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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-07-30 16:19:22
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Luvbunny1 said: »
The game has changed quite a bit now. And you do need a good social LS and the ability to make a few friends and being social to other player in the game. If you can do that then there are literally gazilion things for you to do from old content to new content.

A lot of people said Abyssea is too easy and can be soloed etc... which is true if you have been there from the start and get everything you wanted. As returning player, you may be in a bit of a struggle in the beginning, but if you can make a few friends, then Abyssea would be very fun playground for you. Voidwatch would be the struggle you will face if you want to do it since it requires 12-18 people and the popularity has died down a lot (until SE fix R/M/E - and quadruple the damage, then you will see VW shouts daily every hour). Legion is pretty much a rare thing, so is Neo Einherjar, Neo Limbus etc... Dynamis you can solo daily. Neo Nyzul you just need a group of friends. If you can make 5 friends and static the game is pure joy and extremely addictive.

Seekers of Adoulin content was way too rough at launch but it is getting better and better with every update. It will probably gets better later. So far it is more targeted to players who have completed the Abusea, Neo Dyna, Neo Nyzul, Legion... But there are plenty of content for casuals and newbie as well. This expansion is literally handing out the best gears to you at this point, WoW style. You have to do a bit of work - but it is totally doable if you put some time gearing up your character. Support jobs and healers (plus paladin) is highly sought after.

If you like FFXI before then you will love it again, but if you just want to sit AFK doing nothing but having an e-peen shout contest, and expecting gears to be delivered to your moogle box, then don't come back lol. It is social game, if you can't make friends, then it is going to be a rough experience.

Got to agree with Lubunny1 here, and we disagree on alot!

Finding good players, who aren't D bags is your biggest challenge, I know when I returned I had some major assistance from Dilios, Mariketa, Tenini and Chait (just a few of my favourite people in game)

If I could only give you one piece of advice, it would be to spam Adoulin reives and Rank your fame up asap. You can go to WKR with enough bayld and if you have WHm and COR you could easily get in those shouts requiring 100+ people to gring a NM like PW for 6~9 hours.
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By Leviathan.Phineus 2013-07-30 16:26:53
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Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Luvbunny1 said: »
The game has changed quite a bit now. And you do need a good social LS and the ability to make a few friends and being social to other player in the game. If you can do that then there are literally gazilion things for you to do from old content to new content.

A lot of people said Abyssea is too easy and can be soloed etc... which is true if you have been there from the start and get everything you wanted. As returning player, you may be in a bit of a struggle in the beginning, but if you can make a few friends, then Abyssea would be very fun playground for you. Voidwatch would be the struggle you will face if you want to do it since it requires 12-18 people and the popularity has died down a lot (until SE fix R/M/E - and quadruple the damage, then you will see VW shouts daily every hour). Legion is pretty much a rare thing, so is Neo Einherjar, Neo Limbus etc... Dynamis you can solo daily. Neo Nyzul you just need a group of friends. If you can make 5 friends and static the game is pure joy and extremely addictive.

Seekers of Adoulin content was way too rough at launch but it is getting better and better with every update. It will probably gets better later. So far it is more targeted to players who have completed the Abusea, Neo Dyna, Neo Nyzul, Legion... But there are plenty of content for casuals and newbie as well. This expansion is literally handing out the best gears to you at this point, WoW style. You have to do a bit of work - but it is totally doable if you put some time gearing up your character. Support jobs and healers (plus paladin) is highly sought after.

If you like FFXI before then you will love it again, but if you just want to sit AFK doing nothing but having an e-peen shout contest, and expecting gears to be delivered to your moogle box, then don't come back lol. It is social game, if you can't make friends, then it is going to be a rough experience.

Got to agree with Lubunny1 here, and we disagree on alot!

Finding good players, who aren't D bags is your biggest challenge, I know when I returned I had some major assistance from Dilios, Mariketa, Tenini and Chait (just a few of my favourite people in game)

If I could only give you one piece of advice, it would be to spam Adoulin reives and Rank your fame up asap. You can go to WKR with enough bayld and if you have WHm and COR you could easily get in those shouts requiring 100+ people to gring a NM like PW for 6~9 hours.

This should definitely be your focus if you're coming back. You'll most likely have to play a support job while you get gear for other jobs, but I wouldn't try catching up by spamming old content.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-30 16:28:12
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Bahamut.Rocha said: »
We'll as the topic states I haven't played in probably idk 2 to 3 years and I kind of been wanting to play again but i don't know if I should.
Why don't you keep enjoying some MVC2MAHVEL?
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By Leviathan.Celille 2013-07-30 16:34:27
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Why don't you keep enjoying some MVC2MAHVEL?

Wait what?! I HEARD MAHVEL! WHEN'S MAHVEL?!?! WHEN'S MAHVEL?!?!
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By Lakshmi.Konvict 2013-07-30 16:57:35
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All these people saying the game is "the best game ever" clearly are new school bandwagon players. Prolly some Oatixur MNKs thinkin they the ***. The amount of change this game has taken since I've been playing in 2003 2004 is dumb stupid. No challenges at all, no skill needed. COMPLETELY different from the old days...
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-30 17:16:14
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Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
All these people saying the game is "the best game ever" clearly are new school bandwagon players. Prolly some Oatixur MNKs thinkin they the ***. The amount of change this game has taken since I've been playing in 2003 2004 is dumb stupid. No challenges at all, no skill needed. COMPLETELY different from the old days...

I been playing this game since the beginning, still the best :)
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By Ravenn42 2013-07-30 17:47:16
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Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
All these people saying the game is "the best game ever" clearly are new school bandwagon players. Prolly some Oatixur MNKs thinkin they the ***. The amount of change this game has taken since I've been playing in 2003 2004 is dumb stupid. No challenges at all, no skill needed. COMPLETELY different from the old days...

Its a video game that people still play 10 years later and pay monthly fees to do so.... ya id say its still a great game... Things were different in the past but not all of it was good. When I am done with a game I dont go on forums and cry about it for months I move on....
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-07-30 18:05:21
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I lost. Thanks for reminding me.
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By Leviathan.Phineus 2013-07-30 18:05:35
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Sorry, but i've been playing since NA release as well. Even through the changes it's still a great game.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-30 18:12:56
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Leviathan.Celille said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Why don't you keep enjoying some MVC2MAHVEL?

Wait what?! I HEARD MAHVEL! WHEN'S MAHVEL?!?! WHEN'S MAHVEL?!?!
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2013-07-30 19:08:38
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Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
All these people saying the game is "the best game ever" clearly are new school bandwagon players. Prolly some Oatixur MNKs thinkin they the ***. The amount of change this game has taken since I've been playing in 2003 2004 is dumb stupid. No challenges at all, no skill needed. COMPLETELY different from the old days...
It's the "best game ATM" for Draylo , which i think is sarcasm of blind negation. Most people agree that ffxi is not worth to come back
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By Garuda.Chanti 2013-07-30 19:20:59
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Again, been in since NA release.

FFXI isn't what it was but nothing else out there interests me currently save FFXIV ARR.

No, not a FF fangirl, the only FFs I have played are XI and XIV. Only other MMO that captured me was WAR. Then it lost me and over 1m others as well.

My interest in FFXI waxes and wanes along with my time in game, but I have never ever stopped my subscription.
 
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By Leviathan.Vaudianx 2013-07-30 20:54:46
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At the people saying no the game sucks etc, why you still posting in a dead games forum?
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By Leviathan.Vaudianx 2013-07-30 21:09:04
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Lakshmi.Cledant said: »
Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
All these people saying the game is "the best game ever" clearly are new school bandwagon players. Prolly some Oatixur MNKs thinkin they the ***. The amount of change this game has taken since I've been playing in 2003 2004 is dumb stupid. No challenges at all, no skill needed. COMPLETELY different from the old days...
It's the "best game ATM" for Draylo , which i think is sarcasm of blind negation. Most people agree that ffxi is not worth to come back

If anything, now is the time to come back/start anew. Shits much easier now, can get up to speed pretty fast...
 
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-30 21:21:51
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Leviathan.Vaudianx said: »
At the people saying no the game sucks etc, why you still posting in a dead games forum?
You're one slow comrade.

This has been explained so many times.

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Lakshmi.Cledant said: »
Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
All these people saying the game is "the best game ever" clearly are new school bandwagon players. Prolly some Oatixur MNKs thinkin they the ***. The amount of change this game has taken since I've been playing in 2003 2004 is dumb stupid. No challenges at all, no skill needed. COMPLETELY different from the old days...
It's the "best game ATM" for Draylo , which i think is sarcasm of blind negation. Most people agree that ffxi is not worth to come back

If anything, now is the time to come back/start anew. Shits much easier now, can get up to speed pretty fast...
Problem is, fast or not, who would want to?

Not that many people according to numbers, unfortunately.

Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
When mog bonanza first started, rank 3 prize was a xarc relic armor piece.

this month SE gave you 40 of those same items of your choice just for logging in. (100 points each, 4000 points given for the month of logins)
One of the good ideas along with double plan salvage.

They need to make these ideas permanent though, or make them happen much more often. It's very good when they lift some of the burden, but it needs to be lifted more often, and some of it should be lifted forever.
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By runeghost 2013-07-30 23:06:10
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Hey Rocha *wave* I posted similar things and decided to come back for a month (Check here http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/39350/considering-coming-back/ if you want).
After spending a bit here and there for most of a month... I will probably let it lapse again. The game itself is still fun. The game itself has lots of things to do. That being said, almost nobody does them. Old things like (inhale) WoE,Assault,Kings,Einherjar,NeoEinherjar,Dynamis,NeoDynamis,Nyzul,NeoNyzul,Sky,Sea,Limbus,NeoLimbus,Salvage,NeoSalvage,BCNM,ZNM(like Pandemonium), and lots of things that have slipped my mind... no one does any of them.
Getting around is trivial(they have a quest where you can now teleport pretty much anywhere now), but all the zones are empty. There are still people finishing off abyssea stuff, but other than that everyone is in the new place, where new stuff is so much better that if you don't already have it you won't get in a group to get it.
As well, friends lists are vacant, linkshells are cracked...

The game is still fun, but unless you are going to invest the time you used to, and are prepared to join a new LS (or your old friends list is much more active than mine, and I think they overlap a bit), just imagine running from one empty zone to another... or being told that you can not possibly be good enough to do the new stuff because you don't have the new stuff (circular logic but the way people are).

I am glad to see your name tho =)
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By Kimble2013 2013-07-30 23:08:50
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game sucks. Stay far, far away.
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By runeghost 2013-07-30 23:20:31
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I should add a bit more to give actual numbers rather than just saying "old stuff is useless". Lets say that instead of a full Empy weapon you did the WoE knock off for Great Axe - So level 99 Shamash is 144 damage, 504 delay; still gives Ukko, but no aftermath and 12 less damage(Compare to 99 Ukonvasara with Damage 156, 482 delay and +20 str). Not -as- useful but ok to have around.
The new Great Axe is Ixtab with Damage 245 (over a hundred more!) Delay 504, str+12, vit+12, store tp +8 and...wait for it... Great Axe skill +188 (so +188 accuracy, +188 damage) AND +188 parrying. And yeah, people do have them.
It isn't like Relic Vs Crimson vs Endiku or something like that... it is closer to AF vs Empy+2 armor.


I really feel that (1) if you have been gone more than a few months it would be easier to start over than to try and catch up and (2) anything you hadn't done before you will never get to do.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-30 23:23:46
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Lakshmi.Cledant said: »
Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
All these people saying the game is "the best game ever" clearly are new school bandwagon players. Prolly some Oatixur MNKs thinkin they the ***. The amount of change this game has taken since I've been playing in 2003 2004 is dumb stupid. No challenges at all, no skill needed. COMPLETELY different from the old days...
It's the "best game ATM" for Draylo , which i think is sarcasm of blind negation. Most people agree that ffxi is not worth to come back

sarcasm of blind negation? lol
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-07-30 23:26:13
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XI is one of the best MMO's out there still. Even since the adoulin expansion, it will soon sink in as a 'here to stay' product.

'nuff said.
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By Kalila 2013-07-30 23:38:23
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Again, been in since NA release.

FFXI isn't what it was but nothing else out there interests me currently save FFXIV ARR.

No, not a FF fangirl, the only FFs I have played are XI and XIV. Only other MMO that captured me was WAR. Then it lost me and over 1m others as well.

My interest in FFXI waxes and wanes along with my time in game, but I have never ever stopped my subscription.
How does one get into a final fantasy online game without touching a final fantasy game in their life?

It's very... odd to say the least.

You're also not the first person I've met that has said that either, I just don't understand how it even happens.
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By Ragnarok.Hotkarl 2013-07-30 23:50:00
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It kinda sucks now, but Evan in its garbage state it's better then Any other MMO on the market. So I guess if your itching for an MMO pick it up again.
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2013-07-30 23:55:19
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I like it more now then six months ago or pre 75 because the game is less luck based and more based on progression. VW was just hoping you got your drop, plasma is more of a grind. Of course there will always be a little bit of one over the other (you can always play luck with KC drop) but usually a majority of the content seems to favor one over the other. I guess it depends on what kind of game you like.

Progression is nice because you can play 1 hour(Delve plasma farm) and everytime have it still actually mean something.
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By Luvbunny1 2013-07-31 02:05:02
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Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
All these people saying the game is "the best game ever" clearly are new school bandwagon players. Prolly some Oatixur MNKs thinkin they the ***. The amount of change this game has taken since I've been playing in 2003 2004 is dumb stupid. No challenges at all, no skill needed. COMPLETELY different from the old days...

OK then mister, try to beat those fracture bosses... and come back share us your strategy. Would love to hear if you can actually do that. There has not been any NA/EU LS in Bahamut that can beat Tojil, which is the easiest of the 3 Nakuals Fracture, a few gotten it very close to 30-20% HP. Only Japan LS beat it. The game has been made easier to level, but that does not mean you should not think, ZOMG ilevel 106 - everything is easy peasy, spam WS 100TP, yay I am invincible lol. A lot of people just reach level 99 but never bother to learn the jobs. If you look at FFXI AH forum, on each jobs section there are tons of guide written by members. There are a lot to learn just by reading it, and then you still have to do it in practice. Don't get your rose tinted colored glasses of the good old days muddling the fact that there are still some challenges in the game.
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2013-07-31 02:18:55
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Luvbunny1 said: »
Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
All these people saying the game is "the best game ever" clearly are new school bandwagon players. Prolly some Oatixur MNKs thinkin they the ***. The amount of change this game has taken since I've been playing in 2003 2004 is dumb stupid. No challenges at all, no skill needed. COMPLETELY different from the old days...

OK then mister, try to beat those fracture bosses... and come back share us your strategy. Would love to hear if you can actually do that. There has not been any NA/EU LS in Bahamut that can beat Tojil, which is the easiest of the 3 Nakuals Fracture, a few gotten it very close to 30-20% HP. Only Japan LS beat it. The game has been made easier to level, but that does not mean you should not think, ZOMG ilevel 106 - everything is easy peasy, spam WS 100TP, yay I am invincible lol. A lot of people just reach level 99 but never bother to learn the jobs. If you look at FFXI AH forum, on each jobs section there are tons of guide written by members. There are a lot to learn just by reading it, and then you still have to do it in practice. Don't get your rose tinted colored glasses of the good old days muddling the fact that there are still some challenges in the game.

Just for the sake of pointing it out, Dreamatorium cleared Tojil at least 2 times recently as far as I know. They're definitely not a JP linkshell.
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By Luvbunny1 2013-07-31 03:34:15
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Allright :) mind sharing the experience to the general public?
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By Shiva.Shinsonja 2013-07-31 05:44:47
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seems casual players have been shunned even more of late, realistically its a mmo I should not complain, for SE's sake I hope the organised minority that can indeed enjoy current endgame content are enough to keep the money rolling in, I have quit quite a few times in the past but can safely say I am done for good.
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