Ukko's Fury Setup

Jokes aside. I strongly recommend taking that one step further and finishing Ukonvasara. Glavoid isn't so bad, and past that it only gets better.

'cept Tunga.

i'll tunga you

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Welcome back.

tyyyy, what i miss?!

Not a whole lot I don't think.

Working on 3rd emp right now. Have others to work on as well so will redo the nm's when the time comes for that. For now I just want to ukko stuff.

Don't even bother... Just cleave the normal chigoes and get his KI out of boxes... I finished the level 85 stage in 4 days of cleaving.

Honestly, why even bother with the poor version when you know you will be working on the good one in a timely matter.
I understand having other Emps otw and all, especially if you are working through a static group, but even more because of that, why waste other people's time (not just your own) with a mid-step weapon?

BTW, Level 90 Ukon tonight!

Was wondering if +3 Crit rate +2 Accuracy Bellicus Cuisses would be worth using for Ukkos?

No. get some WS damage with crit rate up in there.

No, but WSDMG+2% ones can be useful even without a crit hit augment on them.

So inside abyssea with RR/SS atmas, rcb food, and blood rage up your looking at crit rate and hit of:

Crit rate(30% RR, 30% Ukko, 20% dDEX, 5% merit, 20% BR = 105%)
Crit Hit(30% RR, 30% SS, 10% af3+2 feet, 8% job trait, 20% BR = 98%)

My proposed itemset for Ukko would be this


Now I have a few questions about the set.
Is the extra 2% crit hit worth it to put in? If so, the easiest fix I see is add N.hands+1 with crit augments. Easy enough but is it worth losing 5 STR?
Next, with all the attack from head, body, and back pieces are af3+2 pants still worth using? Are H.haidate actually useful for Ukko now with so much STR? Or maybe an aug'd E.legs with STR+10-11. Basically is the attack still worth it, or will STR pull ahead? Or is the 2% ws dmg from bellicus the best? Lots of options for pants.
Also, is there a better option that breeze gorget. I'm thinking there is not.
Thoughts?

I was under the impression having both job traits for critical attack bonus gave a 13% bonus. If true, you would be at 101% and Heafoc would win. If not, I would imagine the 2% from Hecatomb mittens +1 would do more damage than the 5 STR from using Heafoc. Someone with more math knowledge would have to confirm this.

Bellicus Cuisses with WSDMG+2%, 2 STR, and 3 ATT vs DA+5% and 15 ATT is what you would be looking at. Once again, I'm not a math expert, but if you are using Apoc Atma, this 5% DA will not proc the 10% of the time TA procs. Also consider a lot of the time you will have a Stalwarts and your attack will be more than high enough to lose the 15 on the AF+2 legs.

If the mob you are fighting has roughly 120-130 AGI or less, the Dex from Byakko's Haidate becomes useless. Even if they have more than this, your dDex will be high enough to have crit rate capped because of the Claymore Grip you forgot to factor into your crit rate. I have no idea how much AGI the highest tiered mobs inside have, but if it's 150-160+, AF+2 head should be considered to cap crit rate.

With Blood Rage down, and if dDex is capped, Rancor Collar and AF+2 head will bring you to 96% crit rate. If BR is active, stick with the gorget.

I would use the AF3+2 legs until you acquire some Bellicus Cuisses like Bohgo mentioned. As for everything else, looks pretty solid to me.

It's +5% first Critical Attack Bonus trait, +8% second, +~13% third Critical Attack Bonus trait (only Thf confirmed to have it iirc). War Drk and Dnc still have T2 trait to my knowledge.

Replacing the Mekira oto+1 w/ mask+2 will increase the sets dmg. Heafoc>heca+1. I didn't math belli vs ravagers, but 5da should add more than 2ws dmg.

Edit: My math was a little off but fixed now. The conclusions didn't change.

Math in spoiler

Sorry I was talking about Hachiryu Haidate for the STR


Wow thank you for running the math. How is that possible though! I'm shocked mask pulls ahead so far. Makes the set a lot easier to complete though. Does it pull ahead simply because of the double attack?
Think you could do the math for the set with addition of Hachiryu Haidate or E.legs with STR+11.

Fairly certain math on Hachi pants was done earlier in this thread and it was losing.

Thanks for running the numbers. Just one question...does this factor in DA not procing because TA did or doesn't this matter?

Ya it had hachiryu losing way back in the beginning of heroes zones for a blood rage down set up. I'm specifically asking for this only blood rage up itemset. Though seeing how mask+2 completely dominated +8STR and +16 attack for only 4% double attack, I'm not sure that +11STR on E.legs could beat +5% double attack on af3+2 legs. Either way, the math would be interesting to see.

I am assuming that since the set is attack heavy your capping pdif in that math, so the hardest mobs in abyssea might be a little closer but I would expect af3+2 to remain ahead. I was more suprised by heafoc beating heca. Thought 2% dmg(2% crit dmg at 100% rate). I'll try to get around to mathing out some legs in a few hours when i'm out of my classes.

Did the legs math. Was right about af3+2 being the best option with BR up.

math in spoiler

So from what I read bellicus with +3 cRatio 2% wpn. skill damage are THE best ukkos pants considering BR is down?

+3 crit rate +2 ws should still be the best ws pants.

cRatio is (slightly simplified) the ratio of your attack over the mobs defense.

That's great news. Thank you for posting the math. This is a must have set seeing as how with a 1 minute blood rage timer, this set will account for about ~20% of your weaponskills.
Also, nice Superjail avatar

Quoting because people need to see this. Note though that Heafoc mitts pull ahead of NMitts

I fully support the idea of a summary post such as that one to save people the time of looking through the last 14 pages for answers about gear for standard gear sets.

That being said, none of the above sets are ideal. The tp sets dont mention radiant mail(which is better for things you dont need acc on), The WS sets dont include Bellicus legs, and rancor collar is only mentioned in passing. multiple bodys beat grim+1 for high attack abyssea/outside sets. There are other small things that would likely be improvements to the sets but would require math to prove.

I'm sorry to have to critique the post harshly, but saying "people need to see this" is misleading to any new ukons that stumble upon this thread looking for help. As the author said:

-The gorgets are better than Rancor collar for Ukko's (but not RR).
-AF3+2 and Byakko's are better than Bellicus for Ukko's (but not RR).
-NMitts+1 with +4% crit damage are better than Heafoc.

By, "not a lot of time" committed to reaching the conclusions, what I meant was regarding equipment released from the 95 cap update; hence overlooking your posted TP set using the STP ring. The sets I posted were optimal at the 90 cap, and by the looks of it, still optimal at the 95 cap.

By "optimal" I mean for an overwhelming majority of cases. There are most likely better choices for a highly evasive mob or a mob with low AGI outside of Abyssea.