Survey POL
Survey POL
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Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
They seem to be trying more and more to justify dropping PS2 support.
This won't fix deep ingrain problems like the FPS cap, because the game is coded like that. But it will make it more likely that newer areas that require more HDD space will be a viable outcome.
The PS2 support needs to be dropped if this game wishes to evolve.
But don't hope for a full remake, because that isn't going to happen. The only thing this will entail is new areas, mobs and anything stopped by the PS2's HDD size.
This won't fix deep ingrain problems like the FPS cap, because the game is coded like that. But it will make it more likely that newer areas that require more HDD space will be a viable outcome.
The PS2 support needs to be dropped if this game wishes to evolve.
But don't hope for a full remake, because that isn't going to happen. The only thing this will entail is new areas, mobs and anything stopped by the PS2's HDD size.
I want 100 inv! I also want everything in the auto translate...
Both are issues.
not really considering the size for the ps3 partition for ffxi and ps2 is smaller than the ps2's hard drive
it's the size that the game is allowed to use via contracts between Sony and SE, not the hardware.
However the ram would eventually cause an issue.
oh and to the people who say ps2 users switch to 360, that would be fine if the system would actually handle the game better than the ps2, it doesn't...
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
They seem to be trying more and more to justify dropping PS2 support.
This won't fix deep ingrain problems like the FPS cap, because the game is coded like that. But it will make it more likely that newer areas that require more HDD space will be a viable outcome.
The PS2 support needs to be dropped if this game wishes to evolve.
But don't hope for a full remake, because that isn't going to happen. The only thing this will entail is new areas, mobs and anything stopped by the PS2's HDD size.
This won't fix deep ingrain problems like the FPS cap, because the game is coded like that. But it will make it more likely that newer areas that require more HDD space will be a viable outcome.
The PS2 support needs to be dropped if this game wishes to evolve.
But don't hope for a full remake, because that isn't going to happen. The only thing this will entail is new areas, mobs and anything stopped by the PS2's HDD size.
I want 100 inv! I also want everything in the auto translate...
Both are issues.
not really considering the size for the ps3 partition for ffxi and ps2 is smaller than the ps2's hard drive
it's the size that the game is allowed to use via contracts between Sony and SE, not the hardware.
However the ram would eventually cause an issue.
Which was brought up many times in the thread.
Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
This topic is a mess. Even if they drop PS2 support the most we'll get in the foreseeable future is increased macro capability and full autotranslate support. Anyone crying over "no real expansion for 4 years/reskinned-x/I-want-y-and-I'm-going-to-***-until-I-get-it" is missing the point. SE isn't about to come out and say "we can't remake the game/make an entire new continent/give you a pony because it's not economically feasible" when they can instead say "lolPS2 limitations". Get it? It is and has always been a cheap excuse (ie LIE) for most things people want.
Memory allocation seems to me to be a real issue. They blamed not being able to give us more inventory space on ps2 limitations. Then they gave us 3 times the amount we can carry on our persons via a work around. Were they lying? Again, I can't say for sure but the facts and recent behavior do not seem to be indicative of that.
I'm sure they hide plenty of things(they are a business, this is what businesses do) but they've been exceptionally open via the forums recently. They had no problems shooting down our ideas and telling us no.
I'd like to see some straight answers for certain though. If the ps2 wasn't supported, what would they do with the game.
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
oh and to the people who say ps2 users switch to 360, that would be fine if the system would actually handle the game better than the ps2, it doesn't...
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
They seem to be trying more and more to justify dropping PS2 support.
This won't fix deep ingrain problems like the FPS cap, because the game is coded like that. But it will make it more likely that newer areas that require more HDD space will be a viable outcome.
The PS2 support needs to be dropped if this game wishes to evolve.
But don't hope for a full remake, because that isn't going to happen. The only thing this will entail is new areas, mobs and anything stopped by the PS2's HDD size.
This won't fix deep ingrain problems like the FPS cap, because the game is coded like that. But it will make it more likely that newer areas that require more HDD space will be a viable outcome.
The PS2 support needs to be dropped if this game wishes to evolve.
But don't hope for a full remake, because that isn't going to happen. The only thing this will entail is new areas, mobs and anything stopped by the PS2's HDD size.
I want 100 inv! I also want everything in the auto translate...
Both are issues.
not really considering the size for the ps3 partition for ffxi and ps2 is smaller than the ps2's hard drive
it's the size that the game is allowed to use via contracts between Sony and SE, not the hardware.
However the ram would eventually cause an issue.
Which was brought up many times in the thread.
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
oh and to the people who say ps2 users switch to 360, that would be fine if the system would actually handle the game better than the ps2, it doesn't...
You don't need gold...
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
oh and to the people who say ps2 users switch to 360, that would be fine if the system would actually handle the game better than the ps2, it doesn't...
Fortunately (and rather surprisingly) you don't need an Xbox Live Gold subscription to play FFXI on the 360. Though that isn't much incentive; owning a 360 is like owning a toy microwave.
I honestly dont see them giving us a survey unless there was a reason behind it. I think its to gauge a percentage of each systems user base. That being said, there is a possibility of ps2 support being dropped if the number of users is small enuff. Im sure they didnt ask us about our systems because "they just want to know".
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
oh and to the people who say ps2 users switch to 360, that would be fine if the system would actually handle the game better than the ps2, it doesn't...
I know, this isn't about extra payments or costs. I just don't like the system. I had a friend let me use his 360 a few times to update payment info since my ps2 hasn't been kept up to date recently and I found it exceptionally annoying. POL is bad enough alone.
Edit: Totally botched that quote...
Spellcast ftw
Carbuncle.Sevourn said: »
hey guys what's a partition
if you've got some desire to understand why it's not as simple as space remaining on your hard drive, go back and read some of the previous threads on the subject
if you've got some desire to understand why it's not as simple as space remaining on your hard drive, go back and read some of the previous threads on the subject
The maximum size for a partition on the APA (Aligned Partition Allocation format) used by the PlayStation 2 is actually the maximum harddrive size, rounded by a multiple of 128MB as the partitions are made of chunks of 128MB, 256MB, 512MB or 1024MB...
Since the PS2 uses 24bit LBA, the theoretical limit is 128GB.
Doesn't matter but the only reason they have a 10GB limit is political, regarding their license of use of the PS2 hardware.
Anyway there's enough argument on both sides of the tug here. I was just trying to show that SOME of the stuff Square-Enix has been touting as reasons to not work on the game decently is actually ***** ...
The fact is that before they didn't want to do the things properly but now that they're hurting in the pockets they seem to be more "soft" about reworking their stuff.
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
This topic is a mess. Even if they drop PS2 support the most we'll get in the foreseeable future is increased macro capability and full autotranslate support. Anyone crying over "no real expansion for 4 years/reskinned-x/I-want-y-and-I'm-going-to-***-until-I-get-it" is missing the point. SE isn't about to come out and say "we can't remake the game/make an entire new continent/give you a pony because it's not economically feasible" when they can instead say "lolPS2 limitations". Get it? It is and has always been a cheap excuse (ie LIE) for most things people want.
Memory allocation seems to me to be a real issue. They blamed not being able to give us more inventory space on ps2 limitations. Then they gave us 3 times the amount we can carry on our persons via a work around. Were they lying? Again, I can't say for sure but the facts and recent behavior do not seem to be indicative of that.
I'm sure they hide plenty of things(they are a business, this is what businesses do) but they've been exceptionally open via the forums recently. They had no problems shooting down our ideas and telling us no.
I'd like to see some straight answers for certain though. If the ps2 wasn't supported, what would they do with the game.
Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
This topic is a mess. Even if they drop PS2 support the most we'll get in the foreseeable future is increased macro capability and full autotranslate support. Anyone crying over "no real expansion for 4 years/reskinned-x/I-want-y-and-I'm-going-to-***-until-I-get-it" is missing the point. SE isn't about to come out and say "we can't remake the game/make an entire new continent/give you a pony because it's not economically feasible" when they can instead say "lolPS2 limitations". Get it? It is and has always been a cheap excuse (ie LIE) for most things people want.
Memory allocation seems to me to be a real issue. They blamed not being able to give us more inventory space on ps2 limitations. Then they gave us 3 times the amount we can carry on our persons via a work around. Were they lying? Again, I can't say for sure but the facts and recent behavior do not seem to be indicative of that.
I'm sure they hide plenty of things(they are a business, this is what businesses do) but they've been exceptionally open via the forums recently. They had no problems shooting down our ideas and telling us no.
I'd like to see some straight answers for certain though. If the ps2 wasn't supported, what would they do with the game.
There's no ugh about new jobs; FFXI needs them. Dem non-Abyssea areas be empty.
A couple of new jobs would be excellent, but I have no ideas for that.
How about this. They kill PS2 and Xbox, but they also kill Spellcast. What then? :o
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Asura.Odihsa said: »
How about this. They kill PS2 and Xbox, but they also kill Spellcast. What then? :o
That an interresting question, who would still be a die hard pc player if the game remained the same and no 3rd party tools worked?
Shiva.Ashmulder said: »
Asura.Odihsa said: »
How about this. They kill PS2 and Xbox, but they also kill Spellcast. What then? :o
That an interresting question, who would still be a die hard pc player if the game remained the same and no 3rd party tools worked?
Not me :x I'd go spend my $13 a month and instead of buy like a new shirt every month or something!
Shiva.Ashmulder said: »
Asura.Odihsa said: »
How about this. They kill PS2 and Xbox, but they also kill Spellcast. What then? :o
That an interresting question, who would still be a die hard pc player if the game remained the same and no 3rd party tools worked?
I could live without it, I think.
Then again, I don't use all those fancy-schmancy scripts and stuff, just Infobar and cooldown timers.
Shiva.Ashmulder said: »
Asura.Odihsa said: »
How about this. They kill PS2 and Xbox, but they also kill Spellcast. What then? :o
That an interresting question, who would still be a die hard pc player if the game remained the same and no 3rd party tools worked?
I don't use any 3rd party tools, so I'm good. lol
Ramuh.Laffter said: »
A couple of new jobs would be excellent, but I have no ideas for that.
Assasin
<insert cool nifty tactics job here>
actualy theres a early quest in Limsa i did on FFXIV that mentions a Geomancer.. friggin FFXI needs it not FFXIV lol
Chemist (and with those, introduce Phoenix Downs)
Geomancer
Gadgeteer (NO ONE would ever invite this to a party)
Juggler
Pictomancer (new pet class...how awesome would this look)
A lot of people say Mime and Arithmetician but those would be broke as ***.
Geomancer
Gadgeteer (NO ONE would ever invite this to a party)
Juggler
Pictomancer (new pet class...how awesome would this look)
A lot of people say Mime and Arithmetician but those would be broke as ***.
Enchanter or Animator
(1)Pet class utilizing animated weapons,
(2) they have light nukes similar to Red Mage
(3) Strong buffs for stats, mp/hp regen
(3) AoE Crowd control spells that temporarily nullify whether or not mobs link, single target versions for Notorious Monsters
(4) Spells that change people's appearance - E.g. Costume
Source-Stolen from Everquest
and Juggler
Moogle as a playable race?
(1)Pet class utilizing animated weapons,
(2) they have light nukes similar to Red Mage
(3) Strong buffs for stats, mp/hp regen
(3) AoE Crowd control spells that temporarily nullify whether or not mobs link, single target versions for Notorious Monsters
(4) Spells that change people's appearance - E.g. Costume
Source-Stolen from Everquest
and Juggler
Moogle as a playable race?
As much as i would love a new job to play with... There is no way it would help the situation that FFXI is in right now. Most jobs don't have a real set niche as it is, some that had ones have lost them and adding more is just going to take something unique from other jobs or add in places where other jobs can already handle making the new ones obsolete before they even start the race. Current balance is off and needs some serious adjustment before anyone can even consider adding new jobs as dream crushing as it is.
This thread really has been all over the place topic wise. I hope they let us know what this survey is about.
This thread really has been all over the place topic wise. I hope they let us know what this survey is about.
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Just to add to causality....
Even "if" they did redo the game and they did add new jobs.....
other then introducing the jobs in a expansion....how would they apply to the current storyline? o.0
Even "if" they did redo the game and they did add new jobs.....
other then introducing the jobs in a expansion....how would they apply to the current storyline? o.0
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
That's a pretty big assumption, chief.
There are a lot of players currently playing and enjoying the new content. As was evident the last time I logged in with the amount of shouts and general population.
Every week or so there's a letter from the producer. If the game was in fact losing customers from this endeavour, I'm fairly sure they would have stopped working on this game months ago. Each new update improves things and brings people back to play, It's evident from any XIV players you speak to that the game has been getting more populated with each successful update.
They are listening to the players and making changes that the players want, which isn't exactly like every MMO I can think of right now. It just sounds pretty juvenile when every XI fan jumps on the "OMG XIV IS DEAD" bandwagon.
on topic: please drop ps2, im sick and tired of making decisions concerning tossing gear i cant afford to make room for.
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