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By Sylph.Agentblade 2011-10-31 18:02:23
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Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Sylph.Agentblade said: »
Phoenix.Radatz said: »
If your Wildfire build doesn't look somewhat like this you're doin it wrong.



4 City of Traitors
3 Ancient Tomb
13 Mountain

4 Voltaic Key
4 Grim Monolith
4 Thran Dynamo
4 Wildfire
3 Rolling Thunder
2 Worn Powerstone
3 Mishra's Helix
4 Fire Diamond

4 Covetous Dragon
3 Masticore
3 Karn, Silver Golem
2 Phyrexian Colossus
^This... What the hell is this?
Magic the Gathering
Thanks, was a bit lost on that
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By Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind 2011-11-04 23:21:42
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Truedat when im on Cor its either rolling, wildfiring, or quickdrawing. Other then that i run through bronze bullets to cap skill for marksmanship, using numbing, slug slot, and triple shot. Ill leave the heavy hitting to the RNGs
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By Bahamut.Yukisoba 2011-11-14 10:37:08
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Noob(ish) question, but I haven't seen a direct answer for this, or I didn't look hard enough.

Does Crimson/Blood Mask augment stack with 5/5 merits and Mirke??
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By Untamedheart 2011-11-14 18:41:48
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Bahamut.Yukisoba said: »
Noob(ish) question, but I haven't seen a direct answer for this, or I didn't look hard enough.

Does Crimson/Blood Mask augment stack with 5/5 merits and Mirke??

Yes it does.
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By Bahamut.Yukisoba 2011-11-15 07:59:58
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***.

I must acquire said mask along with said augments.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-11-15 08:12:41
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Q.!
Have there been any proper testing on how much less hate WF gives than a normal ws?
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By Asura.Solara 2011-11-15 11:35:29
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Q.!
Have there been any proper testing on how much less hate WF gives than a normal ws?

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/105852-Wildfire-emnity-testing

Still in progress, but the initial results look like 75% of normal enmity at 100 tp. The percentage decrease for 200 and 300 tp have yet to be determined.

Previous testing also showed it as being percentage based rather than a flat enmity amount + lower overall enmity like Anni/Yoichi, so all told it's not a huge asset if you're QD > WFing consistently during a fight.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-11-15 12:53:45
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Would it be better to use both Atma of the Smoldering Sky and Atma of the Lone Wolf rather than an AGI atma for one of them?
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-15 12:55:06
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Why would you use Agi atma? Yes they are better with Ultimate. And change Ultimate with Griffon's claw for brew.
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By Siren.Gunshy 2011-11-15 12:57:27
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Asura.Dameshi said: »
Would it be better to use both Atma of the Smoldering Sky and Atma of the Lone Wolf rather than an AGI atma for one of them?

Elemental Affinity atmas add %damage aside from anything else so yes
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-11-15 13:24:05
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Asura.Solara said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Q.!
Have there been any proper testing on how much less hate WF gives than a normal ws?

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/105852-Wildfire-emnity-testing

Still in progress, but the initial results look like 75% of normal enmity at 100 tp. The percentage decrease for 200 and 300 tp have yet to be determined.

Previous testing also showed it as being percentage based rather than a flat enmity amount + lower overall enmity like Anni/Yoichi, so all told it's not a huge asset if you're QD > WFing consistently during a fight.

Not too bad tho, should be enough to keep hate off you awhile longer!
Thanks for the link, looked quickly at BG earlier but could'nt find it
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By Caitsith.Himsa 2011-11-17 04:28:12
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any testing done on shadow belt compared to aquiline/sveltesse? I'm too lazy
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By Carbuncle.Kerokun 2011-11-19 20:29:39
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How much does Marksmanship skill impact Wildfire's accuracy? Fighting Qilin with 300+16 Marksmanship seems to be quite brutal. Turbo resist.


Dis is what I'm using.
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By Asura.Solara 2011-11-20 10:30:38
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No one's done any real testing with it yet to find out, though it does appear it affects both Wildfire and post tp update QD.

It's something I was planning on testing using QD on Drk (e skill) and Rng (a skill) to see the difference in resist rates, with agi gear to make up the difference in the two jobs, but I never got around to it before I stopped playing regularly.

I still plan to do it once they add invincibility on the test server, but hopefully someone less lazy than me will take the initiative and gather large enough samples before that.
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By Asura.Solara 2011-11-20 12:37:52
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Caitsith.Himsa said: »
any testing done on shadow belt compared to aquiline/sveltesse? I'm too lazy

Using my own sets/stats as a base, Sveltesse > Aquiline > Shadow. The lower your agi vs the mob (basically anything worth worrying about) the bigger the lead Sveltesse gets over the other two options.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-11-20 15:03:10
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Does anyone have any expected numbers for wildfire on Apademak under brew? Is he a two shot type of mob or?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-11-20 15:04:45
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2-2.5 Wildfires would kill Apademak for me back when I was brewing that @90.

Fire Shot -> Wildfire -> Wildfire -> SC -> loot.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-11-20 15:15:44
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
2-2.5 Wildfires would kill Apademak for me back when I was brewing that @90.

Fire Shot -> Wildfire -> Wildfire -> SC -> loot.
Mmmk, we are killing with 2 WF but occasionally our cor gets enstunned and interrupts the SC which wastes brew time and makes it require a 3rd WF. I guess he's got some large MDB or base resistance because our numbers are far below what I was expecting/hoping for. /sadness
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By Sylph.Binckry 2011-12-05 22:39:48
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Don't know if this is a necro post or whatever, but does anyone know the COR VW wildfire 2hit set? ^.^; Trying to see how to get it.. confusedasfuck lol. (discipline + miser's and /sam is all i can remember... i think?)
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By Fenrir.Curty 2011-12-29 12:21:11
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decent tacticians + coercion (+roller's ring) = 7~9 regain which makes the 2 hit more easily attainable.

Also posting because interested in people's new WF sets, currently throwing mine together.
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By Fenrir.Curty 2011-12-29 12:33:50
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Was what I was thinking.. subbing in athos gloves on firesday and artemis medal when appropriate.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-12-29 12:41:58
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Alruna's gloves and Ambusher hose for an ideal set. Also I think that the new stoicheion medal is the most reliable neck piece.
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By Sylph.Agentblade 2011-12-30 12:03:08
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Alruna's gloves and Ambusher hose for an ideal set. Also I think that the new stoicheion medal is the most reliable neck piece.
^ .... But was thinking of swapping up ambusher's hose for Bloods with MaB+6 on them based on Agi Vs. Mobs. Same can be said about Af3+2 feet (Agi 13) vs. Af2+2 feet (MaB+6). I wouldnt change feet and pants to lose 23 AGI for 12 MaB. But pending on resist rates I would change up pants first. Still requires some testing.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-12-30 12:09:24
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I forgot about augmented pants+6mab, those are hot.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-12-31 03:11:57
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Sylph.Agentblade said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Alruna's gloves and Ambusher hose for an ideal set. Also I think that the new stoicheion medal is the most reliable neck piece.
^ .... But was thinking of swapping up ambusher's hose for Bloods with MaB+6 on them based on Agi Vs. Mobs. Same can be said about Af3+2 feet (Agi 13) vs. Af2+2 feet (MaB+6). I wouldnt change feet and pants to lose 23 AGI for 12 MaB. But pending on resist rates I would change up pants first. Still requires some testing.


According to the formula of 2 AGI>1MAB, AF2+2 feet won't beat AF3+2 feet, in fact I tested it in Abby Ule with Leaden Salute and AF2+2 feet still can't win. AF2+2 feet is really for QD/brew only(when you don't need the magic dmg boost from QD)
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-12-31 04:27:11
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Relic+2 feet are useless. There's never a reason for not using empy boots.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-12-31 06:13:22
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Relic+2 feet are useless. There's never a reason for not using empy boots.


It's not completely "useless", there are a couple of situations when using relic+2 boots is better than empy feet(assuming you have no MAB+6 augment on W legs)

If you're using a physical WS, and reaches 100 TP after 1 QD and WS right away, and not doing 2nd shot after, then you don't need the magic dmg boost on empy feet. Relic+2 feet + AF3+2 legs+ AF3+2 hands still has 2 AF3+2, but 6 extra MAB compare with QD mitten+AF3+2 legs and feet(or 2 extra MAB and 8 STP compare with AF3+2 hands/MAB+4 pants/AF3+2 feet)

Or if you're doing 2 QD at once, can macro it in for second shot for extra MAB etc.

Another situation is brewing with WF, since your AGI is capped there really isn't many other choices in the feet slot.

Of course it's another minor upgrade/side grade took away 1 extra inv etc, but the situation does exist.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-12-31 06:28:40
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Fire shot->Wildfire. Empy boots win. For brew even more since it's a % increase whereas the mab on relic doesn't do anything.
If you're not using Fireshot for WF then you're better off using Ice/Thunder and pump the BLMs damage.
The relic boots have very little to no use, really.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-12-31 17:53:41
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Fire shot->Wildfire. Empy boots win. For brew even more since it's a % increase whereas the mab on relic doesn't do anything.
If you're not using Fireshot for WF then you're better off using Ice/Thunder and pump the BLMs damage.
The relic boots have very little to no use, really.

No I mean WF for brewing XD Fire shot in empy feet, then WF in full MAB set.

I said if you're using Physical WS in previous post >< So Fire shot won't boost dmg.

It may have *very little* use and may not worth extra inv, but it's not completely useless.
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By Asura.Fondue 2011-12-31 18:02:29
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what plugin do people use to track rolls now? been ages since I played cor
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