Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
r u saying im a liar?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/insinuating
I don't like being called a lair bro...
"Hundred Shields" PLD :)
"Hundred shields" PLD :)
How can someone call you something that you called yourself? :o
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/insinuating
I don't like being called a lair bro...
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Ochain is going to be nerfed, SE already said this.
Where?
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Why are you guys feeding the troll?
The competent people here that have Ochain/Aegis/etc and have done the tests and are keeping up with the notes aren't wasting their time with Draylo's obvious attempt to troll, so no one else should.
Get the *** out.
Additionally, back on topic:
Making Aegis's MDT go beyond the cap would be a great easy fix for it being highly useful again against magic casting NMs (I prefer Aegis over Ochain when tanking AV, though we still zerg it atm usually). However I don't see SE doing this. I always expect the lowest standard from them, so I'm expecting some shitty 5% proc rate "absorb magic damage" or something along those lines.
We'll see.
The competent people here that have Ochain/Aegis/etc and have done the tests and are keeping up with the notes aren't wasting their time with Draylo's obvious attempt to troll, so no one else should.
Get the *** out.
Additionally, back on topic:
Making Aegis's MDT go beyond the cap would be a great easy fix for it being highly useful again against magic casting NMs (I prefer Aegis over Ochain when tanking AV, though we still zerg it atm usually). However I don't see SE doing this. I always expect the lowest standard from them, so I'm expecting some shitty 5% proc rate "absorb magic damage" or something along those lines.
We'll see.
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Ragnarok.Martel said:
Personally, I want them to make it "Converts 25% DMG taken to MP&TP upon successful block".... Hey, I can dream, right? Or maybe some Shield mastery+...
More realistically, I'd like a bit more DMG reduction on block/more DEF.
More realistically, I'd like a bit more DMG reduction on block/more DEF.
blocking more dmg then 0 is still 0 tho right...? just chekcing :P haha pld derp derp
For Aegis, I still like the idea of either:
1: Allowing it to block magical damage, for a suitably amount of dmg, in a separate term from MDT. At a decently high block rate.
or
2: Add a massive amount of magic evasion to Aegis. Make it a one piece resist build. Magic dmg, enfeebles, WS add effects, none of its gonna stick with enough resistance.
1: Allowing it to block magical damage, for a suitably amount of dmg, in a separate term from MDT. At a decently high block rate.
or
2: Add a massive amount of magic evasion to Aegis. Make it a one piece resist build. Magic dmg, enfeebles, WS add effects, none of its gonna stick with enough resistance.
Asura.Jaybezz said:
Ragnarok.Martel said:
Personally, I want them to make it "Converts 25% DMG taken to MP&TP upon successful block".... Hey, I can dream, right? Or maybe some Shield mastery+...
More realistically, I'd like a bit more DMG reduction on block/more DEF.
More realistically, I'd like a bit more DMG reduction on block/more DEF.
blocking more dmg then 0 is still 0 tho right...? just chekcing :P haha pld derp derp
There are quite a lot of mobs that hit for 0 on shield blocks after phalanx. More dmg reduction would make more mobs hit for 0. And I still get TP for it. ^^
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
r u saying im a liar?
Whatcha gunna do about it? lol..you know you troll ah.com honestly why do you care if ppl you don't know nor care about call you a liar?
Did it hurt your feelings?
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Ragnarok.Martel said:
Asura.Jaybezz said:
Ragnarok.Martel said:
Personally, I want them to make it "Converts 25% DMG taken to MP&TP upon successful block".... Hey, I can dream, right? Or maybe some Shield mastery+...
More realistically, I'd like a bit more DMG reduction on block/more DEF.
More realistically, I'd like a bit more DMG reduction on block/more DEF.
blocking more dmg then 0 is still 0 tho right...? just chekcing :P haha pld derp derp
There are quite a lot of mobs that hit for 0 on shield blocks after phalanx. More dmg reduction would make more mobs hit for 0. And I still get TP for it. ^^
lol ^^ yeh going 2 say the Aegis SE might BYpass the magic hard cap for aegis owners(cap is 50%) what u think? 25% gear 25%(noob shell5) THEN 30-40% from shield? that would put it on par with Ochain 2 its phy counterpart.
Phoenix.Neosutra said:
Why aren't you changing gear when you WS/cast...
Please tell me it's blinkmenot.
Please Atoreis.
Please.
Please tell me it's blinkmenot.
Please Atoreis.
Please.
Watch the chat log in the movie there is plenty on inventory changed :)
It's not blinkmenot it's lag :D
This is cool, but why not one-shot them with charged whisker and move on? I hate to sound like a broken record about PLD because I do appreciate the job and I enjoyed leveling/playing it, but there's no reason to use PLD over BLU in abyssea. If BLU can cleave five times faster than PLD then what's the point of this? Once amber is capped, AoEing with aeolian edge does not result in any more amber chests than whisker.
I really hate to crap on PLD more because I don't consider myself part of the "PLD is dead bandwagon," but in this case I really don't see the point of using PLD. Maybe someone can elucidate it for me?
I really hate to crap on PLD more because I don't consider myself part of the "PLD is dead bandwagon," but in this case I really don't see the point of using PLD. Maybe someone can elucidate it for me?
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Bismarck.Helel said:
This is cool, but why not one-shot them with charged whisker and move on? I hate to sound like a broken record about PLD because I do appreciate the job and I enjoyed leveling/playing it, but there's no reason to use PLD over BLU in abyssea. If BLU can cleave five times faster than PLD then what's the point of this? Once amber is capped, AoEing with aeolian edge does not result in any more amber chests than whisker.
I really hate to crap on PLD more because I don't consider myself part of the "PLD is dead bandwagon," but in this case I really don't see the point of using PLD. Maybe someone can elucidate it for me?
I really hate to crap on PLD more because I don't consider myself part of the "PLD is dead bandwagon," but in this case I really don't see the point of using PLD. Maybe someone can elucidate it for me?
show me a blu than can kill bukis like that... derp derp ^^
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Well he claims that the game glitches when you kill all mobs at once and you don't get full exp rewarded so he does it on PLD instead.
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Bismarck.Helel said:
This is cool, but why not one-shot them with charged whisker and move on? I hate to sound like a broken record about PLD because I do appreciate the job and I enjoyed leveling/playing it, but there's no reason to use PLD over BLU in abyssea. If BLU can cleave five times faster than PLD then what's the point of this? Once amber is capped, AoEing with aeolian edge does not result in any more amber chests than whisker. I really hate to crap on PLD more because I don't consider myself part of the "PLD is dead bandwagon," but in this case I really don't see the point of using PLD. Maybe someone can elucidate it for me?
Did you watch the NM fight video?
Edit: But I agree the rest is unremarkable except for those who figured PLD couldn't 'FC' to begin with - which certainly doesn't require Ochain.
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While neat, still doesnt make pld useful :/
Sylph.Kimble said:
While neat, still doesnt make pld useful :/
I'll agree only because for the NMs it does require Ochain and Almace be an effective, fast kill. Otherwise, this makes PLD just as useful as every other Job in Abyssea that is known for doing solo/lowman work. All you need is a MNK and a WHM... or in this case a PLD and a WHM. PLD just has to have both emps.
Bismarck.Helel said:
This is cool, but why not one-shot them with charged whisker and move on? I hate to sound like a broken record about PLD because I do appreciate the job and I enjoyed leveling/playing it, but there's no reason to use PLD over BLU in abyssea. If BLU can cleave five times faster than PLD then what's the point of this? Once amber is capped, AoEing with aeolian edge does not result in any more amber chests than whisker.
I really hate to crap on PLD more because I don't consider myself part of the "PLD is dead bandwagon," but in this case I really don't see the point of using PLD. Maybe someone can elucidate it for me?
I really hate to crap on PLD more because I don't consider myself part of the "PLD is dead bandwagon," but in this case I really don't see the point of using PLD. Maybe someone can elucidate it for me?
PLD will kill those mobs in like 15-20 sec
BLU will in about the same.
Phoenix.Vael said:
Sylph.Kimble said:
While neat, still doesnt make pld useful :/
I'll agree only because for the NMs it does require Ochain and Almace be an effective, fast kill. Otherwise, this makes PLD just as useful as every other Job in Abyssea that is known for doing solo/lowman work. All you need is a MNK and a WHM... or in this case a PLD and a WHM. PLD just has to have both emps.
Well, honestly any DD + WHM can prob kill anything, just can take longer.
Asura.Jaybezz said:
Bismarck.Helel said:
This is cool, but why not one-shot them with charged whisker and move on? I hate to sound like a broken record about PLD because I do appreciate the job and I enjoyed leveling/playing it, but there's no reason to use PLD over BLU in abyssea. If BLU can cleave five times faster than PLD then what's the point of this? Once amber is capped, AoEing with aeolian edge does not result in any more amber chests than whisker.
I really hate to crap on PLD more because I don't consider myself part of the "PLD is dead bandwagon," but in this case I really don't see the point of using PLD. Maybe someone can elucidate it for me?
I really hate to crap on PLD more because I don't consider myself part of the "PLD is dead bandwagon," but in this case I really don't see the point of using PLD. Maybe someone can elucidate it for me?
I've heard several different numbers, 8 mobs, 10 mobs, 12 mobs, 16 mobs, etc. Either way it doesn't matter if a PLD "pulls the key amount" so can BLU and 1-2 shot them... 3-4 if your BLU is lacking like mine :D
That being said the 2nd video is very cool and also a very nice alternative method to small manning NMs.
Phoenix.Vael said:
Sylph.Kimble said:
While neat, still doesnt make pld useful :/
I'll agree only because for the NMs it does require Ochain and Almace be an effective, fast kill. Otherwise, this makes PLD just as useful as every other Job in Abyssea that is known for doing solo/lowman work. All you need is a MNK and a WHM... or in this case a PLD and a WHM. PLD just has to have both emps.
Just ochain, aftermath is kind of useless with that TP gain your getting from shield blocks if thats what your doing, so you can use the WoE sword, or even spam vorpal blade and still be effective.
Anyway PLD can do most aoe burning in abyssea solo, until you put an nm in the mix, thats what makes it worth while, because on war spamming fell cleave i usually need at least a WHM. Where as on PLD i can pull the mobs myself, run to a wall to stack them and kill them myself, in about the same amount of time.
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Well he claims that the game glitches when you kill all mobs at once and you don't get full exp rewarded so he does it on PLD instead.
Bahamut.Zorander said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Well he claims that the game glitches when you kill all mobs at once and you don't get full exp rewarded so he does it on PLD instead.
Wait, what? ive cleaved a lot of times and killed more then 8 mobs and gotten each for each one.
Sylph.Kimble said:
Bahamut.Zorander said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Well he claims that the game glitches when you kill all mobs at once and you don't get full exp rewarded so he does it on PLD instead.
At first we thought it was just chat log over flow..so we looked at xp pre pull and post pull and it always added up to 8 (might have been 9 but never more than 9).
Don't know if it was some kinda nerf or not.
Think last time I cleaved was about... 2-3 weeks ago.
I think the key to xp glitch is were all mobs are killing with 1 Charged Wisker. If kills are staggered then xp credit might happen for more than the first 8~9 mobs.
We have remedied this by bringing more than 1 blu to ls leechfest. Eash blu pulls 8ish mobs and solo's there own set of mobs. Thus giving full xp credit to leechers/Ki holders.
We have remedied this by bringing more than 1 blu to ls leechfest. Eash blu pulls 8ish mobs and solo's there own set of mobs. Thus giving full xp credit to leechers/Ki holders.
Eh, I plan to cleave again soon to get my alts THF up so ill keep an eye on it and see whats up.
Cleaved 4-5 times in the last week and got exp for all mobs.
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