Winners this update: SCH BST THF /DNC
Losers: DNC PLD DRK
SE gave DNC the big screw-job by lowering the level on Curing Waltz III, and SCH (heck even /SCH) really won big-time. Wonder if the Sublimation changes will affect /SCH as well, or if its SCH-exclusive. Considering they got Stoneskin/Blink/Aquaveil/Blaze/Ice/Shock Spikes, the Change to Sublimation is another layer of cake on top of an already massive cake. Grats to THFs that have to get off their butts and actually contribute to make their TH work
Job Adjustments (12/03/2010)
Job Adjustments (12/03/2010)
obviously they won't Degs...but idk if it was just on my server but there is a LOT of TH superstition... "THF HAS TO GET KILL SHOT!!" was a popular one for years... so ya... of course there is going to be a cap, but people WILL be stupid about it..
Quetzalcoatl.Brayenn said:
Ragnarok.Cerelyn said:
When is the version update anyway?
like 4 post above yours >.> people read at all or just reply to OP?
Short answer, yes, post right after OP.
Long answer, just got home from work = lazy/tired to read through 7 pages.
btw, fixed the OP Ninjutsu table:
S: Two ninjutsu-specific tools will be expended.
U: Two universal tools will be expended.
x: Futae will fail to activate and its effect will be canceled.
| Ninjutsu-specific Tool | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 1 | 2 or more | ||
| Universal Tool | 0 | - | x | S |
| 1 | x | x | S | |
| 2 or more | U | x | S | |
S: Two ninjutsu-specific tools will be expended.
U: Two universal tools will be expended.
x: Futae will fail to activate and its effect will be canceled.
SCH4lyfe. I am so happy about SCH right now....
Interesting thing, though... they didn't say "Part I". Is it safe to assume these are the ONLY job adjustments in this upcoming update?
Leviathan.Bassclef said:
Interesting thing, though... they didn't say "Part I". Is it safe to assume these are the ONLY job adjustments in this upcoming update?
Any other job adjustments from here on out will likely be nerfs.
Like when RDM got enmity nerfed; it wasn't mentioned until the update itself came.
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Leviathan.Bassclef said:
Interesting thing, though... they didn't say "Part I". Is it safe to assume these are the ONLY job adjustments in this upcoming update?
Any other job adjustments from here on out will likely be nerfs.
Like when RDM got enmity nerfed; it wasn't mentioned until the update itself came.
they do from time to time throw a sly adjustment in there somewhere, but usually its something small and or insignificant, and like Mahayaya said, usually is a nerf of sorts..
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Phoenix.Degs said:
they do from time to time throw a sly adjustment in there somewhere, but usually its something small and or insignificant, and like Mahayaya said, usually is a nerf of sorts..
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Sylph.Chrisstreb said:
Winners this update: SCH BST THF /DNC
Losers: DNC PLD DRK
Losers: DNC PLD DRK
Biggest Loser in all of this : PUP
Seriously, not a damn thing lol
Caitsith.Heimdall said:
well thing is since raise and almost every sch went /rdm sublimation has been near useless add to that refresh 2 it had no practicly use outside a startign charge. Same reason sch now geting SS before when sub was used couldnt have ss since it negates the drian of iy but now since used so lil and have ss subed anyways dont really matter.
wat
Also, what's all this talk of the stratagem recharge not getting reduced? It wasn't even mentioned at all so I think it's safe to assume the mechanics of it will be exactly the same as before, so that we'll get 5 every 4 minutes instead of 4 every 4 minutes.
Quetzalcoatl.Sakura said:
Sylph.Chrisstreb said:
Winners this update: SCH BST THF /DNC Losers: DNC PLD DRK
That's the nice thing about having Blue Mage leveled. You can always look forward to a slew of new spells during these level cap increases.
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
That's the nice thing about having Blue Mage leveled. You can always look forward to a slew of new spells during these level cap increases.
Quetzalcoatl.Sakura said:
Sylph.Chrisstreb said:
Winners this update: SCH BST THF /DNC
Losers: DNC PLD DRK
Losers: DNC PLD DRK
Biggest Loser in all of this : PUP
Seriously, not a damn thing lol
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And people care for pup? :p
That's actually not true; the puppet will be getting more spells.
Sylph.Chrisstreb said:
Winners this update: SCH BST THF /DNC
Losers: DNC PLD DRK
SE gave DNC the big screw-job by lowering the level on Curing Waltz III, and SCH (heck even /SCH) really won big-time. Wonder if the Sublimation changes will affect /SCH as well, or if its SCH-exclusive. Considering they got Stoneskin/Blink/Aquaveil/Blaze/Ice/Shock Spikes, the Change to Sublimation is another layer of cake on top of an already massive cake. Grats to THFs that have to get off their butts and actually contribute to make their TH work
Losers: DNC PLD DRK
SE gave DNC the big screw-job by lowering the level on Curing Waltz III, and SCH (heck even /SCH) really won big-time. Wonder if the Sublimation changes will affect /SCH as well, or if its SCH-exclusive. Considering they got Stoneskin/Blink/Aquaveil/Blaze/Ice/Shock Spikes, the Change to Sublimation is another layer of cake on top of an already massive cake. Grats to THFs that have to get off their butts and actually contribute to make their TH work
/laugh
that is actually good for DNC :P
hehehe
Siren.Kyte said:
That's actually not true; the puppet will be getting more spells.
Hell yea !!!! PUP :D /hurray
basically all we need now for guaranteed drops in abyssea is this I'm thinking:
Th7 thf
Rng for th shot lol
and blm and blu and nin for gryellow proc
let the good times roll
Th7 thf
Rng for th shot lol
and blm and blu and nin for gryellow proc
let the good times roll
Bahamut.Kaioshin said:
basically all we need now for guaranteed drops in abyssea is this I'm thinking:
Th7 thf
Rng for th shot lol
and blm and blu and nin for gryellow proc
let the good times roll
Th7 thf
Rng for th shot lol
and blm and blu and nin for gryellow proc
let the good times roll
HELL YA !!!!!! ^ - ^ /
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said:
Siren.Kyte said:
That's actually not true; the puppet will be getting more spells.
Hell yea !!!! PUP :D /hurray
Ragnarok.Cerelyn said:
And people care for pup? :p
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Bismarck.Kuroganashi said:
Bahamut.Kaioshin said:
basically all we need now for guaranteed drops in abyssea is this I'm thinking:
Th7 thf
Rng for th shot lol
and blm and blu and nin for gryellow proc
let the good times roll
Th7 thf
Rng for th shot lol
and blm and blu and nin for gryellow proc
let the good times roll
HELL YA !!!!!! ^ - ^ /
Hey. SE. If you're reading this. Split DNC's Waltz timers.
With love,
~Nini
With love,
~Nini
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Leviathan.Niniann said:
Hey. SE. If you're reading this. Split DNC's Waltz timers.
With love,
~Nini
With love,
~Nini
Phoenix.Degs said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Hey. SE. If you're reading this. Split DNC's Waltz timers.
With love,
~Nini
With love,
~Nini
Yeah that'd be neat. Even putting V in a separate category would be fine too. Spamming 3/5 or 4/5 would make us not a shitty job again. :/
Even how it is, its still not a shitty job, they just made /dnc all that much better... soloing will likely be so ungodly easy now, which is nice for casual gamers... but i dont think that DNC will be totally scratched form pt setups at all.. they can still do all the same things that they were able to do before...
im sure people said the same thing about nin too when people were first able to get ute:ni when /nin...."why be nin main when everyone will have ute:ni" but people still play nin and its still applicable to the game
im sure people said the same thing about nin too when people were first able to get ute:ni when /nin...."why be nin main when everyone will have ute:ni" but people still play nin and its still applicable to the game
Phoenix.Degs said:
Even how it is, its still not a shitty job, they just made /dnc all that much better... soloing will likely be so ungodly easy now, which is nice for casual gamers... but i dont think that DNC will be totally scratched form pt setups at all.. they can still do all the same things that they were able to do before...
im sure people said the same thing about nin too when people were first able to get ute:ni when /nin...."why be nin main when everyone will have ute:ni" but people still play nin and its still applicable to the game
im sure people said the same thing about nin too when people were first able to get ute:ni when /nin...."why be nin main when everyone will have ute:ni" but people still play nin and its still applicable to the game
DNC will still be a fine solo job (worse than Ninja) but it's lost everything that gave it it's appeal for parties. I'll quote myself sec, going to edit this.
Edit:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
For people who don't understand why /DNC is as good as DNC, and why we're mad is simply this.
Waltz 3 is the only Waltz a Dancer should ever use, even with the addition of 5 (4 is garbage). Unless they split timers (doesn't seem like they will at this point), then this whole rant means nothing. COR/DNC, NIN/DNC etc has access to everything that makes DNC useful, and more. They also have Anwig Salade for recast timer, etc.
Haste Samba. With the *new* 'Delay Reduction Cap' most jobs are only benefiting from a few %'s of Haste Samba anyway (~5% or less, which oh noes /DNC gets!). Because of this, our Haste Samba merits are useless in group situations nowadays to be quite frank.
I'm not sure how well Violent Flourish will stick on /DNC (since lax Casaque), but I'm sure with the proper gear it'll be a decent stickrate, if not the same as a DNC main. It's also--for those who don't know--a stun on a 15sec timer.
*** yeah loljobs.
Waltz 3 is the only Waltz a Dancer should ever use, even with the addition of 5 (4 is garbage). Unless they split timers (doesn't seem like they will at this point), then this whole rant means nothing. COR/DNC, NIN/DNC etc has access to everything that makes DNC useful, and more. They also have Anwig Salade for recast timer, etc.
Haste Samba. With the *new* 'Delay Reduction Cap' most jobs are only benefiting from a few %'s of Haste Samba anyway (~5% or less, which oh noes /DNC gets!). Because of this, our Haste Samba merits are useless in group situations nowadays to be quite frank.
I'm not sure how well Violent Flourish will stick on /DNC (since lax Casaque), but I'm sure with the proper gear it'll be a decent stickrate, if not the same as a DNC main. It's also--for those who don't know--a stun on a 15sec timer.
*** yeah loljobs.
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