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 Asura.Hoshiku
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2013-07-03 17:23:22
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Surfing! Not that I blame them... panacea has gotten crazy pricey on asura.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-03 17:25:10
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The *** is surfing, did I miss something? '-';
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2013-07-03 17:26:02
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Oh haha sorry. When you fail to remove bind and keep running it looks like you're surfing to everyone else.
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By macsdf1 2013-07-03 17:41:24
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Should be banning fishbotters rather than afk skillinguppers
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By Odin.Boleslaus 2013-07-03 17:42:33
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so glad i dont afk skill up there i go in there sometimes and just send tells to everyone and watch what they do >.>
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-03 17:45:11
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macsdf1 said: »
Should be banning fishbotters rather than afk skillinguppers

Do this and watch the server populations crash even more. It's that rampant (at least on my server).
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-03 17:48:02
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I always warn people to not skillup in parts of/areas with actual content associated with them...but nobody listens to me cause other people do it there and they dont get caught! (One of my friends thought he got a tempban for skillbotting in aby-empyreal..turned out someone copied his IP and did HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE things.But now he definitely doesnt skill there anymore.)
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-03 17:48:06
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TBH, they should just get on board and add a Mog House, Auction House + Delivery NPC, Vendors, and perhaps even a city-mission line for Beaucedine Glacierville.
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By macsdf1 2013-07-03 17:51:03
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Siren.Knivesz said: »
macsdf1 said: »
Should be banning fishbotters rather than afk skillinguppers

Do this and watch the server populations crash even more. It's that rampant (at least on my server).

Good riddance to them?
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By Heimdel 2013-07-03 17:57:04
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What they should do is enact a tiered skill up system in campaign with increased skill rate. Have it so different regions cap at different skill levels. It would be somethings like outside citys is the lowest mid lands like Sau/pash/rolan and such be mid range then have outlands be high and strongholds/citys be cap. This would both ideally revive campaign and wings zones in general but also make skilling up somewhat fun.
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By Heimdel 2013-07-03 17:58:32
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macsdf1 said: »
Siren.Knivesz said: »
macsdf1 said: »
Should be banning fishbotters rather than afk skillinguppers

Do this and watch the server populations crash even more. It's that rampant (at least on my server).

Good riddance to them?

Already seems to be crashing or at least declining with the beta of 14 being out. Been seeing lower linkshell counts and few people showing for events.
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By Odin.Boleslaus 2013-07-03 17:59:44
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would be nice if u could skill up in reives i dont think they implemented that yet
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2013-07-03 18:09:12
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This is why you #1 have an idle set.

Odin.Hirokei said: »
Skilling up is hard.

More like, "Skilling up is a waste of my limited time on earth" whats with people defending time sinks/money grab? So dumb.
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2013-07-03 18:22:28
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i saw this coming, used to afk at the paradox but out of the area, very far away
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2013-07-03 18:47:55
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Lakshmi.Cledant said: »
i saw this coming, used to afk at the paradox but out of the area, very far away

Clipped through the wall and ran a long way away, so ppl couldn't see you?
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By Sylph.Ice 2013-07-03 19:09:41
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macsdf1 said: »
Siren.Knivesz said: »
macsdf1 said: »
Should be banning fishbotters rather than afk skillinguppers

Do this and watch the server populations crash even more. It's that rampant (at least on my server).

Good riddance to them?
How about you go die in a ***infested water?
EDIT: I'm sorry, that was too mean. I hope a wild Gyarados eats you slowly.
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2013-07-03 19:11:19
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macsdf1 said: »
Should be banning fishbotters rather than afk skillinguppers

I think SE chooses not to ban fishbots at this point because if they do, that's a chunk of their income gone. There are 60 people going in Beaucedine at any time of the day on Lakshmi, that's $780 a month they'd lose on just one server. ***wouldn't have made a difference back in the day when fishbots actually did get banned because they had so many subscriptions, but these days they'll take whatever they can get lol.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-07-03 19:17:27
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FFXI: Please don't bot, we'll have to keep suspending you because we can't afford to lose your account fees.

Any Other MMO: Peace, yo.

They have banned some fishbots recently, and they'll probably continue to do so. They won't mass ban them for the reason watusa said, but you're lying to yourself if you think nobody ever gets hit.
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By Heimdel 2013-07-03 19:19:15
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Lakshmi.Watusa said: »
macsdf1 said: »
Should be banning fishbotters rather than afk skillinguppers

I think SE chooses not to ban fishbots at this point because if they do, that's a chunk of their income gone. There are 60 people going in Beaucedine at any time of the day on Lakshmi, that's $780 a month they'd lose on just one server. ***wouldn't have made a difference back in the day when fishbots actually did get banned because they had so many subscriptions, but these days they'll take whatever they can get lol.

Wasn't the rmt fisher back then all running on trial accounts and that why they banned so much.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2013-07-03 20:05:05
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Lakshmi.Watusa said: »
macsdf1 said: »
Should be banning fishbotters rather than afk skillinguppers

I think SE chooses not to ban fishbots at this point because if they do, that's a chunk of their income gone. There are 60 people going in Beaucedine at any time of the day on Lakshmi, that's $780 a month they'd lose on just one server. ***wouldn't have made a difference back in the day when fishbots actually did get banned because they had so many subscriptions, but these days they'll take whatever they can get lol.


They do ban fishbot, and banning cheaters actully gives more income in the long run.....nobody want to play an MMO that cheaters gets an advantage, you'd lose more sub if you don't enforce your law.
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2013-07-03 20:07:12
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Lakshmi.Cledant said: »
i saw this coming, used to afk at the paradox but out of the area, very far away
yes , to make it less obvious, there's bad people that reports and stuff like that, but still it's not safe to clip the wall
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By Quiznor 2013-07-03 20:07:44
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I hope in XIV they have a near cheat proof method of ***,or that they actually have the ability (re:ps2 limitations) to actually determine and follow through on them.
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2013-07-03 20:08:49
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Quiznor said: »
I hope in XIV they have a near cheat proof method of ***,or that they actually have the ability (re:ps2 limitations) to actually determine and follow through on them.
1.0/1.23 used to be server side. yet a lot of hacking was going on there, fish botting and landscaping alterations/speeding around. i don't know anyone yet that got banned for that
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By Fenrir.Moldtech 2013-07-03 20:16:07
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Odin.Boleslaus said: »
would be nice if u could skill up in reives i dont think they implemented that yet

No, they have skilling up blocked like campaign, totally lame imo
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2013-07-03 20:16:21
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Lakshmi.Watusa said: »
macsdf1 said: »
Should be banning fishbotters rather than afk skillinguppers

I think SE chooses not to ban fishbots at this point because if they do, that's a chunk of their income gone. There are 60 people going in Beaucedine at any time of the day on Lakshmi, that's $780 a month they'd lose on just one server. ***wouldn't have made a difference back in the day when fishbots actually did get banned because they had so many subscriptions, but these days they'll take whatever they can get lol.


They do ban fishbot, and banning cheaters actully gives more income in the long run.....nobody want to play an MMO that cheaters gets an advantage, you'd lose more sub if you don't enforce your law.
In the past, yeah this used to be the case. Nobody really gives a ***anymore in 2013. You used to go out of your way to hide the fact you botted back in the day, now it's common knowledge that pretty much every fisherman in Beaucedine is a bot.

Profit > Enforcing your terms of service on a dying game. At any time they could do just one sweep of Beaucedine on every server and get rid of everyone if they really gave a ***, but they haven't. I think they only really bother checking if someone's a *** and calls a GM on you.
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By missdivine 2013-07-03 20:21:47
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Lakshmi.Watusa said: »
macsdf1 said: »
Should be banning fishbotters rather than afk skillinguppers

I think SE chooses not to ban fishbots at this point because if they do, that's a chunk of their income gone. There are 60 people going in Beaucedine at any time of the day on Lakshmi, that's $780 a month they'd lose on just one server. ***wouldn't have made a difference back in the day when fishbots actually did get banned because they had so many subscriptions, but these days they'll take whatever they can get lol.


They do ban fishbot, and banning cheaters actully gives more income in the long run.....nobody want to play an MMO that cheaters gets an advantage, you'd lose more sub if you don't enforce your law.
that used to be around 2003-2009 but not anymore. they used to mass ban around 1-2k accounts each month. Pol had a taskforce for that. now none of that can be seen. se cant afford to lose more income
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-03 20:26:35
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Honestly,if you are AFK skilling without ionis in an adoulin area for the (insert duration of ionis) you arent really getting much done anyway...Ionis+magic skillup items + food = a shittun of skills in that (insert duration of ionis here) period.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-03 20:54:00
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The skill up process is stupidly unbalanced. I don't fault skill-up botters. Fishbotters or others who are screwing up the economy (and then acting like lolelitists) deserve to get banned and forced to wear a dunce cap.
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By Heimdel 2013-07-03 22:22:37
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It seems like people are getting the difference of fish botters and the RMT fish spam armys that there use to be. These RMT armys were what the mass monthly bannings and task force were all about. Also not to mention them inflating the game economy ridiculous levels. Anyone want a scorp harness for 5-10 mill?
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-07-03 22:26:19
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protip: most of the fishbotters ARE rmting

on leviathan, for example, there are currently 6 owned by the same person fishing and that's all going straight to china

on quetz, there's someone with ~8

hakuryu go directly to gil, which increases the amount in circulation.. the current fishbotters are much more damaging than the old ones

the old school sole bots just sold to other players, the inflation back then was caused by an exploit where you could purchase barone from a npc in tavnazia and resell it for higher than the purchase price

if you want to take a realistic look at it, the only reason they aren't banned is because SE's acknowledged that the playerbase loves to rmt, loves to cheat, and those that will get pissed enough to leave over it have already done so: its just lowering their net subs to ban them

all they do is a periodic scare-ban or wave of such, rarely with any permanents, so they can pretend they're doing something about it to the starcade-type nutjobs that are left
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