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By Zyla 2012-12-16 22:48:44
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just curious as to what are blu's most powerful magical based nukes? i know charged whisker, everyone's grudge, dark orb, and thermal pulse are pretty good, and i can hit pretty decent numbers in aby with my MAB set, but are those 4 spells it? i've tried a few others and don't seem to get very good results on dmg except with the 4 spells above.
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By Siren.Kyte 2012-12-16 22:53:16
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Firespit, Regurgitation, and Corrosive Ooze aren't bad, although there aren't a whole lot of applications for them right now.
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By Zyla 2012-12-16 23:02:26
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ok i'll give those a shot, thnx. could've used a bit more firepower than 4 spells when i was doin flans for str trial ><
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By Siren.Kyte 2012-12-16 23:40:22
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I suppose I should also point out the fact that Blazing Bound is kind of interesting due to the fact that it can deal damage while double weak, due to being based off MDB rather than MAB.
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By Ophannus 2013-01-04 18:35:02
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Pretty sure our best nuke right now; the nuke with the highest damage potential, is Dark Orb. Someone mentioned to me in LS a few months back that Draylo said it's possible with the best gear(HQ Legion Abjs but now probably Salvage+1 too) to do 6k with Dark Orb but it requires temps, full Atmacite and crazy MAB build.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-04 18:43:36
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6k with a set proc and convergence mayhaps. It's not that good


@OP, they were already mentioned, but COrossive Ooze and Regurgitation are not only good for their damage, but also for the fact that they create the lowest amount of enmity of any action in the game.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-01-04 18:49:00
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Nah I never said that, last time I really messed with nukes was when VW first came out. I used Dark Orb, Regurgitation and the like.
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By Fenrir.Curty 2013-01-04 18:59:31
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Zyla said: »
ok i'll give those a shot, thnx. could've used a bit more firepower than 4 spells when i was doin flans for str trial ><

Should be gathering them up and one shotting with CW in abys-kons. Make sure you have the right atma set.
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By Zyla 2013-01-04 19:05:22
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thnx for the responses, i'm really getting into blu cause they can bring so much to the table in terms of dmg types and support, so any info gained from those with more experience with the job is appreciated.

i got a fairly ok MAB set, nothin special like legion or abj gear, but i can usually pump out some pretty nice nukes in aby with the gear and atma setups i have. usually 2-3k+ (the 3k ones i'm guessing are crits) on dark orb and everyone's grudge is my norm w/o buffs or spell enhancements.

i'll have to check out corrosive ooze and regurgitation, i haven't tried those yet, mostly stick with org, grudge, and whisker, thnx much for the feedback ^^
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-01-04 19:07:44
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Flans don't have a -pdt trait so I don't see why nuking is necessary.
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By Zyla 2013-01-04 19:13:24
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i personally just noticed that i was able to do better dmg on flans with magical based spells than with physical based spells. with normal DD atmas and gear my a. spikes or quad cont. would hit for around the 1.5k range, 2k on spikes. i just got overall better dmg on them with magic based spells. plus having the ability to maximize dmg with several differing dmg types appeals to me, the utility of blu is my favorite part of the job.

edit: my atmas for magic spells were hells guardian, ultimate, and MM for refresh. forgot to mention that.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2013-01-04 21:03:48
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Zyla said: »
i personally just noticed that i was able to do better dmg on flans with magical based spells than with physical based spells. with normal DD atmas and gear my a. spikes or quad cont. would hit for around the 1.5k range, 2k on spikes. i just got overall better dmg on them with magic based spells.


I'm not 100% sure about abyssea, but outside of Abyssea, capped haste buff with req spam is probably better way to deal dmg for flan type mobs, unless your target is very high lv or have high def, and nuking is just slow.

Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Flans don't have a -pdt trait so I don't see why nuking is necessary.


Certain flan does I think, like the one in NNI.
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By Zyla 2013-01-04 21:58:50
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at the time i hadn't lvl'd requiescat yet, i was currently in the process of building a str shikargar and my primary method for quicker kills was aby on firesday. i tried whisker burning them just for shits and giggles and i'm sure you can all guess how that worked out lol. in aby i was able to to cast like 2 nukes while meleeing and it took them down pretty quickly.

since then though i've finished my shikargar (yay!) and i'm 4/5 on requiescat atm, got an ok build for it, but still lack the really good stuff to make it shine. just need to work on my almace when i have the time, stupid 3rd shift job and adult responsibilities.... ; ;
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By Sylph.Kawar 2013-01-04 22:11:45
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No please say it is not show blu is great over powered i love it that way.Why would se nuk blue.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2013-01-04 22:29:11
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Kawar what the *** are you talking about?
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By Ragnarok.Transitioneer 2013-01-04 22:31:56
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Sylph.Kawar said: »
No please say it is not show blu is great over powered i love it that way.Why would se nuk blue.


edit:
I got high and can now kinda understand what you meant. but still, wtf. ultimate accidental troll
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By Ragnarok.Zothane 2013-01-04 22:33:50
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Asura.Bluespoons said: »
Kawar what the *** are you talking about?

For real LOL
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By Zyla 2013-01-04 22:53:20
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perhaps he thought i was saying SE is gonna nuke blu? i dunno, your guess is as good as mine lol
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-01-04 23:14:01
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Perhap's he should learn to type and read.....

Why would se Nuke blue?

Perhaps because a BLU threatened to kill all the SE staff for not giving them mortal ray with 100% accuracy.....
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-01-04 23:16:21
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In abyssea with the right atma's you can do around 5k Charged whisker.

Secondly the person who said why are you using magical nukes... Its called mass farming / Fell cleave style I thought it was obvious from the context he is pulling spellcaster mobs and killing with aoe spells for 2k x10 targets = 20k total dmg compared to single target for 1.5k... If the math escaped you Pleeebo.
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By Ragnarok.Transitioneer 2013-01-05 00:26:59
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5k for a whisker is pretty low.
I was hitting 5k (which is still enough to kill after efflux>whirl) and my set isn't optimal and I also don't have blinding horn atma. I don't use anything other than cw and thunderbolt for the lols whenever its up, even though it doesn't give as high numbers.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-01-05 00:54:45
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Cleaving wasn't mentioned and single target nukes were listed and suggested.

Was going to suggest just mowing through them melee-style since flans (at least in abyssea) had no noticeable -pdt when I was killing them. Besides, aoe-burning caster mobs is a pain.

So, no, nothing escaped me other than the date of the OP as he/she's probably already done with the trial.
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By Sylph.Kawar 2013-01-05 12:15:42
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sorry the title made me think they were nuking blu in some way.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2013-01-05 12:17:59
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Could always read the thread, or even just the OP.
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2013-01-05 12:24:57
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Asura.Bluespoons said: »
Could always read the thread, or even just the OP.
Kawar cant read lol
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-01-05 12:35:52
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Since your goal was trials, set auroral drape so you can aoe silence them, and CW them to death. May require thermal/WOR if your set isn't good or missing atma. Keep in mind that OP was using a sword for trial, so CW damage alone might not be enough to one shot pending gear/buffs/atma.
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By Bahamut.Blze 2013-01-05 13:49:15
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thunder breath is pretty potent but due to it being hp based you won't hit pretty numbers best i got out of it was highend of 1k+ inside and low end 1k+ outside abyssea and the mana cost is pretty high.
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By Leviathan.Dragonlord 2013-01-05 22:07:52
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Bahamut.Blze said: »
thunder breath is pretty potent but due to it being hp based you won't hit pretty numbers best i got out of it was highend of 1k+ inside and low end 1k+ outside abyssea and the mana cost is pretty high.

Thunder breath can be incredibly potent if you atma/gear correctly for it.

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/27581/thunder-breath/
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