Political Discussion Thread

I don't like politics, and what you are talking about looks like general politic princples. I respect you for your knowledge in this manner, and I won't disagree with you on this either.

What I'm saying is basically this: I don't like how this country is being run. What can I do about it? I can voice my opinion to people who matter. I have already stated that I have done all I can honestly do about this situation.

What else can I do? I can voice my opinion to people who don't matter. That means you guys. We, according to the government's eye, are mindless dribble who vote for them once every 2/4/6 years. Their only job really is to get re-elected.

America desided that it didn't want another 4 years of "Bush policies" so it elected people WAY outside of the "Bush policies." I would have voted for Obama too if it was just based on that priniple. Unfortunally, its not. He made promises that he is going to improve the economy without saying details. McCain said details, but it was "Bush policies" that people didn't like. Now, we have to deal with "Obama policies." I gave you the numbers and facts saying why this is going to fail. There is nothing more I can do to this point.

Its up to you to decypher this and see if this is how you would like the USA to go. My opinions are my opinions, not yours. I didn't grow up the same way you did. I am not living the life you are living. If you want this, then accept it. If you don't want this, then talk to the right people about changing it. Don't re-elect the same people for this job. Have your congressmen fight to block it.

This is my point in it all. I'm not happy, so I'm changing it. If you are not happy either, then you change it too. If you are happy, then don't do anything.

All right!

Question from the north! Why Americans are abusing the word "socialist" so much right now when talking about Obama? They just like the word or they don't really understand what is going on? ^^;

@Liquidz: It's just a form of smear campaign against the left, very much like McCarthyism where you spam a buzzword that Americans "don't like because it reminds us of 'other countries'" in order to relate something they don't like (usually for reasons not understood by them) to current politics. Case in point being a woman that was brought onto a various news-stations whom at a townhall meeting said we weren't living the way our Constitution intended and were afraid we'd become a socialist country like Russia. Only Russia isn't socialist. lol American arrogance at its finest if you ask me. D:

I just don't see Obama's ideas as socialist. Let's take raising taxes for the richest 5% and redistributing that income to the rest of the country(might look Robin Hoodish at first sight yea but I just see it as a way to motivate the economy, to lessen income disparities for a bit so even the poorest people will put money back in the whole machine. In the long run it will all go back to the richest people anyway. That's still pretty much capitalism to me.

But, when something that works and works WELL in the private sector becomes part of the public sector, then thats a no-no.

A good example of public and private sector is mail, i can mail a letter for 41 cent at a baseline level of service, BUT if I'd like more options or faster service you can go to fed ex ect to do that, they all seem to do fine with having to deal with a "public option"

Does he want things like I wrote to be temporary measures or permanent? Because I was seeing it as temporary.

Are you saying that US current health care system is working well?(not stating a fact, I don't know your position on it). I am not pronouncing myself too much about this but when you come from a place where health care is "free" it's hard to understand why a country as proud as the USA is leaving some of their own people in troubles... Don't tell me that everyone who can't get good health care coverage is in that situation because they just did not put in the efforts.

We have "free, taxpayer healthcare" now as it is. Its called Medicaid. Is it perfect? No. Do we want this to be our only option? HELL NO. Will this be our only option? Yes, because the government WILL drive the private sector out of business.

A good example of public and private sector is mail, i can mail a letter for 41 cent at a baseline level of service, BUT if I'd like more options or faster service you can go to fed ex ect to do that, they all seem to do fine with having to deal with a "public option"

I'd add to that that I understand people don't wanna pay for the ones who did not put in the efforts but it would be very complicated and expansive to figure out a way to only really help the right people.

Don't get me wrong if I had to get any kind of complicated operation or anything I would love to be treated in the USA. I understand what you mean by saying that your health care system is going very well. But here only people with real good income can afford treatments in the USA. About the governement bringing the private sector out of business, are you sure there's no way to find a good balance between both? It is current system or the fall of the private sector in the US? If that's what you think I would like you to explain me why you think that.