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 Sylph.Talon
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By Sylph.Talon 2013-07-03 15:25:13
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Hey all,

I just wanted to give you a heads up that GM's are heavily monitoring Empyreal Paradox for skill up bots.

Just a friendly reminder. I believe we have all gotten use to spellcast and its friendly skill up xml files but would hate to see anyone get burned.

Ballkicker, Magrand, and Agamemnon have gotten the boot to date.
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By Valefor.Fmaxgluttony 2013-07-03 15:33:58
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Well damn I read Ballkicker as Balllicker...
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-03 15:45:34
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Yeah its apparently the same GM going around all servers and asking each person if they are there. Someone told me they use a dialog box as well lol, pretty hilarious.
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By Asura.Thatman 2013-07-03 15:47:51
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Agamemnon has been banned? It's about time we got rid of Peter Griffin.
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By Odin.Hirokei 2013-07-03 15:48:05
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Skilling up is hard.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-07-03 15:53:44
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I'm not surprised, however, I've seen people running skill bots IN Jeuno. A few rogue crackdowns aren't going to change anything.
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-03 15:53:54
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Odin.Hirokei said: »
Skilling up is hard.

Said No one. Ever.
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By Asura.Gabba 2013-07-03 15:53:58
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glad all my magic skills are capped.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-03 15:54:44
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-07-03 15:56:18
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Drakenyte, really?
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By Cerberus.Pukushu 2013-07-03 15:56:44
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I never understood why anyone would use a skill up bot in a zone where there is moderate foot traffic and its pretty obvious that you are botting. Its not like its hard to equip refresh gear and rest mp.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-07-03 15:59:03
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SoA has better skill rates anyhow
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 Odin.Jassik
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-07-03 15:59:07
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Cerberus.Pukushu said: »
I never understood why anyone would use a skill up bot in a zone where there is moderate foot traffic and its pretty obvious that you are botting. Its not like its hard to equip refresh gear and rest mp.

Because its quick and easy to get to, people using bots to skill are generally after the quick fix. It would be safer to AFK in some dark reaches in Aht Urgan, but they take time to get to, have agressive mobs, etc.
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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2013-07-03 16:02:16
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Yeah this sort of after the fact enforcement that SE always rolls out 2 years or more late baffles me.

People blinkerize cruor to gil forever then they ban people.

Nyzul uncharted gets it's proverbial back door violated. Then once most people have the gear they crack down.

Abyssea retardifies xp to the point where regular xp parties are practically nonexistent so players/rmt's FC burn to pick up that slack. SE bans that waaay later effectively douching anyone who might like to use that service.

IDK I never understand their thought process on these things.
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By Heimdel 2013-07-03 16:03:39
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Would love to know the thinking SE puts into the whole skill up system to begin with. We'll add a ridiculously hard and time consuming thing that has nothing to really do with actual game play and then make it illegal for anyone to try to come up with a way to make it reasonable and time efficient to do. All while making a login screen that says don't spend all your time playing our game.
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By Asura.Gabba 2013-07-03 16:04:42
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Bahamut.Fistandantilus said: »
Yeah this sort of after the fact enforcement that SE always rolls out 2 years or more late baffles me.

People blinkerize cruor to gil forever then they ban people.

Nyzul uncharted gets it's proverbial back door violated. Then once most people have the gear they crack down.

Abyssea retardifies xp to the point where regular xp parties are practically nonexistent so players/rmt's FC burn to pick up that slack. SE bans that waaay later effectively douching anyone who might like to use that service.

IDK I never understand their thought process on these things.

better late than never? lol..
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By Siren.Taruina 2013-07-03 16:09:38
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Hate to say, but if you afk skilled in paradox, you deserved it~
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-07-03 16:09:59
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It took me nearly 3 straight days to cap geo and handbell skill. After burning through 2 stacks of skill food(with food duration+), I just said screw it and left my alt on 24/7 till it was done. Granted, I don't script in areas with heavy traffic... In fact I find the most remote locations possible that have likely only seen adventurers who have forgotten their map.

But really if they have a problem with people scripting skilling up, perhaps they should fix the reason people do it. It would take years of playing a job normally to cap skills. Hell my alt's healing skill STILL isn't capped. And I really feel for smns...
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-07-03 16:11:09
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Heimdel said: »
Would love to know the thinking SE puts into the whole skill up system to begin with. We'll add a ridiculously hard and time consuming thing that has nothing to really do with actual game play and then make it illegal for anyone to try to come up with a way to make it reasonable and time efficient to do. All while making a login screen that says don't spend all your time playing our game.

Aside from healing skill and maybe ranged, NO skill requires you to do anything but PLAY THE JOB to cap skills. BLU skill is a joke to cap, you'll cap it before you learn the spells up to 50.

People cast 2 or 3 barspells and don't get a 25 skillup and think the system is broken.
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-03 16:19:51
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I capped most of my pocket mage's magic skills via skill up bot in the paradox except for stuff like bard/geo instruments which cap faster if you spam spell on mobs. For those I wrote or modified scripts so that it spams spells on mobs in aby and i just tossed three regen atmas on myself and came back 2 hrs later. Oddly enough though I never had to do that for healing magic as some people imply here. That actually capped on its own for my pocket mage.
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2013-07-03 16:47:47
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Isn't this kind of ***a 3 strike rule? I always thought you get 2 temp bans for 3rd party programs before the perma.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-07-03 17:00:03
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I miss this zone.
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2013-07-03 17:00:52
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My pocket mage's healing skill is still not capped and I've had her on whm pretty constantly since I got her in Feb and she has magic skillup earring equipped :X
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By Dantedmc 2013-07-03 17:11:17
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Aside from healing skill and maybe ranged, NO skill requires you to do anything but PLAY THE JOB to cap skills. BLU skill is a joke to cap, you'll cap it before you learn the spells up to 50.

People cast 2 or 3 barspells and don't get a 25 skillup and think the system is broken.

Never played smn or geo have you?
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By Heimdel 2013-07-03 17:14:20
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Heimdel said: »
Would love to know the thinking SE puts into the whole skill up system to begin with. We'll add a ridiculously hard and time consuming thing that has nothing to really do with actual game play and then make it illegal for anyone to try to come up with a way to make it reasonable and time efficient to do. All while making a login screen that says don't spend all your time playing our game.

Aside from healing skill and maybe ranged, NO skill requires you to do anything but PLAY THE JOB to cap skills. BLU skill is a joke to cap, you'll cap it before you learn the spells up to 50.

People cast 2 or 3 barspells and don't get a 25 skillup and think the system is broken.

Healing/enfeebling/divine/sommoning/enhancing/and elemental now a days. Then you have both pup and geo that are very reliant on their skill level but slow to cap because the nature of the way the skill is used. Pup alone has 3 separate skill catagorys it has to cap essentially separately. Bard I don't know enough on how skills work to comment.

Then we have melee skills guard/parry/club/staff all of which that basically unless you go out specifically to skill them they won't get caped.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-03 17:14:32
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This is why you skill up in exotic locations:



Solanis and I took the wild, wild world of Vana'diel tour while skilling GEO. Of course, we weren't AFK but we didn't want to get grouped in with the people being banned in Paradox.
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By Odin.Calipso 2013-07-03 17:15:04
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Se has been hitting people in paradox for awhile now, but for whatever recently it's much more common for people to skill up there.

With the addition of abyssea and the ability to burn any job to 99 in a day, se should really be reconsidering skills and how skillups work.

That being said, it's pretty silly to afk in a high traffic area with a script running without some sort of tell/alarm set >_>
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-07-03 17:20:02
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I do my afk skillups in Fort Karugo-Narugo where it's only me and the Vorpal Bunnies. And they know how to keep secrets.
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2013-07-03 17:21:33
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TBH if SE wants to catch people doing bad things I don't know why they're not just hanging out in Cirdas_U? I guess they'll start that in another two years lol.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-03 17:22:40
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What are people doing in Cirdas_U? <_>
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