I'd get Terp again, btw.
Onward progress!! Faith in balance!
Best Mythic Weapon And Why
Best Mythic Weapon and why
These have uses with respect to the job's function:
*=Sort of.
These weapons serve as a (relatively) significant piece of equipment for the job in some manner.
*=Sort of.
These provide relevant enhancements to important/useful jobs:
*=Sort of.
These have one niche use that you may care about if you really like a job.
These look cool:
Conquerer (WAR)
Glanzfaust (MNK)
Yagrush (WHM)
Burtgang (PLD)
Liberator (DRK)
Aymur (BST)
Carnwenhan (BRD)
Kogarasumaru (SAM)
Ryunohige (DRG)
Nirvana (SMN)
Tizona (BLU)*
Death Penalty (COR)*
Kenkonken (PUP)
Terpsichore (DNC)
*=Sort of.
These weapons serve as a (relatively) significant piece of equipment for the job in some manner.
Conquerer (WAR)
Glanzfaust (MNK)*
Yagrush (WHM)
Liberator (DRK)
Aymur (BST)
Kogarasumaru (SAM)
Ryunohige (DRG)
Nirvana (SMN)
Kenkonken (PUP)
Terpsichore (DNC)
*=Sort of.
These provide relevant enhancements to important/useful jobs:
Conquerer (WAR)
Glanzfaust (MNK)*
Yagrush (WHM)
Liberator (DRK)*
Kogarasumaru (SAM)
*=Sort of.
These have one niche use that you may care about if you really like a job.
Murgleis (RDM)
Nagi (NIN)
Laevateinn (BLM)
These look cool:
Conquerer (WAR)
Glanzfaust (MNK)
Vajra (THF)
Yagrush (WHM)
Laevateinn (BLM)
Murgelis (RDM)
Burtgang (PLD)
Liberator (DRK)
Aymur (BST)
Carnwenhan (BRD)
Ryunohige (DRG)
Nagi (NIN)
Nirvana (SMN)
Tizona (BLU)
Gastraphetes (RNG)
Death Penalty (COR)
Kenkonken (PUP)
Terpsichore (DNC)
Tupsimati (SCH)
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Also, any mythic with afterglow is useful because it's the prettiest glow.
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Okay, I did it.
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Expiacion being able to crit (maybe like true strike even, 100% of the time) in addition to those WSC changes would make Tizona a very strong mainhand as well.
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
These have uses with respect to the job's function:
*=Sort of.
These weapons serve as a (relatively) significant piece of equipment for the job in some manner.
*=Sort of.
These provide relevant enhancements to important/useful jobs:
*=Sort of.
These have one niche use that you may care about if you really like a job.
These look cool:
Conquerer (WAR)
Glanzfaust (MNK)
Yagrush (WHM)
Burtgang (PLD)
Liberator (DRK)
Aymur (BST)
Carnwenhan (BRD)
Kogarasumaru (SAM)
Ryunohige (DRG)
Nirvana (SMN)
Tizona (BLU)*
Death Penalty (COR)*
Kenkonken (PUP)
Terpsichore (DNC)
*=Sort of.
These weapons serve as a (relatively) significant piece of equipment for the job in some manner.
Conquerer (WAR)
Glanzfaust (MNK)*
Yagrush (WHM)
Liberator (DRK)
Aymur (BST)
Kogarasumaru (SAM)
Ryunohige (DRG)
Nirvana (SMN)
Kenkonken (PUP)
Terpsichore (DNC)
*=Sort of.
These provide relevant enhancements to important/useful jobs:
Conquerer (WAR)
Glanzfaust (MNK)*
Yagrush (WHM)
Liberator (DRK)*
Kogarasumaru (SAM)
*=Sort of.
These have one niche use that you may care about if you really like a job.
Murgleis (RDM)
Nagi (NIN)
Laevateinn (BLM)
These look cool:
Conquerer (WAR)
Glanzfaust (MNK)
Vajra (THF)
Yagrush (WHM)
Laevateinn (BLM)
Murgelis (RDM)
Burtgang (PLD)
Liberator (DRK)
Aymur (BST)
Carnwenhan (BRD)
Ryunohige (DRG)
Nagi (NIN)
Nirvana (SMN)
Tizona (BLU)
Gastraphetes (RNG)
Death Penalty (COR)
Kenkonken (PUP)
Terpsichore (DNC)
Tupsimati (SCH)
First LOVE YOU SAID THEY ALL LOOK AWESOME, cuz they all do, and all are "Good" head turns, not like the Claustrum head turn >.>, anyway i do have a couple disagreements, personally I don't believe that conquerer is a very "important" weapon for war, yes berserk is nice, but primarily the meat of a heavy dd is in the ws, and king's justice doesn't really break it, not to mention the damage on it is less than that of ukon. I will say (yes I might be a little biast) but I do believe that the Nirvana does help with enhancements to useful jobs (once they finally implement the new 2hrs... people will be over smns again like McDonalds and the tropical rainforest), and with that MAB +40 on your avatar, possibly more attack (if you decide to melee... use a fanatics > dusty wing your good) if you're good. Anyway those are just my thoughts of most listed, pup is good, but they don't parse good dmg since it doesn't account the puppet, either way, I CAN"T WAIT FOR ASTRAL CONDIUT TO BE REAL (to be honest tho test server with just 1 of them in legion I took the adamantoise down 20%, just with ability to chainspell heavenly strike)
LOVE YOU THO JINJO
Looking over your post Byrth I have what may seem a stupid question. Does se actually know what we're referring to when we use terms such as Ftp, Dint, etc?
They've never responded to a mechanics question directly, so it's a little hard to tell. The translators frequently use terms that are similar to what we use, though, so I assume that they know what we're saying and would do the same going in reverse.
That said, there's almost a 0% chance it would be translated and approximately a 0% chance it would be implemented. The only thing that was implemented from my Relic adjustment list was Aegis' MDT surpassing the cap, and given the number of things I suggested that may have just been luck.
That said, there's almost a 0% chance it would be translated and approximately a 0% chance it would be implemented. The only thing that was implemented from my Relic adjustment list was Aegis' MDT surpassing the cap, and given the number of things I suggested that may have just been luck.
People really overstate Ukonvasara's damage output with respect to other options. Conquerer will pretty much always come out even or better if you don't have a COR (aside from Abyssea/VW, obviously). It's also generally the best zerg weapon. These are the sort of things I'm referring to when I say "significant boost" to a jobs role. I don't mean it's excessively important, just that it's a way of improving upon what the job does.
Conquerer is only the weakest of the "big 3" because WAR has no native AM3-maintenance abilities and Berserk can be dispelled. (Absolute boost)
You could also consider it to be a "weaker" option because WAR's other options are comparatively better than SAM and DRG's competing options. (Relative boost)
You could also consider it to be a "weaker" option because WAR's other options are comparatively better than SAM and DRG's competing options. (Relative boost)
That's sad to hear. It's too bad they've never given a set of standardized terms other than basic stuff to help the player base truly speak to the devs.
Don't suppose you know someone that understands the game to your level and speaks Japanese that wouldn't mind posting a mirror version on the Jp forums?
Don't suppose you know someone that understands the game to your level and speaks Japanese that wouldn't mind posting a mirror version on the Jp forums?
I can try to translate it over and post it over to Japanese Forums if I get some free time if people really want me to, it'd just take me a bit to translate it.
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Asura.Myrrh said: »
I'd get Terp again, btw.
Onward progress!! Faith in balance!
Onward progress!! Faith in balance!
I enjoy that your avatar is Terpsichore. Kudos. (love that artist's painting of Thalia)
Phoenix.Kaparu said: »
And I you. Being dismissive, insulting, and condescending at record speed, and with utmost class.
Lacking an absolute value and being measurable are not mutually exclusive, nor does something need to be measurable to be recognizably legitimate. But please, the one-liners are delightful, and you know, contributory. lol
Lacking an absolute value and being measurable are not mutually exclusive, nor does something need to be measurable to be recognizably legitimate. But please, the one-liners are delightful, and you know, contributory. lol
Practice what you preach. You could have disagreed with me at the start with a lot more class. If you really perceived me as having an inaccurate opinion.
Instead of communicating anything worth reading all you and your band of goons have done is flame. I still don't see where you stand on Burtgang by the way?
We left it at
Blazed: Almace is a better option for PLD
Kap: PLD sucks, do Burtgang.
Look it can't be any simpler for the things that you would actually bring a pld for Burtang shines. The only time Almace shines another DD would be better.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
They've never responded to a mechanics question directly, so it's a little hard to tell. The translators frequently use terms that are similar to what we use, though, so I assume that they know what we're saying and would do the same going in reverse.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
That said, there's almost a 0% chance it would be translated and approximately a 0% chance it would be implemented. The only thing that was implemented from my Relic adjustment list was Aegis' MDT surpassing the cap, and given the number of things I suggested that may have just been luck.
Blazed1979 said: »
Phoenix.Kaparu said: »
And I you. Being dismissive, insulting, and condescending at record speed, and with utmost class.
Lacking an absolute value and being measurable are not mutually exclusive, nor does something need to be measurable to be recognizably legitimate. But please, the one-liners are delightful, and you know, contributory. lol
Lacking an absolute value and being measurable are not mutually exclusive, nor does something need to be measurable to be recognizably legitimate. But please, the one-liners are delightful, and you know, contributory. lol
Practice what you preach. You could have disagreed with me at the start with a lot more class. If you really perceived me as having an inaccurate opinion.
Instead of communicating anything worth reading all you and your band of goons have done is flame. I still don't see where you stand on Burtgang by the way?
We left it at
Blazed: Almace is a better option for PLD
Kap: PLD sucks, do Burtgang.
Paladin is near useless, but wherever you would use Paladin for any reason, Burtgang would be the best choice, period.
That's an objective answer that can hardly be countered, being the truth.
If you feel that it's wrong, it is your opinion, like it is my opinion that wine tastes like ***. It doesn't make it a fact and never will.
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
They've never responded to a mechanics question directly, so it's a little hard to tell. The translators frequently use terms that are similar to what we use, though, so I assume that they know what we're saying and would do the same going in reverse.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
That said, there's almost a 0% chance it would be translated and approximately a 0% chance it would be implemented. The only thing that was implemented from my Relic adjustment list was Aegis' MDT surpassing the cap, and given the number of things I suggested that may have just been luck.
Blazed1979 said: »
Phoenix.Kaparu said: »
And I you. Being dismissive, insulting, and condescending at record speed, and with utmost class.
Lacking an absolute value and being measurable are not mutually exclusive, nor does something need to be measurable to be recognizably legitimate. But please, the one-liners are delightful, and you know, contributory. lol
Lacking an absolute value and being measurable are not mutually exclusive, nor does something need to be measurable to be recognizably legitimate. But please, the one-liners are delightful, and you know, contributory. lol
Practice what you preach. You could have disagreed with me at the start with a lot more class. If you really perceived me as having an inaccurate opinion.
Instead of communicating anything worth reading all you and your band of goons have done is flame. I still don't see where you stand on Burtgang by the way?
We left it at
Blazed: Almace is a better option for PLD
Kap: PLD sucks, do Burtgang.
Paladin is near useless, but wherever you would use Paladin for any reason, Burtgang would be the best choice, period.
That's an objective answer that can hardly be countered, being the truth.
If you feel that it's wrong, it is your opinion, like it is my opinion that wine tastes like ***. It doesn't make it a fact and never will.
I agree more or less. We just have different perceptions of what useless is, and it is most certainly based on what content you do and how you do it. The argument was never "is PLD superior to said jobs in aspect x".
Stating that Burtgang is superior in aspect Y is true, but Almace is also superior in other events.
I really just detest absolutes, as really it can be argued PLD isn't useless.
Lets say for the sake of argument that you want to play PLD. And your friends have no qualms with this decision. Your friends enjoy doing salvage 2.0, Meeble burrows, limbus 2.0 and pretty much anything bar legion.
The above is the greater majority of content in this game, and in this case Almace > Burtgang.
Wine does taste like ***.
You must be drinking the wrong wine.
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Metaphorically and literally!
White wine is fine, especially when cooked.
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I see Byrth's did it and raise you my own did it.
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Best way to compare mythics is to look at what the weapon's purpose is, and how well it performs that task.
My favorite mythic is Kenkonken.(I just wish the overload suppressant was something a little more useful. Overloading cann be avoided altogether by paying attention and not "Herpderp fire spammss")
My favorite mythic is Kenkonken.(I just wish the overload suppressant was something a little more useful. Overloading cann be avoided altogether by paying attention and not "Herpderp fire spammss")
Fenrir.Weakness said: »
Now... if only they would actually listen to good suggestions and not cheese sandwiches.
For the record I cut a lot of stuff from Byrth's post, mostly the reasoning behind each change he suggested. I might go back and add it in when I get more time but for now I got the key points of his posts in there.
I'm mostly curious to see if posting something in JP actually gets more attention. While a lot of the EN playerbase like to say only the JP side gets attention, there's actually no real way of proving that. They do get the dev posts a few hours before we do but that doesn't mean they don't get our feedback from our community team before they make those posts.
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Thanks for the translation!
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