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By Quiznor 2013-04-02 14:21:31
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Shiva.Arana said: »
Emps are hard?



You must have never been to old salvage getting anything just one armor piece can take over 200 runs. I would rather make an emp any day.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-02 14:21:42
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So these new weapons are not April fools joke I take it. Facepalm to all of us investing in Lv. 99 R/E/M? Seems kinda fishy to me.

I wouldn't say the GK beats Amano, but idk yet. Need people to math it out now I guess.
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By Odin.Farbsie 2013-04-02 14:25:38
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is the maintenance done? I updated version but cant get back on it says still in maintenance.
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By Shiva.Arana 2013-04-02 14:27:27
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I'm still curious about Tomonari for sam.
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By mattyc 2013-04-02 14:30:40
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that GK has 12 more base damage and +8 more STR than amano
but amano has 2.5x multiplier and +40 acc
masamune has more str even at 90 and the 2x boost
i dont think its going to be better than relic/emp.
i think this weapon is meant for the lazy people who dont wanna make either of the listed above.
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By Fenrir.Elliott 2013-04-02 14:37:34
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I really wish they'd refrain from adding new weapons and just give us some new content to use the weapons we already have.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-02 14:39:12
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Fenrir.Elliott said: »
I really wish they'd refrain from adding new weapons and just give us some new content to use the weapons we already have.

We literally just had a major expansion come out......
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-04-02 14:40:43
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You'd be doing new content by getting these weapons :(
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By mattyc 2013-04-02 14:40:43
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well think about history of adding new areas, Dyna > Relics, Aht Urghan > Mythics, Abyssea, SOA > ??? we all know there going to add another type weapon, nothing is going to top mythics, there the end all be all, all they can do now is add another weapon with new weaponskill that will be on par. people shouldn't be shocked, new content = new items.
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By mattyc 2013-04-02 14:42:17
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Edit: Abyssea > EMP's
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By Otomis 2013-04-02 14:42:44
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Macoquetza (new)
DMG:64 Delay:200 AGI+8 ≺Element: Water≻+20
"Subtle Blow"+7

I really just do not know how to feel about this unless there will be further upgrades for 99 E/R/M owners.


DPS: 1875 DMG:55 Delay:176
R/E
DPS: 1551 DMG:53 Delay:205
M
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-02 14:42:54
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mattyc said: »
well think about history of adding new areas, Dyna > Relics, Aht Urghan > Mythics, Abyssea, SOA > ??? we all know there going to add another type weapon, nothing is going to top mythics, there the end all be all, all they can do now is add another weapon with new weaponskill that will be on par. people shouldn't be shocked, new content = new items.

Let's not be so cut and dry with this, ya? I'm gonna have to ask the math guys to see if they can math out pup's KKK Vs the new super D h2h, and see what happens. It has a STAGGERING amount of dmg ahead of it, so idk if the OaT is gonna do it, along with the pummel dmg. It's possible they are very close.
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By Ragnarok.Loughry 2013-04-02 14:43:03
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naoru1 said: »
where do u get these weapons? o0


Late, but someone in ls just said they got it from Taisai when I asked about them.

Good luck.
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By mattyc 2013-04-02 14:44:08
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Puppet LOL! ya should be interesting for them...those hands seem a little broked........
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-02 14:46:43
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mattyc said: »
Puppet LOL! ya should be interesting for them...those hands seem a little broked........

yes yes.."lolpup", but let's also consider the same for mnk, ya? These have stupid high dmg compared to both spharai AND vere. Shijin spiral is not a bad WS, by any means. Also let's consider the dagger as it stands to be better than at least the empy I would think.
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By Leviathan.Suljin 2013-04-02 14:48:16
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People need to stop QQing about this, SE even said they still plan to adjust relic/myhic/emp weapons to ensure they are the best? Get the F over your issues with new weapons, especially when we don't know anything specific about them yet.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-02 14:50:41
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Leviathan.Suljin said: »
People need to stop QQing about this, SE even said they still plan to adjust relic/myhic/emp weapons to ensure they are the best? Get the F over your issues with new weapons, especially when we don't know anything specific about them yet.

I was with you on that until the end.. "don't know anything specific about them", meaning what? We can easily ascertain which boss they drop from, because of their ele resist bonus on them, and we know all of the stats on them. What's not to know?
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By Otomis 2013-04-02 14:51:52
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Leviathan.Suljin said: »
People need to stop QQing about this, SE even said they still plan to adjust relic/myhic/emp weapons to ensure they are the best? Get the F over your issues with new weapons, especially when we don't know anything specific about them yet.

I was hoping so, good thing to hear. I did not read this/ TY
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By Asura.Ina 2013-04-02 14:56:35
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Leviathan.Suljin said: »
People need to stop QQing about this, SE even said they still plan to adjust relic/myhic/emp weapons to ensure they are the best? Get the F over your issues with new weapons, especially when we don't know anything specific about them yet.
You must be new... These are the people that took several years to release 2 new avatars. Cynical or not with SE I've adopted a "I'll believe it when I see it" policy on anything they say.
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By Heimdel 2013-04-02 14:58:10
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Valefor.Esdain said: »
Interesting. I love that there are still some 'wtf' things that SE puts certain jobs to when it makes no sense. *rushes off to find that dagger that SCH got, but looked plainly like DNC was supposed to be on it instead*

Also, DD probably need those new high numbers 'cause if casting a simple spell of Stoneskin after melee have engaged causes the monster to turn to the stoneskin caster... lol enmity adjustments.

Ya I'm loving on pet jobs when pet does bunch of dmg and i cast sneak or invis and mob turns to me.. I've died so many times on smn because this now..
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By mattyc 2013-04-02 14:58:49
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so true Ina
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By Asura.Jem 2013-04-02 15:04:36
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Leviathan.Suljin said: »
People need to stop QQing about this, SE even said they still plan to adjust relic/myhic/emp weapons to ensure they are the best? Get the F over your issues with new weapons, especially when we don't know anything specific about them yet.

I don't care about whether R/M/E remain the best or not but that is not what SE said. This is what they said.

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We are not planning to enhance relic, mythic, or empyrean weapons via Trial of the Magians or through other methods.

However, in regards to these weapons that you have enhanced up to level 99, we are formulating plans so that they do not go to waste. (Including the weapons that do not yet have their afterglows.)

That is not the same as saying they would ensure they are the best at all.
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By Fenrir.Elliott 2013-04-02 15:04:41
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
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I really wish they'd refrain from adding new weapons and just give us some new content to use the weapons we already have.

We literally just had a major expansion come out......

Do you mean Reives with a side of running around topped off with two jobs absent of any JSE? Yes, it's new content, but of all the additions needed in FFXI, weapons wasn't one of them.
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By Sylph.Dasanuffadat 2013-04-02 15:04:43
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Mining is a ton easier now, saw a bunch on the front side of the reives and even got my marble in 1.5 stacks of pickaxes vs the 5+ stacks I wasted behind the first reive... x.x but yay its done haha.
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By Asura.Zizek 2013-04-02 15:05:11
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too high for this
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-02 15:08:51
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Fenrir.Elliott said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Elliott said: »
I really wish they'd refrain from adding new weapons and just give us some new content to use the weapons we already have.

We literally just had a major expansion come out......

Do you mean Reives with a side of running around topped off with two jobs absent of any JSE? Yes, it's new content, but of all the additions needed in FFXI, weapons wasn't one of them.

Oh... or do you mean the ENTIRE CONTINENT we have to work together to colonize and pioneer? Yeah, I meant that....
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By Fenrir.Elliott 2013-04-02 15:09:58
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Elliott said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Elliott said: »
I really wish they'd refrain from adding new weapons and just give us some new content to use the weapons we already have.

We literally just had a major expansion come out......

Do you mean Reives with a side of running around topped off with two jobs absent of any JSE? Yes, it's new content, but of all the additions needed in FFXI, weapons wasn't one of them.

Oh... or do you mean the ENTIRE CONTINENT we have to work together to colonize and pioneer? Yeah, I meant that....

By doing Reives and running around.. All I'm saying is that new weapons are altogether unnecessary and boosting existing ones would have been better.
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By Bismarck.Punchus 2013-04-02 15:11:37
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I remember seeing a lot of this similar QQ about when they released Empy's and relic holders whining that their precious weapons were getting outclassed by something that didn't require millions of gil or an abusive linkshell to obtain. SE pulled through and Relic weapons eventually got the upgrades. They may not be the best but there is a definite....oh what is that word that got used a ***ton of times that everyone learned to hate.....oh yeah..BALANCE. It may take time to re-invent R/M/E to meet the higher standards of the player base but isn't that the whole point of an MMO? Give SE your money and time so they can dangle the carrot at the end of the fishing pole. Everyone should be used to this by now.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-02 15:12:11
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Fenrir.Elliott said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Elliott said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Elliott said: »
I really wish they'd refrain from adding new weapons and just give us some new content to use the weapons we already have.

We literally just had a major expansion come out......

Do you mean Reives with a side of running around topped off with two jobs absent of any JSE? Yes, it's new content, but of all the additions needed in FFXI, weapons wasn't one of them.

Oh... or do you mean the ENTIRE CONTINENT we have to work together to colonize and pioneer? Yeah, I meant that....

By doing Reives and running around..

I think you're grasping because your first point was just so awful... Seriously, the expansion JUST hit the game, settle down on the content complaints because we just got a decent bit of it straight out of the gate. And to your "no JSE" comment. No job came out with af1/2/3 already in place. Not blu/cor/pup/dnc/sch/geo/run or any Zilart jobs to the best of my knowledge. That stuff is coming shortly anyways.
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By Fenrir.Elliott 2013-04-02 15:17:43
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Elliott said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Elliott said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Elliott said: »
I really wish they'd refrain from adding new weapons and just give us some new content to use the weapons we already have.

We literally just had a major expansion come out......

Do you mean Reives with a side of running around topped off with two jobs absent of any JSE? Yes, it's new content, but of all the additions needed in FFXI, weapons wasn't one of them.

Oh... or do you mean the ENTIRE CONTINENT we have to work together to colonize and pioneer? Yeah, I meant that....

By doing Reives and running around..

I think you're grasping because your first point was just so awful... Seriously, the expansion JUST hit the game, settle down on the content complaints because we just got a decent bit of it straight out of the gate. And to your "no JSE" comment. No job came out with af1/2/3 already in place. Not blu/cor/pup/dnc/sch/geo/run or any Zilart jobs to the best of my knowledge. That stuff is coming shortly anyways.

I know none of the previous jobs came out with any of their respective JSE, but no one can argue that things have changed. Jobs couldn't be burned to cap in one day, sure some hit the 75 cap rather quickly, but the average player took some time to get there and JSE seemed to be released at a better pace due to that. I'm not complaining about lack of content so much as the speed at which all these various weapons have been obtained and possibly obliterated. (If it's not 99 it will eventually be outclassed.)
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