White !! In Dyna = 0.25% Not 1%?

I actually got 2 white triggers in the same dynamis run just a few days ago. got like 375 singles and 2 hqs.

Normally with our 3 man party, we average 250ish coins, but have topped out at I believe ~330. I notice from your setup, you do not have a thf for TH. I totally believe this makes a world of difference.

Yesterday, my BF and I went in duo as dnc/xxx bst/dnc. We always stay together but kill our own mobs. When mine would die, I would get 1-2 coins consistently, with the occasional 3 or 4. He uses dipper and would get 3-4 coins consistently, with the occasional 1 or 2.

We ended our run with 180 coins. This is definitely not the 150-200 that bsts are talking about solo'ing, so I'm not sure what else is missing. Whatever it is, I would love to know as well. Our average is definitely just shy of 100 coins each and the more people that tag along, the lower the number.

I am also curious how long it takes to take out the TE mobs w/o a bst. Do you just kill off all the adds or do you wait until you can get a good pull? I've noticed that however quick we take out the TE, the more currency we pull in. Of course this has something to do with more time to kill actually Nightmare mobs, but definitely curious how others do it. I would love to solo on nights the old man is at work (I'm not gonna dual box, I would just get us both killed) but the TE mobs always put me off.

Dumb question but does the "no sub" person have to be the person to proc or do they just have to be in party? The page i was reading seemed ambiguous.

Person to proc.

I average 180 solo on BST Elspetta. I can attempt to help your process if you want to take it to PMs.

yes person w/o sub has to proc, which is why its best to have a dnc go subjobless. thats what i do because i can trigger alot of mobs and still be ok w/o sub cuz i can heal myself.

MNK/THF until MNK is 95 on that char (89 now). Then it will be leveled as a THF for the better TH. It doesn't sound right that the difference in TH would make a difference of 100+ coins. (I just checked and noticed TH2 is 45. I suppose TH1 and TH6+ would be a significant difference, but still seems a bit much)

On TEs there are good days and bad days. If one is in a bad position, I will typically chill at it on my WHM while Sav moves on to the next one to check it's position. Once my PLD is 95 and decently geared, I will probably use PLD/DNC to help with kill speed as well as taking out TEs at the same time. We're getting better at our pulls, and typically only have to deal with a couple adds out of all 5 pulls.

So right now we're going as thf/dnc, mnk/dnc, whm/sch, and me as brd. I pull and do the sleeps while the thf and mnk attempt to proc then kill asap (during JA time). Do you think it would be more efficient (profitable) to go as dnc/000 instead of brd and just attempt to proc?

I'm walking out of bubu with 300 currency atm so I have no complaints, but more product for less time wasted is always better.

Yes, it would Ash.

I'd have to check what sleep access SCH has, but I find being able to sleep as WHM/BLM a great help when there is competition. As long as the WHM can cover pulls/sleeps (that's what I do on our runs), it should benefit you more to switch the BRD out.

Idk if its always just mega crowded or what, but I can't seem to pull in NEARLY as much currency as you guys solo, and I'm on dnc/no sub @95 with some pretty decent gear (weapons aside lol)


edit: @Krizz sch has sleep 1 and sleep 2, but only under addendum black.

i knew this was coming lol.

the only reason i don't use oils/powders is because of inventory issues (i have like 4slots max atm, 80/80/80/76) lol. other than that, sure i could oil/powder. infact the thf that comes with me comes thf/war cause he doesn't have dnc sj. and he uses oils/powders to get around. the other issue with locking sj with my setup, is since i go sam. we would have to do all ws procs, which usually don't go as quickly as JA procs.

When it's crowded, it depends on how many mobs you can keep red, and how many jerks there are in the crowd.

I had someone take a mob that I had slept last night. There was nobody around so I decided to melee for mp with my staff instead of constantly taking a knee. He sicced his pet on the mob, I switched target, HIT the mob, and then his pet hit. It gave him the claim.

The fact that I frequently lose mobs that don't turn red when I perform an action really ticks me off.

Edit: Also, I've used flash, holy, slow, and dia on a mob in Dynamis without it turning red. No actions had been performed on it, but it had been sight/sound aggro'd.

i have bad luck in dream lands lol usualy end up linking too many mobs -,- need omeone to duo with realy

If people take my mobs, they get a Bora Axe at 1%. Otherwise, I'm quite nice. I will pull aggro off someone about to die, clear an area where they died, or help get a TE.

so you guys are thinking bad luck or what? I started this conversation back up, but no one is chiming in on if I'm doing it right... ; ;

How're you proc'ing white with a BST with no SJ? Charm or relying on pets?

What method are you using to proc? Are you using JAs or WS? Either way keep in mind that AOE procs were nerfed a couple months ago. Single target procs are your best bet.

I've had people take my links too. People are mad selfish in aby >_<.

been proc'ing JA with dipper. it's fairly consistant, prolly proc 75-80% of ze mobs

Negative on that one mate. I was duoing the other day and my partner's Aeolian Edge, proc'd the mob I was fighting, since we were killing mobs side by side. It still works like a charm, during the appropriate time.

edit: though i guess you mean rate? it happens decently if you spam the right move. I get it to proc other mobs solo during WS time when applicable (though I try for only JA mobs).

man u guys amaze me aint gonna lie. when i solo on bst on a good day i pull 100-110 with luck.

when we go in with our crew we dont pull anywhere near 300+ our last run got crazy lucky and walked out 420 with 2 white procs.


our setup is dnc/xxx thf/dnc whm/rdm(2 boxed) mnk/war and if were lucky we pull 250 in bubu i onno maybe were doing something insanely wrong cause we dont pull what u guys do with a close setup tbh.

if anyone can help me with the solo part and even group part and wanna take it to pms please do would be greatly apreciated.

were also working on apoc kik aegis all at the same time with me currently in the lead on stage 4 with about 30/62 and we been at it for months (that with me soloing alot selling off what i dont need for the stage to buy what i need)

The rate was drastically lowered. Initially the best way (from what I've read) to get massive amounts of procs was AOE WS procs.

Bad luck then.

tyvm

Well, A: you're losing about 20% of your procs right there. B: I wouldn't bother going for white on BST. You'll sacrifice more coins over time than you'd get from a stray white. If you bring a DNC instead, go for white. That's my opinion at least.

ahh OK Krizz. What ya wrote could have been interpreted either way. Nerf as in doesn't work anymore, or nerf as in bad rate :P. Sorry. Would suck though if you AoE proc'd like 4 mobs and then they got stolen...I could so see that happening lol.

thanks for the input. so as an alternative, maybe have one of us on /dnc for the chance of bumping red procs to 100% ??? seems to me to like we shouldn't give up completely on white??? idk...

(niether of us have DNC or THF level'd)

oh speaking of which, the best way to solo currency would be dnc/XXX in dreams, ya? I mean idk how much currency I actually pull in, cuz its usually crowded like hell, but I do at least decently. Better than not farming at all at least lol.

Yeah, I should've clarified that.

I agree. For the most part, people won't bother you if you're not competing for the same mob/proc. But I would not be surprised in the least to see it happen.

Speaking of AOEing, I was rather impressed by this PLD the other day. He was pulling entire camps of mobs and AOE WSing them with very little damage. I think at one point he switched to single target kills because he thought I was going to steal mobs. I was just watching though. I'm curious how effective it is for him.

That's a fine solution, but your white proc rate will drop even more significantly than now.

But, for me, even when I bring DNCs, I prefer to expect nothing and be happily surprised.