and we saw one resist, with Cactuar left at like 13k or something.


No clue what food they were using but I think it was Pear Crepes. Can MB comet right after Death if you use the free-mb ja then Comet. Double MB on Gravitation helps compensating for worse gear, I suppose?
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By aisukage 2018-06-08 23:24:06
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Happy it can be done easily with multiple methods. Mage style, Melee style etc all viable.

VD Tank, GEO, COR, SMNs Method

Volt strike was hitting 99,999 with Beast/Drachen and Torpor/frailty. Using AC and VS spam on main antican. Once he died just continued with thunderspark spam. Everything died with 8 seconds left on AC. This months a joke.
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By fonewear 2018-06-09 08:16:24
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If someone invites me as ranger I'll go. I'm too elite to change jobs.
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By Leviathan.Katriina 2018-06-09 10:24:35
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Few observations that needs confirmation from others:

-Adds “wave” summoned every 30 s regardless of difficulty up to 15 maximum if Sabotender wasn’t killed on VD.

-Sabotender targeted BRD every single time, we decided to use BRD sacrifice away from party and it kept targeting BRD. Maybe add this to its gimmicks or MP Jobs like previous month (needs confirmation).

-We only cared about killing Magisters (BLM wave) before Consul and left the rest on tank (Consul>Magisters>back to Conusl>the rest)

-Almost every type of TP move is blinkabke, we used dancers and ninjas for subtle blow, healing and debuffs.

-During the summoning animation, consul’s defense is almost nullified and can take sever damage even from mele attacks, we timed skillchains during that.

We already knew of many strats that clear this effectively and in timely manner, yet maybe more tricks are there to exploit.
Setup was PLD NIN DNC GEOorCOR BRD WHM all used miso ramen
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By Phoenix.Gerrott 2018-06-09 18:29:52
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Tried bard sacrifice, must be another reason it was picking whoever you had on bard.
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