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By Crossbones 2019-11-11 12:53:31
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Doing the lord's work Shiraj. Outstanding as always!
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By Ricon 2019-11-11 13:28:27
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I don't think the move actually comes from his front to begin with, this also explains why you can't just run around him. I think the move targets the player and moves in a small cone/line that extends beyond the target. If you stack everyone up then the tank/target runs behind him the target will get blasted without him even bothering to turn around. So it's more likely the move targets the person with hate and goes through them as opposed to being a true cone shaped attack from him.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-11-11 14:09:45
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Ricon said: »
I don't think the move actually comes from his front to begin with, this also explains why you can't just run around him. I think the move targets the player and moves in a small cone/line that extends beyond the target. If you stack everyone up then the tank/target runs behind him the target will get blasted without him even bothering to turn around. So it's more likely the move targets the person with hate and goes through them as opposed to being a true cone shaped attack from him.

This is exactly how the move behaves.
 
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By Asura.Shiraj 2019-11-12 21:35:57
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So spent hours fighting this dumbass NM. He made me mad. So not trying anymore. The one fight I forgot to merit Formless Strikes, I get it to 8%... and time out cos of Stone mode.
FYI 1-6 people this *** has 1.2M HP. Can verify from Parse.

8% Time out, Monk solo Onychophora:
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By Asura.Azagarth 2019-11-12 22:30:06
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well good try for sure! Do you think having a more DD centric trust like Sylvie would have got it? Seems like Yoran's healing wasnt the most important here.
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By Asura.Shiraj 2019-11-12 23:00:10
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Asura.Azagarth said: »
well good try for sure! Do you think having a more DD centric trust like Sylvie would have got it? Seems like Yoran's healing wasnt the most important here.

Probably, but my biggest issue is no Ygnas.
I cry at the thought of Mog Garden.
I may work towards it for sure.

I did try Shell Crusher for DEF down, but it literally had 0 effect, it probably missed if i'm honest.
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By Mrgrim 2019-11-13 14:23:01
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Use formless strikes for when he is in stone mode, and save your super revit also for when he starts switching back and forth, for some reason he stays most of the time in stone mode for me lol. Make sure to take out formless when it goes back to fire mode also.
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By SimonSes 2019-11-13 15:49:39
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Mrgrim said: »
Use formless strikes for when he is in stone mode
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The one fight I forgot to merit Formless Strikes
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By Mrgrim 2019-11-13 18:33:57
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SimonSes said: »
Mrgrim said: »
Use formless strikes for when he is in stone mode
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The one fight I forgot to merit Formless Strikes



Pssshhh that's what happens when you post 2 mins after waking up ;)
 
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By Butcherb0y 2019-11-16 12:32:02
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So is spinning attack worth to gear up for cleaving? Also what's the gear set looking like for SS. Been seeing alot of vids spamming SS/VS>light/VS>light combo.
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By Mrgrim 2019-11-16 12:48:01
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Can be good for cleaving. Sometimes it does 4k, while other times it does 15-18k. I personally use it with my TH volte gear to tag everything in omen and cross fingers that detritus rain.
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By SimonSes 2019-11-16 12:55:36
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Butcherb0y said: »
So is spinning attack worth to gear up for cleaving? Also what's the gear set looking like for SS. Been seeing alot of vids spamming SS/VS>light/VS>light combo.

For Spinning Attack you want lots of STR and multi attack (and attack if not attack capped) and yes its decent for AoE.
For SS damage you want lots of DEX and multi attack, so mostly Kendatsuba +1, but that set has no attack so it might be good to mix with few pieces with slightly less dex or ma, but with attack or you can make 2 sets, attack capped and uncapped.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2019-11-16 12:58:12
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You want WSD, not multi attack, for spinning attack.
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By Taint 2019-11-16 13:01:17
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
You want WSD, not multi attack, for spinning attack.


This STR, WSdmg, fotiax2.

I’ve been cleaving cards and it’s a solid WS for omen fodder.
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By Siren.Kyte 2019-11-16 13:20:50
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I prefer Cataclysm for Omen fodder so the enemies stay on the trust tank.
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By Butcherb0y 2019-11-16 13:27:49
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I've use it on pling alts in escha zita and it's taking me about 2_3 spinning WS to kill off all the mobs that I pull, mind you that I didnt gear it up yet, wondering if it will work well for cleaving apex target down. So pretty much stacked as much WSD then?
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By SimonSes 2019-11-16 14:57:34
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
You want WSD, not multi attack, for spinning attack.
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This STR, WSdmg, fotiax2.

I’ve been cleaving cards and it’s a solid WS for omen fodder.


No you dont? It's a 2.0 fTP with 1.0 on first hit.
TA proc basically doubles it's damage. 10%WSD is barely +0.1 fTP, while for example 5%TA is on avg +0.2 fTP . You want STR and multi attack.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2019-11-16 14:59:20
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Multi attack doesn't apply to hits that aren't on your main target, WSD does.
 
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By Butcherb0y 2019-11-16 15:10:17
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At most I've seen my self do 10k per hit on Spinning
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By Siren.Kyte 2019-11-16 15:20:12
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There's a separate MA check on each target.
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By SimonSes 2019-11-16 15:41:13
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Multi attack doesn't apply to hits that aren't on your main target, WSD does.

This is for sure not true. I usually do anywhere from 3k to like 14k with Spinning (depends on number of MA proc) and I always see quite a lot of 13k+ at the same time, while alos a lot of different ranges on other targets. It's separate check for each target.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2019-11-16 16:07:31
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Didn't use to function that way, at least not since I last paid attention to my fell cleaves, which was in abyssea times, so I'll take your word for it.
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By tyalangan 2019-11-16 16:10:49
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SimonSes said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
You want WSD, not multi attack, for spinning attack.
Taint said: »
This STR, WSdmg, fotiax2.

I’ve been cleaving cards and it’s a solid WS for omen fodder.


No you dont? It's a 2.0 fTP with 1.0 on first hit.
TA proc basically doubles it's damage. 10%WSD is barely +0.1 fTP, while for example 5%TA is on avg +0.2 fTP . You want STR and multi attack.

If I was to look for this info myself how would I deduce it is 2 fTP? BG says 1 fTP unless it is wrong. Or is there something misunderstood on my part on why it would be 2.0?
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By SimonSes 2019-11-16 16:17:53
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tyalangan said: »
If I was to look for this info myself how would I deduce it is 2 fTP? BG says 1 fTP unless it is wrong. Or is there something misunderstood on my part on why it would be 2.0?

Every 1hit MNK WS is actually 2hit, because of sub hand hit with 2nd hand. Unless fTP is transferred (like for many MNK WSs now) sub hand hit (and all ma proc hits) does 1.0 http://fTP.

So Spinning is 1.0 + 1.0 from 2nd hand and for example Final Heaven is 3.0 + 1.0
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By tyalangan 2019-11-16 16:21:50
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Awesome! Easy enough, thanks.
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By Butcherb0y 2019-11-16 19:19:33
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Hahah ok so sub hit will always be a 1 ftp then correct? So would it be wise to use any gear that have plenty of STR and MA in it to use and WSD is last?


Also on the spreadsheet I'm looking at the SS equip set in the sheet and you have Malig pieces in there. Since I dont have any pieces yet since no luck, what other piece I can use in those places? I do have Hesy+3 legs, but why hesy? I could prolly use kenda set +1. I'd probably skip out on kenda legs since it got only 5 dex, not sure though if ilvl 119 byakko haodate be better.
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By Fatulo 2019-11-16 20:34:05
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can someone please post theyr ws sets if you dont mind thanks in advance, dk, ss, rf, vs, im working on mnk slowly
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