well, i don't know where he's from and you are correct i messed up the math. it's late so you got me on that one.
now for your other statement, i don't work two jobs. i would be willing to work two jobs to ensure my children don't have to go to public school. as for the quality of my job i made $48,729 last year. that's not a lot but it's FAR from a low paying job. i fail to see what is wrong with being willing to work to make a better life for my children. if you won't do that then you are a sub par parent.
The Rich Get Slightly Not So Rich
The rich get slightly not so rich
I went to both a Private and Public High school during my HS time in the US (also did some in Japan).
The only difference between the two is that my Public HS offered more Advanced classes and the kids were all stuck up *** at the private one.
The only difference between the two is that my Public HS offered more Advanced classes and the kids were all stuck up *** at the private one.
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Oh, and the Japanese high school made both of them look like kindergarten. But that's an entirely different thread.
The private Highschool I went to was full of ***
and one of our rivals was Kent so *** them (People from Kent were normally ***)
and one of our rivals was Kent so *** them (People from Kent were normally ***)
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Oh, and the Japanese high school made both of them look like kindergarten. But that's an entirely different thread.
Did they have you dance?
No, but I did take Taiko lessons.
well, enjoy sending your kid to public school and hoping for the best while not even trying to choose their school based on results of the school
on the japanese school thing, if i had an opportunity to send my kids to a japanese quality school without having to move to japan you can bet your *** i'd be all over that regardless of price.
on the japanese school thing, if i had an opportunity to send my kids to a japanese quality school without having to move to japan you can bet your *** i'd be all over that regardless of price.
And overall as to this "problem" they're having
sure, making that much money is fine
I don't care how much you make
but don't *** when you don't get a little more
sure, making that much money is fine
I don't care how much you make
but don't *** when you don't get a little more
Asura.Psubond said: »
well, enjoy sending your kid to public school and hoping for the best while not even trying to choose their school based on results of the school
Lol.
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
No, but I did take Taiko lessons.
you would
Ew, why would I have kids? *** that. Nasty little shits.
But if I did, they wouldnt be allowed to hang out with upper middle class white people.
But if I did, they wouldnt be allowed to hang out with upper middle class white people.
Why wouldn't they be allowed :O
and how could you even have kids >:
and how could you even have kids >:
you kids have fun debating this stuff i'm going to bed it's late.
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who said i'm white? not everyone with a decent job and a negative opinion on socialism is white.
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who said i'm white? not everyone with a decent job and a negative opinion on socialism is white.
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Completely optional and un-funded is overemphasized? :P
they weren't optional when I was in school, hell even in public college (community still) I just had to take a pointless art class last semester.
if they were 100% percent optional I wouldn't have said it.
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like they built the fine arts building BEFORE the technology building...
Buildings at colleges are usually built depending on private donations or internal funding to a department, not according to what's actually needed.
For me, art/music were completely optional past elementary school. In Middle/High school, one could choose between technology classes, shop, home economics, music, art, creative writing, dance, drama, etc for those random elective courses.
In College, different departments have different policies. Mine has the most "Strict" policy, requiring 3 credits (1 course) out of a 120 credit programme to come from a wide variety of courses that fall into an area called "Creativity and the Aesthetic Experience."
I don't think it's unreasonable to require 1 class out of 40 to be arts related (other areas required for all majors to varying degrees are Quantitative Analysis and Logic (Math + Statistics), Scientific Reasoning and Discovery, Critical Issues in a Global Context (this includes courses like comparative government, etc.), Society and Human Behavior, Cultural Traditions and Values or whatever it's called (inc. things like Women's Studies or something).
Colleges want to produce well-rounded graduates.
That said, there's a lot of data to support that music/arts education are positively correlated with overall academic performance. A lot of it has potential to be biased, but music and arts are something that have been important parts of human culture and education for thousands of years, you'd think if it were getting in the way we'd have dropped it by now.
Schools in this area didn't make it optional until the end of high-school.
1 3 credit class being required that's an entire waste of time/effort is still a waste of time/effort regardless of the "well-rounded" garbage they want. Making a student who has no talent or interest in a subject take the subject is pointless.
It is getting in the way, it's one of the main reasons America's education system when compared to the world is very behind in math and sciences, it's that way for a reason.
Also if you're such a capitalist, you should realize it doesn't matter what economic conditions your kids grow up in, or what their circumstances are, or what school they can afford to go to, it's their own decisions and hard work that will make them successful, 100% of the time.
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What do you mean Jet, my Ethics of Computers class makes me a better person
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
It is getting in the way, it's one of the main reasons America's education system when compared to the world is very behind in math and sciences, it's that way for a reason.
No it's not. Art/music/culturaleducation are WAY more emphasized in Asian curricula than they are in the US.
Asura.Psubond said: »
that's what happens when you depend on the government to supply your jobs. in a free market guess what, people open businesses and such and create jobs for the rest of the people.
the free market is a failed system and a system we haven't even seen here in a very long time.
socialism in it's purest form doesn't work either, you have to have a good mix for a system to work.
America has an issue that's at the core: education is lacking.
We've always been behind on the international standard (obviously of the advanced nations) of education and it's finally catching up to us.
We can no longer rely on uneducated labor to get by, as it's being replaced (as it should be) by machines.
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Also if you're such a capitalist, you should realize it doesn't matter what economic conditions your kids grow up in, or what their circumstances are, or what school they can afford to go to, it's their own decisions and hard work that will make them successful, 100% of the time.
gdi brought me back for one more.
that is true but you should also give them a solid foundation to build upon to give them the best chance of success.
So wait
you're saying we're behind in math, science, AND those other things?
*** the US >:
you're saying we're behind in math, science, AND those other things?
*** the US >:
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Also if you're such a capitalist, you should realize it doesn't matter what economic conditions your kids grow up in, or what their circumstances are, or what school they can afford to go to, it's their own decisions and hard work that will make them successful, 100% of the time.
Considering I grew up in a poor area, in a very underfunded school, but I had parents who taught me the value of education and so I grew up wanting to be smart, I feel like I can attest to this. Yeah, there was a lot of stuff my school couldn't teach me. Yeah, there was a lot of stuff a better school could have provided.
But I worked myself so hard that now I'm in a really, really good college, and I'm outperforming my peers from private school in my major classes. Better funded schools help, no denying it, but at the end of the day there's way more to be said how hard you work, and how much you put in than if your school is properly funded.
Asura.Psubond said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Also if you're such a capitalist, you should realize it doesn't matter what economic conditions your kids grow up in, or what their circumstances are, or what school they can afford to go to, it's their own decisions and hard work that will make them successful, 100% of the time.
gdi brought me back for one more.
that is true but you should also give them a solid foundation to build upon.
Or feed them to the lions at the zoo. I think thats a good alternative too,
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What school do you go to Sect?
Asura.Lolserj said: »
So wait
you're saying we're behind in math, science, AND those other things?
*** the US >:
you're saying we're behind in math, science, AND those other things?
*** the US >:
Yes, I am.
Asura.Lolserj said: »
What school do you go to Sect?
Stevens Institute of Technology.
Our education system also fails to produced skilled laborers.
Wow...I don't even know what to say this thread now...
The fact you are so hostile about sending your kids to a public school, I just don't understand. After looking at private schools myself I found none that were able to challenge my son to the point our public school system was able to.
Maybe you just have really shitty public schools, or maybe you went to a private school so you are biased? Whatever the reason is, I don't really care, but dude your attitude sucks.
Asura.Psubond said: »
I don't care if I have to work a second job my kids will NEVER go to a public school and if that makes me a snob then so be it. Charter schools only
Asura.Psubond said: »
well, enjoy sending your kid to public school and hoping for the best while not even trying to choose their school based on results of the school
The fact you are so hostile about sending your kids to a public school, I just don't understand. After looking at private schools myself I found none that were able to challenge my son to the point our public school system was able to.
Maybe you just have really shitty public schools, or maybe you went to a private school so you are biased? Whatever the reason is, I don't really care, but dude your attitude sucks.
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I went to private schooling for HS and *** private schooling <.<
And don't even get me started on religious schools
And don't even get me started on religious schools
Religious schools are such a waste of time and money.
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I think a major thing that is being missed on the Public vs. Private is the involvement of the parents. Do private schools have more funding and better opportunities? Yes. But that does not mean that just because your kid goes to private school, they are automatically better off. If parents do not involve themselves in their child's activities (homework, athletics, music, w/e) your child is going to lose the motivation to want to do better.
Back home, a good portion of the private school kids were drug addicts and did not do well in school. The reason was because their parents just threw money at them and any problem, instead of taking an active role in their life. If you wanted to party in HS, you hit up the private school parties because their parents were never home, their houses were huge, and there was anything and everything available to you.
So as much as you want to debate about whether a child is better off in one or the other, you have to take a step back and realize that regardless of where the child is going to school, they can and will thrive with the right support from home.
Back home, a good portion of the private school kids were drug addicts and did not do well in school. The reason was because their parents just threw money at them and any problem, instead of taking an active role in their life. If you wanted to party in HS, you hit up the private school parties because their parents were never home, their houses were huge, and there was anything and everything available to you.
So as much as you want to debate about whether a child is better off in one or the other, you have to take a step back and realize that regardless of where the child is going to school, they can and will thrive with the right support from home.
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