White !! In Dyna = 0.25% Not 1%?

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White !! in dyna = 0.25% not 1%?
 Bahamut.Krizz
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-12-05 14:25:20
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If you're not proccing red on every mob, then you probably want to remedy that before worrying about white procs.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-12-05 14:25:27
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Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Yeah, I should've clarified that.

I agree. For the most part, people won't bother you if you're not competing for the same mob/proc. But I would not be surprised in the least to see it happen.

Speaking of AOEing, I was rather impressed by this PLD the other day. He was pulling entire camps of mobs and AOE WSing them with very little damage. I think at one point he switched to single target kills because he thought I was going to steal mobs. I was just watching though. I'm curious how effective it is for him.

Ochain + dagger for AE spam? Seems like it could work, honestly, with the MP back on Ochain as you block.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-12-05 14:26:04
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Yeah, I should've clarified that.

I agree. For the most part, people won't bother you if you're not competing for the same mob/proc. But I would not be surprised in the least to see it happen.

Speaking of AOEing, I was rather impressed by this PLD the other day. He was pulling entire camps of mobs and AOE WSing them with very little damage. I think at one point he switched to single target kills because he thought I was going to steal mobs. I was just watching though. I'm curious how effective it is for him.

Ochain + dagger for AE spam? Seems like it could work, honestly, with the MP back on Ochain as you block.
Yeah. And he had a WHM mule, though I don't think I saw it do a single action while he was around.

Edit: Once my Ochain is finished, I'm going to try it out for myself. It looked fun.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-12-05 14:27:54
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Ya, that does sound fun lol. Ochains are damn good shields. Abyssea really sent pld a gem with that one.
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By Siren.Mosin 2011-12-05 14:28:40
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well thanks again. maybe the solution is to not ever expect one! lol
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-12-05 14:33:17
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One of the biggest issues is risking the coins we do get to try new things. For example my run last night would've been a complete failure if we had not gotten a white proc. I wanted to try different camps and some NMs. We killed a NM last week (first one we had done in new Dyna), and it dropped a Silverpiece. I need 125 of the damn things, so of course that got me excited. We had NO luck with the NMs last night, and ended up wasting a lot of time. It also didn't help that the other camp was taken, and only supports one person during one of the windows.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-12-05 14:34:46
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I find that slow and steady seems to be the best course of action, despite being harrowingly boring.
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By Carbuncle.Xenhas 2011-12-05 15:01:40
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If anyone wants to collectively pool parsed data, I'm willing to save the next few runs.

i always quintspear SAM/000 + WHM/THF 2box during ws procs.

15% ws proc is correct for sure with 5 TE.

I've only seen two white procs in the last week of farming and they were in the same run, normally 50-70ish mobs procd a run. I'll put in some fresh numbers after the next few days :D

white sucks
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-12-05 15:04:19
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Another question!!!

If a mob has already been proc'ed red can i still white it?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-12-05 15:05:19
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No. White replaces red ~1% of the time.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-12-05 15:12:01
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
No. White replaces red ~1% of the time.
I wish
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-12-05 15:14:36
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So i'm best off just solo procing my own mob and letting the guys proc on theirs?

Sorry for sort of derail.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-12-05 15:17:21
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IMO, they should let you proc, and then they murder it while you pull the next one to proc. Rinse, repeat. They should only proc when the mob has low life, and they should have their back's turned as to not kill it while it's at low HP.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-12-05 15:18:13
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It's just they murder at a rate far faster than I can proc at.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-12-05 15:18:14
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its not a derail ash lol. and ya basically that's it. or help them proc theirs and when its proced you move on to the next mob solo.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-12-05 15:20:28
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
It's just they murder at a rate far faster than I can proc at.
Do it to the best of your ability. If necessary, have them get their own mob and proc/kill it, but someone needs to pull the mob off you when it procs to better ensure quick pulls and white proc possibility.
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2011-12-05 15:55:59
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
It's just they murder at a rate far faster than I can proc at.
Do it to the best of your ability. If necessary, have them get their own mob and proc/kill it, but someone needs to pull the mob off you when it procs to better ensure quick pulls and white proc possibility.
Yeah, when I go w/ a DNC I always pull another mob and back tank to proc it.
That way if the DNC procs theirs first we can switch mobs with little issue
and I can go pull another if need be.

I really like that on SAM/DNC, can back tank and proc np and then destroy the mob and move on.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-12-05 16:20:31
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Unless you are running out of mobs, I don't recommend turning your back to proc. This is especially the case if you have TH.
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By Siren.Pockettaru 2011-12-05 16:30:50
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Have your THF/DCN if your on DNC to help you proc ect when I'm using my THF solo procing and my group rapes so fast.. I just try Step/Flourish then go get a new mob lol. help if u have another procer tho :D glad we all duel box!
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2011-12-05 16:43:49
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Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Unless you are running out of mobs, I don't recommend turning your back to proc. This is especially the case if you have TH.
When my group goes w/ a DNC we typically have a THF and 1-2 SAMs.
As I said, when I'm SAM/DNC I back tank to proc so if the DNC procs his/hers before me
we can switch mobs and I'll down theirs in 1 WS or so and move on while they fight what I was back proc'n.

That way the mob isn't chasing after me while I'm pulling another,
the THF is TH'n everything and throwing JAs as well.

I agree though, I wouldn't back tank on DNC.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-12-08 14:56:33
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1 more i promise XD

Can you still get 100 pieces from NMs even if your sub is unlocked or is no-sub in CoP only way to 100 piece anymore?

And not really something I'll ever find out but in THEORY if you white proc'ed an nm that normally has a possibility to drop one of each 100 piece, do you get all 3, or is it just a guarentee that it will drop 1 100?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-12-08 15:07:30
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Yes, you can get 100s from NMs without proc'ing white.

Yes, NMs can white proc and they drop 4 100s.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-12-08 15:08:10
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Yes, you can get 100s from NMs without proc'ing white. Yes, NMs can white proc and they drop 4 100s.

Thanks boss. I miss the mithra shoulder blades.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-12-08 15:15:45
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Hah. Noted. Maybe I'll go back to it eventually.
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By Siren.Ccarter 2011-12-08 15:28:53
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Siren.Pockettaru said: »
Have your THF/DCN if your on DNC to help you proc ect when I'm using my THF solo procing and my group rapes so fast.. I just try Step/Flourish then go get a new mob lol. help if u have another procer tho :D glad we all duel box!

Dual... just sayin
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By Siren.Pockettaru 2011-12-08 21:24:53
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LMAO! Thx Cc<3 glad you have my back when I epicly fail at life;
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