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 Odin.Spoiled
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By Odin.Spoiled 2017-09-11 15:46:04
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Sylph.Reain said: »
Yea seems like no essence steal and no level up if no songs/rolls/geo effects.
Tested with Songs/Rolls with no GEO bubble, Essence steal leveled him up and he took my rolls/songs. So looks like GEO bubbles, BRD songs and COR rolls make him level up.
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By clearlyamule 2017-09-11 15:47:45
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And I've had it steal rolls before. Other thefts are still annoying but can be dealt with
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By Leviathan.Sidra 2017-09-11 15:48:53
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So basically they just want us to fight it without geo cor and brd?

Go go Rdm or SMN supporting mele burns
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2017-09-11 15:52:47
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They also lvl up with Avatar's Favor buffs.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-11 16:00:15
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Leviathan.Sidra said: »
Go go Rdm or supporting mele burns

Go in with at least two or more BLU's and problem is solved. Maybe two BLU's, a RDM and a WHM with a BLM tossed in for sleeps. ES Sab Distract III should nerf their evasion for awhile, Dia III + Sweeping or even Agnon and beat the main NM down.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-09-11 16:00:19
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So they are bringing back 20 minute unbuffed 2004 melee burn fight nostalgia?

Way to bring it back to the basics. I missed the old days (rolls eyes)
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By Asura.Warusha 2017-09-11 16:01:01
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I'd try PLD RDM(distract) THF(feint) or DD with solid accuracy sets for melee.

I am interested to try MB set up too if accuracy is too much of a problem for VD.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-09-11 16:01:31
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I'm guessing SAM for Ageha would be more useful than waiting on the recast timer on Angon.
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By Leviathan.Sidra 2017-09-11 16:07:11
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Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
They also lvl up with Avatar's Favor buffs.

So no Favor, but Haste2, Crystal Blessing, and Ifrit's Warcry are kosher?
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-11 16:10:24
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I'm guessing SAM for Ageha would be more useful than waiting on the recast timer on Angon.

Whatever way of reaching pDiff cap works, we know Angon is 100% and I hope Sweeping and Ageha would be sufficient. Two BLUs would own this fight just because of MG enabling people to reach haste cap without needing BRD / GEO buffs.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2017-09-11 16:11:50
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i'm thinking rng, don't need buffs to get passable levels of accuracy or attack and it's inherently easy to support
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2017-09-11 16:12:26
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Defense down of Angon stacks with Box Step and Dia. They're all multiplicative together, right? Dia III, 10/10 Box Step, and Angon should be something around -47% defense (if they're multiplicative, really can't remember).

DNCorDRG BLU RDM BLM WHM Tank. DNC can stack Box Step and Quickstep, DRG can Angon, BLU can diffuse Mighty Guard, RDM can Haste II, Dia III, and other enfeebles, BLM silences and magic bursts off of skillchains (if those occur), and WHM can want to die inside from playing WHM. DNC and DRG would be more Defense Down, but the DRG would only be getting haste II and possibly Haste Samba, if that doesn't trigger level up, which would only be 65% haste, with the lack of Mighty Guard.

If the the DNC or the BLU is able to tank- if- then come with DNC, DRG, and BLU, and go to town. If BLU can reliably sleep, you could leave out the BLM, and come DNC DRG BLU RDM WHM Tank.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas 2017-09-11 16:13:56
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Trying out V2, the Dragon seems to have -DT. Takes more damage from Ranged when flying, but otherwise it's a slow kill. Anyone know how to help that?
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By Sylph.Reain 2017-09-11 16:15:56
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Mine exploding blue procs and wakes up all the adds. Need to WS it quickly.
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By Sylph.Reain 2017-09-11 16:22:33
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
i'm thinking rng, don't need buffs to get passable levels of accuracy or attack and it's inherently easy to support

Probably worth it just for all the perfect dodge spam if you can deal with hate reset.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-09-11 16:23:13
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If Essence Steal is what triggers the level up w/ buffs, then GEO using only Frailty should be safe, correct? This would mean BLU, Geo w/ frailty, and any other additional DD (THF for Feint, DRG/SAM/DNC/WAR for stat down) would be workable.
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By Asura.Kogasho 2017-09-11 16:31:57
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Was SMN Nerfed?
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By Asura.Avallon 2017-09-11 16:39:29
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Asura.Kogasho said: »
Was SMN Nerfed?

Yes, Avatar's Favor doesn't work on this month's Ambuscade (without negative consequences). :S
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By Asura.Sechs 2017-09-11 16:42:37
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
If Essence Steal is what triggers the level up w/ buffs, then GEO using only Frailty should be safe, correct?
They are immune to debuff bubbles (or so multiple people have reported)
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-09-11 16:45:32
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Thanks. read through this thread and made a separate post. You can add your findings there or I can edit the with anything new.

Thanks

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/51402/ambuscade-volume-1-september-2017/#3287006
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By Asura.Gotenn 2017-09-11 17:14:18
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Just to give an FYI, Cornelias Indi haste has its own icon and effect. Meaning that Indi haste (from Sylvie or player) and Haste I/II stacks with Cornelia.

If anyone can find the icon number for it, it would be much appricated so I can add the +20% of Cornelia into my haste calculations for NIN. With Haste I, Indi-Haste, and Cornelia, you gain 15%+ 28.8%+ 20%. so well over cap.
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By Odin.Spoiled 2017-09-11 17:19:59
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With Volume Two, I noticed if you have two people standing on opposite feet he takes normal damage.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2017-09-11 19:21:03
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Odin.Spoiled said: »
With Volume Two, I noticed if you have two people standing on opposite feet he takes normal damage.
New server who dis?
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2017-09-11 19:43:44
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Craftsmanship is tedious on stage 4, roughly 10 hours cycling 5 recipes nonstop but not doing objectives. You no longer get failure rate+ if you ignore the objectives, which is nice if you want to work on it but don't want to render the shield unusable while you grind through.

Have to trade your craftsman's crystal to mewk chorosap, which unlocks an incredibly convoluted system that seems akin to skillchaining with your craft elements.

Would have spoiler tagged, but people have been saying they're broken/unreliable lately. She has some additional info when you talk to her, but it seems like it'll be a headache.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2017-09-11 19:58:25
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Ftr Spoilers break when people use equipsets on the same page. It has been that way for ages.
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By Sylph.Talym 2017-09-11 20:00:37
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We got this ***instead of actual content?
God dammit SE.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2017-09-11 22:54:01
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The rams are high level and always open with HP down, so have trusts out before engaging. They don't always spawn around the craig, Landon was at G-9.
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By Kimmy78 2017-09-11 23:10:22
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Can't trade Level 90 Relic +2 to the Porter Moogle with Storage Slip 13 - there has to be a bug
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tesseracta 2017-09-11 23:15:26
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Kimmy78 said: »
Can't trade Level 90 Relic +2 to the Porter Moogle with Storage Slip 13 - there has to be a bug
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Storage_Slip_13

Allows players to store Relic Armor +2 only if it has been augmented via Trial of the Magians.

That's probably why.
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