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 Asura.Karbuncle
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2011-11-19 23:26:59
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Someone else just confirmed it on BG... So either its a bug or Fk yeah
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By Cerberus.Elgato 2011-11-20 00:03:23
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Still, final stats on Mandau are rather underwhelming. The whole SE statement of "Don't worry, we'll make sure relics stay proportional to the effort required to make them" apparently meant "sure, we'll make it on par with one of the the weakest emp weapons that takes a couple days to get."
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2011-11-20 00:18:22
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Well, It looks like the Aftermath Effect on Relics are becoming AoE on the 99's...

Critical hit Rate +5% for your party seems great, especially with Voidwatch and Dusty wings, being able to keep up ~300% Aftermath (duration) so often...

I'd still say Mandau will be the better bet in the end, But both are magnificent weapons
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2011-11-20 15:50:07
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Could you test the additional effect and the triple dmg proc on offhand please? Much thanks.
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By Asura.Loneshadow 2011-11-20 16:14:27
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Was playing around with friends THF and this is their Mercy Stroke set un-stacked w/ Sneak Attack. Any advice?



Mandau = Main-Hand
Kila +3 = STR Path
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By Cerberus.Elgato 2011-11-20 20:20:40
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Thought they increased the after effect to 12-13% on Mandau?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-20 20:31:34
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Just the triple damage effect.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2011-11-20 20:53:38
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Cerberus.Elgato said: »
Thought they increased the after effect to 12-13% on Mandau?

Theres a chance by 99 The effects will be buffed.

Though, 300% TP Dusty wings, Keep up the 9mp(8mp?)/tic Refresh Aura for everyone in range. CLAUSTRUMS FOR ALL.

Or Bravura's aftermath...

AoE Aftermaths (If these were translated right, it read "Aftercircle" i think) have some potential.
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By Kerayu2 2011-11-20 23:47:50
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Could you test the additional effect and the triple dmg proc on offhand please? Much thanks.

After fighting 10 DC mobs in succession I can unfortunately say that only the +att/acc of the weapon works in offhand. No Additional poison effect nor OTD hidden effects proc'd in offhand use. So it is a step in the right direction, but only a step.

Edit: And OTD still can't proc on 2nd/3rd hits when in main hand. I was hoping they would allow that since ODD aftermath can =/
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By Bismarck.Shishi 2011-11-22 15:27:56
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wow Ihina u've been busy :o
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2011-11-23 05:16:47
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Yeah I have, but not that you can tell from looking at my THF. BRD mule needs a g-horn and I'm rebuilding my other mule from scratch. Already done with most missions and abyssea stuff, just some magian staves, sky access and some sea capes to go.
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By Bismarck.Chaosprime 2011-12-14 11:16:24
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so if main handing the Mandau, would a twash be better to offhand or a STR Kila+4 (looking like the stats are gonna be DMG: 43-45 STR+12 ATK+22? Im thinking of a 85/90 Twash not a 95 version
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By Fenrir.Kaliyah 2011-12-14 22:09:57
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Just confirmed on my Thf, looks like the Offhand change wasn't a fluke. Live on all servers after update Mandau +att is working in offhand.

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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-12-14 22:11:43
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Do you get access to the weapon skill with it offhand and the 10% triple damage procs ;o?
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2011-12-14 22:15:29
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No WS, and very much doubt the triple proc
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By Siren.Delirium 2011-12-14 22:27:35
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Bismarck.Chaosprime said: »
so if main handing the Mandau, would a twash be better to offhand or a STR Kila+4 (looking like the stats are gonna be DMG: 43-45 STR+12 ATK+22? Im thinking of a 85/90 Twash not a 95 version

The STR kila would enhance Mercy Stroke, but it all depends on what WS you're going to be using obviously.
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By Fenrir.Kaliyah 2011-12-14 23:10:46
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If it is identical to the Test server, the only thing that works in offhand is +att. Trying to do the LB fight atm so I can't really test anything.
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By Fenrir.Kaliyah 2011-12-17 08:32:46
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Quote:
Dec. 16, 2011 03:53 [PST] From: FINAL FANTASY XI
Current Known Issues with the Version Update (Dec. 16)

We have identified the following issue after the version update that took place on Dec. 14, 2011.

- An issue wherein equipping a relic or mythic weapon, whose level requirement is 90 or above, as a sub-weapon will enable status effects that are not intended.

We are currently in the process of testing fixes to address this issue.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding.

Sorry to get everyone's hopes up, but looks like this may be a part of a bug that they are going to fix -.- which makes no sense at all.
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By Cerberus.Nahtaivel 2012-01-07 11:14:40
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Siren.Delirium said: »
Bismarck.Chaosprime said: »
so if main handing the Mandau, would a twash be better to offhand or a STR Kila+4 (looking like the stats are gonna be DMG: 43-45 STR+12 ATK+22? Im thinking of a 85/90 Twash not a 95 version

The STR kila would enhance Mercy Stroke, but it all depends on what WS you're going to be using obviously.

With STR kila ending up with DMG 47, STR 11 and ATK +22, how does it stack up against Twashtar 90 offhand? Twashtar DPS = 16.36 @90 and Thokcha has 14.84. What are the situations where you would main Mandau/Twashtar over the other? Trying to decide if completing a Mandau is worth it if I already have a Twashtar.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-07 11:27:43
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Cerberus.Nahtaivel said: »
Mandau is worth it if I already have a Twashtar.

Mandau is worlds better than Twashtar.
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By Leviathan.Laphine 2012-01-07 11:32:14
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Well, one thing i can add is that capping dex crit rate is easier with Twash, especially if you have str merits. And Twash is certainly easier to come by than Coruscanti lol.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-07 11:38:24
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Leviathan.Laphine said: »
Well, one thing i can add is that capping dex crit rate is easier with Twash, especially if you have str merits. And Twash is certainly easier to come by than Coruscanti lol.

Not if you have my dumb VW luck.
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By Cerberus.Nahtaivel 2012-01-07 13:57:48
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Cerberus.Nahtaivel said: »
Mandau is worth it if I already have a Twashtar.

Mandau is worlds better than Twashtar.

Is Twashtar the better offhand? Or is the STR Thokcha better to beef up Mercy Stroke?

On a side note, do we know a % for aftermath or if it increases with trials?
EDIT: nvm I saw the comment on the Mandau 95 page, still 5% :(
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-01-07 13:58:36
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TH dagger or ---->
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By Cerberus.Nahtaivel 2012-01-07 14:01:29
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Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis said: »
TH dagger or ---->

Change weapon after tagging with TH or get off thief
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-01-07 14:09:58
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Cerberus.Nahtaivel said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis said: »
TH dagger or ---->

Change weapon after tagging with TH or get off thief
Nah... Main hand TH dagger, wearing TH+2 hands, and TH feet... Stand at max range then /ra >>> AFK

Only thing THF is good for.

Edit: But if the thf really wanted to be useful...
Main hand TH dagger, wearing TH+2 hands, and TH feet... Stand at max range then /ra >>> /jobchange
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2012-01-07 20:23:43
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See, i know you're trolling cause you own both mandau and Thwastar.

Still makes me sad.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-01-07 20:32:56
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Asura.Karbuncle said: »
See, i know you're trolling cause you own both mandau and Thwastar.

Still makes me sad.
Yeah. I really love my thf, and wish I could play it a bit more often. Only time I really get to play it if for Dynamis Linkshell events. We do dyna often enough, but even then, it's still not that often my job is called thf.
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