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Feb 2018 Ambuscade Vol 1
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-02-09 14:55:01
Fenrir.Cherrywine said: »You are suggesting that if it is possible to make very close to a billion dollars in one night-ish then that is as good as having a billion dollars, guaranteed, every night, automatically.
It isn't equivalent. If it isn't equivalent it isn't the same. And no amount of attention, skill or preparation will make one as fast or reliable as Windower. Which is why people use Windower. You're moving the goalposts, because no-one was arguing that Windower doesn't offer things you can't fully match otherwise. Literally no-one.
However, it can get close enough that the difference is quite small in most situations, for the people willing to put in the work to do it.
 Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 15:01:21
willing to put in the work to do it.
This and ffxi cannot co-exist at the same time
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 Shiva.Spynx
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By Shiva.Spynx 2018-02-09 15:12:32
Can you do VE, just by melee zerg with one avg BLU spamming CDC with COR buffs and capped haste?
Just tried BLU solo on VE and its AoE will rape all your trusts and deal severe damage (1.5k+) to you even with capped PDT, cocoon and MG. Was a joke with BLU + GEO + trusts with barrier/wilt/entrust fury with just CDC spam
By clearlyamule 2018-02-09 15:14:03
People are -lazy-
It's not a matter of whether -you- can and are willing to pay attention.
The majority cannot, will not, and won't ever. Lazy people don't care about and aren't winning parses anyways. Also they are on skin:p. Also double weather + day is 35% you dingus. And going from -30% to +30% would be more like 85% increase. This why math matters!
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By Shiva.Arislan 2018-02-09 15:14:04
Closer more damage or further more damage.
My battlemod is showing both Nether Castigiation and Eisenschneider as Firespit/Somersault Kick for whatever reason, so I think that the distance variability I mentioned isn't really a thing.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 15:23:18
People are -lazy-
It's not a matter of whether -you- can and are willing to pay attention.
The majority cannot, will not, and won't ever. Lazy people don't care about and aren't winning parses anyways. Also they are on skin:p. Also double weather + day is 35% you dingus. And going from -30% to +30% would be more like 85% increase. This why math matters!
Which is why i didnt say exactly 50% or 30% The only thing you need to know is it's a "large difference" not 1%
By clearlyamule 2018-02-09 15:24:34
People are -lazy-
It's not a matter of whether -you- can and are willing to pay attention.
The majority cannot, will not, and won't ever. Lazy people don't care about and aren't winning parses anyways. Also they are on skin:p. Also double weather + day is 35% you dingus. And going from -30% to +30% would be more like 85% increase. This why math matters!
Which is why i didnt say exactly 50% or 30% Lazy!
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 15:25:05
By SimonSes 2018-02-09 15:50:15
Can you do VE, just by melee zerg with one avg BLU spamming CDC with COR buffs and capped haste?
Just tried BLU solo on VE and its AoE will rape all your trusts and deal severe damage (1.5k+) to you even with capped PDT, cocoon and MG. Was a joke with BLU + GEO + trusts with barrier/wilt/entrust fury with just CDC spam
Thanks. Looks like I need to lvl GEO on my fresh alt faster than I planned. Wonder if I can pull off easy or normal with one avg summoner AC with COR and Geo and trusts. I could then mix runs with smn and blu.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 16:03:51
Can you do VE, just by melee zerg with one avg BLU spamming CDC with COR buffs and capped haste?
Just tried BLU solo on VE and its AoE will rape all your trusts and deal severe damage (1.5k+) to you even with capped PDT, cocoon and MG. Was a joke with BLU + GEO + trusts with barrier/wilt/entrust fury with just CDC spam
Thanks. Looks like I need to lvl GEO on my fresh alt faster than I planned. Wonder if I can pull off easy or normal with one avg summoner AC with COR and Geo and trusts. I could then mix runs with smn and blu.
I would bet easy would work fine with one conduit, normal if you're a nq but decent smn. The problem would become killing the unicorn, 2 mobs with only one smn could be rough especially since it can heal itself indefinitely.
Cerberus.Boogs
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By Cerberus.Boogs 2018-02-09 16:25:47
First half of page one has some ambuscade info, and the remaining 6 pages (at the time of this post) is about SMN whining...
Can we get back on track? If not, at least fix the topic to "SMN Whining Feb. 2018"
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 16:33:52
Absolutely zero issue solo VE Aoe Damage "relatively" low, trusts easily survive.
Master MNK (gimp gear) turned @ charging up
Zero buffs (didnt even use berserk impetus etc)
4 Minute clear
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By Asura.Ryujinjakka 2018-02-09 16:54:15
I shall repeat what i said earlier, not sure if anyone saw it through the ""SMN this SMN that BS. I think the AoE after it charges is similar to pain sync. Done big SC dmg on it after is started charging and AoE hit for 54k dmg, stop dmg when you see the charge message, dmg is less than 100. Big dmg seemed to cancel miasma also.
PLD RNG SCH BLM COR GEO. Fusion > TF > MB. We didn't bother killing Ixion. But if the DT thing is right we will try it again later. If someone could try this set up on VD before i get home from work, that would be swell!
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By Nyarlko 2018-02-09 17:02:04
Cerberus.Mrkillface said: »SMN invented slavery and worships the devil. Also, I'm pretty sure SMN is behind all these school shootings and the rise in the wealth gap. It's not automobiles, SMN is releasing pollution into the air and blaming cars. SMN has secretly been behind all the major wars and even the regional ones throughout history and now SMN is trying to ruin ffxi.
WHY WON'T THE LAMESTREAM MEDIA SAY SOMETHING?!?!?
Seriously, you guys are just embarrassing yourselves.
*insert pic of Diabolos*
It's not called "slavery", it's "forming a pact". <_<
"Rise in the wealth gap", "behind all the major wars" don't seem that far off from current meta and FFXI lore tbh. lol
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 17:03:58
On easy I did 30k damage while "charging up" (no ws's)
Forceful blow after charge up only did 80 damage to me
smite > smite > light > emits miasma > firespit "KO"
 Carbuncle.Papesse
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2018-02-09 17:06:12
Mewing Lullaby doesn't fully reset Retributionist's TP.
Perhaps more enemies with that kind of resistance will be add in the future.
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By Fenrir.Cherrywine 2018-02-09 17:19:25
On easy I did 30k damage while "charging up" (no ws's)
Forceful blow after charge up only did 80 damage to me
smite > smite > light > emits miasma > firespit "KO" This sounds stupid to me even as I type it, but maybe certain types of damage don't count? Like H2H or blunt is fine but other more popular damage types are a no-no?
Oh, I misread. You didn't WS during the one move and then died even after making Light.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 17:26:10
I assume the charging up was spent on the forceful blow (since it has very weak spikes with "charging" active, and it was gone after forceful blow
And the light sc was what caused miasma, a while after the forceful blow "emitting miasma" was the immediate response to the skillchain
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By Fenrir.Cherrywine 2018-02-09 17:38:39
I think someone mentioned somewhere in this mess that casting an enfeeble ticked it right off. I know you think the skill chain set off the miasma, but did a trust or other player magic burst off of the skill chain?
By clearlyamule 2018-02-09 17:40:38
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »Mewing Lullaby doesn't fully reset Retributionist's TP.
Perhaps more enemies with that kind of resistance will be add in the future. Time for the glory of leech jug pets everywhere!
 Leviathan.Katriina
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By Leviathan.Katriina 2018-02-09 17:42:15
Physical Weapon skills and/or Enfeebling Magic causes The Retribustionist to start charging, skill chain doesn't [We Tried with SCH]
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By Sylph.Citrelautame 2018-02-09 18:09:21
ffxiah team, give ops the option to delete posts from other players in their thread <.< talk about derail as is expected from the player base any more.
So seems to me after reading what i could through the derail:
Leave unicorn for last, turn away during any charging phase? Doesnt seem anyone has found out officially what is triggering miasma tho just guessing or ideas atm? If anyone can assist in recapping it is appreciated.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 18:11:18
I had only cornelia and yoran, out, literally impossible to have had a debuff.
Charging was initiated by: nothing, or delayed
17:54:48[17:54:48] 3795 Victory Smite ¨ Bozzetto Retributionist
17:54:58[17:54:58] The boss begins charging up.
Charging ended by: Forceful Blow
17:56:26[17:56:26] [Bozzetto Retributionist] 0 Forceful Blow ¨ Yoran-Oran
17:56:26[17:56:26] AOE 80
Miasma initiated by skillchain or indirectly; hemotoxin wheel
17:58:52[17:58:52] Light: 2612 ¨ Bozzetto Retributionist
17:58:55[17:58:55] The boss begins to emit a noxious miasma.
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By Fenrir.Cherrywine 2018-02-09 18:13:41
It's a discussion thread, not an instruction manual... Most of what is known is literally on these last two pages. Also, yes, much guessing as it is day one. Go test and post what you've discovered or be guilty of the derailing you are complaining about.
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By Leviathan.Katriina 2018-02-09 18:27:54
The way its operating so far is as follows, can be confirmed by other groups if you wish:
If you do a physical WS and/or Enfeebling it generates this message:
The boss begins charging up.
If you WS/Enf. again it upgrades to "Boil Over" and gains access to [Nether Castigiation] which can be negated after 20'
If you WS/Enf. again it upgrades to "Miasma" and gains access to [Eisenschneider] which can be negated after 30'
Regarding Charger:
Absorbs damage during TP and almost all its moves are blink-able.
Ramparnt Stance takes all shadows out.
If you didn't spam Enfeebling Magic on it to force [Grace of Hera] each consecutive [Scintillant Lance] it uses gets an upgrade in damage, think of it as a counter.
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By Sylph.Citrelautame 2018-02-09 18:42:38
Ty Katriina, will update any info i find on my testing in a few hours.
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Carbuncle.Papesse
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2018-02-09 18:45:25
Mewing Lullaby actually removes 10% of the Retributionist's max TP (example: 522 > 469 > 422 > 379 > 341 etc) but works normally on the Alicorn and Snoll.
 Asura.Saevel
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-02-09 18:47:16
So Hot Shot -> Herc Slash -> True Flight with Maliase + Acumen.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 18:47:58
Leviathan.Katriina said: »The way its operating so far is as follows, can be confirmed by other groups if you wish:
If you do a physical WS and/or Enfeebling it generates this message:
The boss begins charging up.
If you WS/Enf. again it upgrades to "Boil Over" and gains access to [Nether Castigiation] which can be negated after 20'
If you WS/Enf. again it upgrades to "Miasma" and gains access to [Eisenschneider] which can be negated after 30'
Regarding Charger:
Absorbs damage during TP and almost all its moves are blink-able.
Ramparnt Stance takes all shadows out.
If you didn't spam Enfeebling Magic on it to force [Grace of Hera] each consecutive [Scintillant Lance] it uses gets an upgrade in damage, think of it as a counter.
Mine never gave boiling over at all, straight from charging to miasma
Post any findings here, I haven't seen anyone start a post yet.
Vol 1: VE - 1x Dullahan
E-VD - 1x Dullahan, 1x Monoceros
Scintillant Lance hit me for 8.7k on E (as sam)
Killed Unicorn first.
Dullahan did a warm up? Got the message: "The Boss begins to emit a noxious Miasma"
I did a light SC (not sure if this matters) and it said The miasma dissipates but its rage is begining to boil over.
Then he did Nether Castigation for 8kish damage. over
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