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By Odin.Blazza 2011-06-04 08:47:02
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Valefor.Prothescar said:
Consecutive SCs off of the same Azure Lore:

SC 1 - Disseverment -> Goblin Rush -> Benthic Typhoon -> Quad. Continuum
SC 2 - Disseverment -> Goblin Rush -> Vertical Cleave -> Quad. Continuum



With Almace:

Quad. Continuum > Cannonball > Benthic Typhoon > Sub-zero smash > Goblin Rush > Chant du Cygne
What's recast on Quad and Gobby Rush? Or Disseverement for that matter, gonna need to be <15 seconds for that to work. I also wouldn't count on being able to use CDC afterwards.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-06-04 08:58:11
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Odin.Blazza said:
Valefor.Prothescar said:
Consecutive SCs off of the same Azure Lore:

SC 1 - Disseverment -> Goblin Rush -> Benthic Typhoon -> Quad. Continuum
SC 2 - Disseverment -> Goblin Rush -> Vertical Cleave -> Quad. Continuum



With Almace:

Quad. Continuum > Cannonball > Benthic Typhoon > Sub-zero smash > Goblin Rush > Chant du Cygne
What's recast on Quad and Gobby Rush? Or Disseverement for that matter, gonna need to be <15 seconds for that to work. I also wouldn't count on being able to use CDC afterwards.

Yeah assume you'd use CA somewhere in there, so you probably would'nt have the tp to use CDC at the end.
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By Asura.Erics 2011-06-04 12:50:39
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Odin.Blazza said:
Valefor.Prothescar said:
Consecutive SCs off of the same Azure Lore: SC 1 - Disseverment -> Goblin Rush -> Benthic Typhoon -> Quad. Continuum SC 2 - Disseverment -> Goblin Rush -> Vertical Cleave -> Quad. Continuum With Almace: Quad. Continuum > Cannonball > Benthic Typhoon > Sub-zero smash > Goblin Rush > Chant du Cygne
What's recast on Quad and Gobby Rush? Or Disseverement for that matter, gonna need to be <15 seconds for that to work. I also wouldn't count on being able to use CDC afterwards.
Yeah assume you'd use CA somewhere in there, so you probably would'nt have the tp to use CDC at the end.

Maybe try to do that SC towards the end of the 2hr. So when using a TP wing at the end, you're not wasting any of the 2hr, to end with CDC
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-06-04 12:54:26
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CDC is a separate SC pattern. If you have or are using CDC, use the 3rd SC and nothing else. The other two are for if you don't have CDC. The one involving CDC allows for double light.

Skillchains cap at 6 per chain afaik
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By Odin.Blazza 2011-06-04 23:50:48
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What I meant though, was that I wouldn't be surprised if they make it so that using a spell under AL removes our tp just like CA. Maybe they won't though, in which case you're right, that'd be a hell of a SC.
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By Ronoclem 2011-07-12 15:14:25
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I tried Blazza's chain from this post (ty for the info Blazza)

Chain Affinity > Savage Blade > Quad Continuum > Azure Lore > Cannonball > Vertical Cleave > Ram Charge > Disseverement > Goblin Rush > Benthic Typhoon > Quad Continuum.

First try was an epic fail! my macros were not timed correctly and I had spells going off in the 1 sec you need to wait before the next spell can SC.
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First try I only had 3 SCs go off. I did not macro in gear I was wearing DD gear. I wanted to fix my macro timing and see the chains.
wearing: dusk gloves and Ledelsen +1, legs/head/body AF3+2, twilight belt, atheling mantle, rajas, spiral ring, Suppanomimi, Brutal earring, Shamshir x 2 (str & Dex), meat mithkabob

Atma: VV, MM, GH
Target: Adamastor, La Theine (A)

yup not the best choice in gear or atma but I was not after max DMG.
Total damage of WS, Spells & Skillchains in 36 seconds was: 14,154. AL wore Just before Quad. C. but I got darkness anyway. The macro times were all wrong, too fast.
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Second try had better timing 6/7 Skillchains(Lost Disseverment SC to my bad timing). Same gear but swapped DEX Shamshir for VIT

Atma: VV, MM, Mounted champion.
Target: Adamastor, La Theine (A)

Total damage of WS, Spells & Skillchains in 36 seconds was: 14,525. AL wore Just before Before Benthic Typhoon but I got Gravation.
Timing was correct after adjusting for the last hit in the long multihit animations. I'm sure I could tighten up the timing a little but I'm not convinced all steps can be completed and SC'd in the allowed time.
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Both runs took the NM to 50% -ish putting him around 28-30k hp

Suggestions:
AL chains feed TP fast it'll be dangerous on NMs that tp para, silence, doom, petrify, etc. Dominion Screens & temp meds FTW.

build lights up, set WoR & dream Flower(set points are a tight squeeze), drag them to the ??? & weaken them, spawn NM, AoE kill mobs, 2h than spam keys with a macro >>
/item "Forbidden key" <stnpc>
and start again! you'll need the HP at that point too!

If your using a chain with Benthic Typhoon near the end use the spell when the NM is popped to lower its def before you chain and be sure you got enough on the recast time before you 2 hour.

have emergency macros in case a 1 hit spell misses to continue the chain. (I have no suggestions here yet, I need to do some study on that)

any suggestion on using this with a brew or a better AL chain with a brew? (I'm aware from other posts magic > physical for brew)

Atma? I'm thinking of piling on the Crit dmg & Crit hit rate.
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By Sylph.Kollosis 2011-07-12 15:18:20
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Cerberus.Sey said:
Get happy all you want. Someone will always interrupt your skillchains.

Life of a BLU.
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By Odin.Blazza 2011-07-12 21:50:52
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Blu magic doesn't crit without sneak attack. As for the macros, I wouldn't even try making one big one personally, I'd just menu select them.
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By Sylph.Kwate 2011-07-15 22:04:19
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Dumb question here, I use windower but never used spellcast (lost when i read some of the configurations). Am I able to set one mac for 2HR spells? If so how once I download it? I can fit the correct numerals for /wait in between spells, just want to avoid using multiple mac buttons to complete this.


Azure Lore > Vertical Cleave> Sub Zero Smash > Disseverment > Goblin Rush > Benthic Typhoon > CA+Efflux Quad. Cont.
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By Valefor.Sylvr 2011-07-17 20:52:05
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Personally, I like the [Disseverment > Goblin Rush > Benthic Typhoon > CA+Efflux + Quad. Continuum] chain as it uses all of my best DD spells that I will already have equipped, and I can throw a Savage Blade in front of it if I happen to have TP and it will just bump each SC by 25% (and add one extra Distortion).

I used the above minus Savage Blade to take Alexander Prime down to ~44% upon engaging, and that was after Efflux failed to go off because I fumbled my macros.

I need to see if I can somehow tweak it to start with Benthic Typhoon for the DEF down on the initial hit instead of close to the end.

Unfortunately, once I get Almace, and if I want to take advantage of Double Light instead of CA+Efflux, I'll have to set some extra spells that I might never use outside of Azure Lore.

IS Double Light with CDC going to put out better numbers than just a single Darkness ending with CA+Efflux Quad?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-07-17 20:58:29
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Makes it 6 steps, ending in two level 3 SCs, the first doing 200% and the second doing 225% of CDC. Pretty hard to beat that.
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By Leviathan.Gotterdammerung 2011-07-22 03:30:56
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can sumone test this one for me?
Whirl of rage > Vanity dive > detonation
>Empty thrash > Gravitation
>Sub zero smash > Fragmentation
> Goblin Rush > Light
> Chant du cygne > double light

If it works, I wonder if we can throw the whole update in there for supa update c-c-c-combo breaker!

chain affinity the Goblin rush

Close the light witha sengikori Sneak attacked Fudo insted of chant du cygne

Then have a cor with +2 feet light shot it

Then have a pld use a divine emblem holy to burst it!!!
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By attilas 2011-07-22 06:36:37
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Valefor.Sylvr said:
I need to see if I can somehow tweak it to start with Benthic Typhoon for the DEF down on the initial hit instead of close to the

Blue mage attack rating doesn't affect blue magic DD spell. So does enemy defense raise our blue magic DD spell ?? Usualy attack is compared to defense in the math begind de scene no ? Always tought DD base damage spell was affected by STR vs VIT of enemy...
 
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By Leviathan.Gotterdammerung 2011-07-22 16:31:14
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Valefor.Prothescar said:
Skillchains cap at 6 per chain afaik
If you're talking in general, skillchains can go on forever repeating solo as a sam. If you mean blue mages are forced to stop after 6 then I couldnt tell ya


He means the damage boost to the skillchain won't get any higher after the 6th weaponskill. Yeh they can keep going but the 6th one and everyone after will be capped at 90% of WS dmg for tier 1, 150% ws dmg for tier 2, and 225% ws damage for tier 3. But you can still boost it beyond that with JA's like sengikori and traits like Skillchain bonus.
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By Ska681 2011-07-22 16:54:33
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just a thought but wouldnt a PLD using cover let the blu 2hr zerg then you have rest of the team come in and zerg whats left of the mob?
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By Ifrit.Blackfiredragon 2011-07-24 21:43:50
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Would anyone happen to have a Macro set for this that they would be willing to post? Just wanted to try this out, if not then no worries.
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By kenshynofshiva 2011-07-27 15:20:39
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Here is one with the macros and waits included:
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GagBag
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leomike35 wrote:
You guys mind inserting the actual <wait #s> in the list so that I can duplicate faster w/o having to waste 2hrs on trying to get that part right? I appreciate it. Good job guys!!!! Cant wait to try this on some NM that I can solo.


I Manually use Azore Lore then hit my macros:

Macro 1
/ma "Vertical Cleave" <t> <wait5>
/ma "Sub-Zero Smash" <t> <wait7>
/ma "Disseverment" <t> <wait6>
/ma "Goblin Rush" <t> <wait6>
/ma "Bentic Typhoon" <t> <wait1>
/echo Start Next Line!!

Macro 2
/ja "Chain Affinity" <me> <wait1>
/ja "Efflux" <me> <wait1>
/ma "Quadratic Continuum" <t>

Tips:

- Revitalizer will allow you to do 2 Azure Lore back to back
- Frantics Drinks + Frantics Powders will buy you 2 mins of invincibility, and additional Mins for each pt member with a Frantics Powder.
- Fighting NM next to ISL chests will enable you to restore you 2HR ability. (use /item macro)

It takes about ~35 seconds to complete the chain. There is not much a monster can do within 30 seconds but you still want to watch for things like Paralyze, Sleep, Silence, Terror, Stun, Knock Back, Blind, Flash, Shadows/Blink, Magic/Physical barrier, High-Evasion etc. Obviously NMs that cast magic would be a nightmare, or NMs that recover HP when attacked under certain conditions.... like Glavoid >.>

Edited, Jul 13th 2011 6:17am by GagBag

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By Ifrit.Blackfiredragon 2011-07-28 22:31:40
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Thank you very much =). One more stupid question lol does <echo> work on xbox 360?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-07-28 23:01:22
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/echo works on every console, it's a basic command~
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2011-08-21 18:20:38
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Any testing to show if The Boosts to CA on the +2 hat affect spells under Azure lore?(thinking the game just has CA set to always on durring Azure lore now)
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-08-21 18:22:20
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CA does a number of things other than simply letting spells skillchain and all of those properties are still tied to CA, not Azure Lore.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2011-08-21 18:31:37
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
CA does a number of things other than simply letting spells skillchain and all of those properties are still tied to CA, not Azure Lore.

well atleast he answered the base question. <3 but still cute he assumed i didnt now what CA did.
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By Shiva.Fionne 2011-08-25 20:42:58
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Video I made trying to do it, missed first spell but rest chained for a 5 part skillchain.

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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-08-25 20:47:37
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Ragnarok.Lugat said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
CA does a number of things other than simply letting spells skillchain and all of those properties are still tied to CA, not Azure Lore.

well atleast he answered the base question. <3 but still cute he assumed i didnt now what CA did.
I certainly assumed something, but that's not what I assumed.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-08-25 21:24:05
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hoooooooooooooooooooo
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-25 21:25:25
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OH SNAP
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By Asura.Tawhoya 2011-10-19 19:57:26
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Anyone come up with anything new or better since the update?
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By Bahamut.Baozzer 2013-05-22 00:37:32
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From what is posted above, Heavy strike can replace sub zero smash; and Amorphic spikes replace BT and VC for better damaging spells. But I'm just guessing haven't had the time to try it out yet.
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