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By Siren.Kyte 2018-04-04 14:25:33
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No one's advocating to use Counterstance when it isn't suitable and you've wasted half a page refuting a point that was never made.
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2018-04-04 14:25:49
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Fenrir.Cherrywine said: »
If you put Counter +10 on it, does it become Overwhelm +10 and change the player to SAM?

No, because SE only believes in Underwhelm when it comes to MNK
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By Asura.Topace 2018-04-16 21:52:57
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Is Jolts+1 still the best Non Rema h2h?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-04-16 21:55:01
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yes
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2018-04-17 02:01:01
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Jolt+1 are one of the best, but Comeuppances +1 are generally gonna be better unless you're MNK tanking to take advantage of the Counter rate/damage on Jolts.

Comeuppances have lower DMG, but also far lower delay, more STR, more Acc, DA+1~5%, and even Subtle Blow +12 has some practicality for a lot of situations where you might use MNK.

Availability is a question though:
Comeuppances/+1 come from one of the hardest mobs in the game... BUT can also be obtained through Unity Dial! I got my NQ that way and upgraded it, and have since also had a mule get the +1. I personally know multiple other people who also got them from dial. If you have a lot of mules and the willingness to open the dial when campaign is on, obtaining them this way is actually within the realm of reason.

Jolt+1 are theoretically easier to get, but actually seeing the crafted weapon available for sale can be pretty rare regardless of server (even Asura - one IS up right now, but there have only ever been 3 AH sales even on Asura). On other servers, they might be completely unavailable - for example, not a single pair has ever sold on AH on my server. They're also somewhat pricey when they are available.

NQ Jolts are a pretty solid easily available AH option though, and are probably the recommended MNK non-RMEA H2H if obtaining the HQ or Comeuppances isn't viable for someone.
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By Asura.Topace 2018-04-17 18:58:50
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Yea Comeuppances will probably be unavailable to me since I don't have it unlocked and heard its a pretty shitty fight.

Was thinking about buying the Jolts+1 off the AH since the person who is selling it is in my Shell I may get a discount lol. Though I know relic H2H is the worst of the 4 does Jolts come ahead of it?
MNK is the job I love to death even if it's a laughing stock atm.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-04-17 19:07:49
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Spharai never feels like it's appropriately measured. Mostly half assed due to being MNK.

Should be better than Jolt+1
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By flyingsquirrel 2018-04-18 04:40:45
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Yes, buy my jolts. Do it. I want kenkonken gil
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2018-04-18 15:14:17
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Asura.Topace said: »
Yea Comeuppances will probably be unavailable to me since I don't have it unlocked and heard its a pretty shitty fight.

I've never won the Tumult Curator fight, but I've obtained NQ Comeuppances, Comeuppances +1, 2x Tatenashi Haramaki, and lots of Tumult Curator's Bloods from Wanted dial alone. Main + Alt + 15 total mules, so I do have quite a few shots - but it's not impossible. And I've completely skipped a Wanted Dial campaign before, not been super vigilant about doing on all mules every day on some others, had most mules deactivated sometimes. Couple friends also received the H2H from Wanted Dial.

If nothing else, it's also a good way to stock up on T2 Escha Zitah/Ruaun pops, and those random useful UNM items! And for any non-RMEA MNK, it's worth your time to check due to the weapon.

The good thing about Jolt +1 though... you can always sell it if you ever get RMEA or Comeuppances!
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-04-19 04:02:56
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15 mules o.o
And I assume you have Wardrobe3+4, which once unlocked on an account is unlocked on all the characters of that account, forcing you to pay multiple times.

That's like 79$ a month just to play FFXI?
Not that it's my intention to mess with how people rightfully spend their money the way they want, I wouldn't dare.

Maybe I'm just speaking out of envy I guess haha xD
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By Sidiov 2018-04-19 04:21:33
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Asura.Sechs said: »
15 mules o.o
And I assume you have Wardrobe3+4, which once unlocked on an account is unlocked on all the characters of that account, forcing you to pay multiple times.

That's like 79$ a month just to play FFXI?
Not that it's my intention to mess with how people rightfully spend their money the way they want, I wouldn't dare.

Maybe I'm just speaking out of envy I guess haha xD

I dont understand this? The wardrobes are $2 each total for all accounts unless ive been getting a special deal since it started...
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By Vishwambhari 2018-04-19 04:21:39
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Asura.Sechs said: »
15 mules o.o
And I assume you have Wardrobe3+4, which once unlocked on an account is unlocked on all the characters of that account, forcing you to pay multiple times.

That's like 79$ a month just to play FFXI?
Not that it's my intention to mess with how people rightfully spend their money the way they want, I wouldn't dare.

Maybe I'm just speaking out of envy I guess haha xD
Hey sechsy boy ( <3 ), the wardrobes are unlocked for all chars at no additional expenses.
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-04-19 05:07:37
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Why is it charging me double then? It's charging me wardrobes for my main character AND my mule (the only one I have). Wait... is it? Maybe I'm wrong.

I'm spending like 18-19€ every month for 1 character and 1 mule, and both Wardrobe3+4 unlocked.
Is that right?


Now that I think about it, it's pretty insane to be spending 18€ every month for basically a single character for a 15+ years old game in an era where pretty much everything went FTP
I always feel some strange sense of, I dunno, guilt? Whenever I think about it lol
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-04-19 05:52:11
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Why is it charging me double then? It's charging me wardrobes for my main character AND my mule (the only one I have). Wait... is it? Maybe I'm wrong.

I'm spending like 18-19€ every month for 1 character and 1 mule, and both Wardrobe3+4 unlocked.
Is that right?


Now that I think about it, it's pretty insane to be spending 18€ every month for basically a single character for a 15+ years old game in an era where pretty much everything went FTP
I always feel some strange sense of, I dunno, guilt? Whenever I think about it lol

lol, this is how they keep you playing. Welcome to the machine. Guilt of missing dailys. Guilt of missing "special event". Guilt of "loyalty". You feel that... "guilt" that "fomo" that "anxiety" it's no accident. This is a multi-billion dollar industry, where it's people's sole purpose in life to figure out how to make you feel that way.

This comes up at least once a year, yeah square does -not- deserve the amount of money [you] are paying.

"but where are you going to get an entire months worth of unlimited entertainment for twenty bucks, thats the cost of one movie, or half a new single player game"
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By Quizzy 2018-04-19 09:14:38
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For the price of a shitty bottle of wine...
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2018-04-19 11:45:42
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$12.95(base) + $1(mule) + $2 (wardrobe) + $2 (wardrobe2) = $18. It isn't billed per mule.

And never mind the people suggesting how to spend your money. Unless you're uneducated or have way too many kids, you shouldn't be that stressed over FFXI's monthly fee.

A better question is if you actually enjoy the game, because a hell of a lot of people pay for it and seem to do nothing but complain. If you don't like it, even spending your time on it is a waste, much less your monthly fee.

If you enjoy it, the monthly is comparatively low as far as entertainment goes. The people who would say otherwise are probably working minimum wage and taking their S.O. to mcdonalds for dates.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-04-19 13:00:32
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yeah but hot and spicy with some sweet and sour sauce
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-04-19 13:31:39
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
$12.95(base) + $1(mule) + $2 (wardrobe) + $2 (wardrobe2) = $18. It isn't billed per mule.
Wardrobe3+4 you mean?
But yeah I stand corrected, thanks for posting that!
I must have been confused from when I added Wardrobe3&4 (which is not that long ago to be fair) where it was showing separate costs for both my main and my one mule.


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And never mind the people suggesting how to spend your money.
Absolutely agree, would never dare to get that far. It was mostly a personal thing about my own money, I kinda feel a bit guilty I'm spending this much every month for my personal entertainment.
I'm not to the point of being unable to eat or sleep because of that lol, but it all adds up at the end of the year alas.


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A better question is if you actually enjoy the game, because a hell of a lot of people pay for it and seem to do nothing but complain.
Good point!
Thankfully I'm still enjoying FFXI a lot, or I would be on a break as it happened already a couple of times across these 14+ years ;)


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The people who would say otherwise are probably working minimum wage and taking their S.O. to mcdonalds for dates.
Despite my high level degree you'd be surprised how much you get paid in my country on average. That's supposing you even manage to get a job! XD
But no really, as I said before I'm not to the point of being unable to eat because of FFXI lol!
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2018-04-19 15:02:46
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Asura.Sechs said: »
15 mules o.o
And I assume you have Wardrobe3+4, which once unlocked on an account is unlocked on all the characters of that account, forcing you to pay multiple times.

Yeah it's like $30 with max characters on 1 account. $1 per additional character/mule, and the Wardrobe 3&4 costs the same for 1 character as it does for all 16 (as others have said).

I normally maintain main + 3 mules, and the other 12 I cancel sometimes and reactivate sometimes. I usually bring them back when there's good login campaign loot (sellables, especially useful Ex items, etc.). It's basically RMT, but I'm paying S-E directly.

But hey, $1 a mule last month and 4 Glavoid Shells per mule... I'll gladly pay 25 cents of real money for a Glavoid Shell. Other examples: they got me a ton of KB pops back when those started showing up in login campaign, to get a D.Ring and a ton of gil bazaaring more pops, couple months ago was Delve boss drops for Relic upgrades (some nice money and stashed some for myself), etc. Wanted dial provides all the UNM trophies I need to make Escha pops, and all the UNM items I wanted but didn't bother farming. The extra dozen mules usually save me enough time that I'm fairly indifferent to roughly doubling my monthly subscription cost.
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By Asura.Topace 2018-04-19 20:29:36
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So Upgrading my MNK head to +3. Besides Howling Fist and Raging Fist would I put it in any other set? I Know Victory Smite is Crit based so keeping Adhemar Head for that. Wasn't too sure about Shijin Spiral.

Also do anyone here have a counter set in their lua? It feels like it impossible to hit the counter cap with out counterstance death sentence.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-04-19 20:44:52
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27 for master + merits
+16 for Ambu set (5 pieces, not 6)
+14/15/18 for relic/jolt/+1
+10 cape
+6 af+3 legs
+2 ammo
+1 neck backlash
+1 ear avenger
+1 ear Genmei
+3 ear Cryptic

Also, can do 4 Hiza and use a +5 counter body
Can get over cap
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