Mandau & Offhand Dagger

Offhand dagger would seriously depend what damage type you wish to aim for - DoT or WS. Mandau/Sax is about the best DoT combo you can get but lacks boosting stats for ur WS. Total delay 176+150=326. Base thf dual wield + raiders + suppo would drop it to 260.8dly. Looking at your gear im assuming you will be hitting 26% haste, which then drops your overall delay to 194.3~. Assuming you have RDM haste at least your base delay works out at 155.1~. Not included /nin into this, delay ends up at 145.5~. Lack of boosting stats on Sax is helped by the acc tho, as you could lose the acc back in place of an att back. Only thing i will say is that using homam would over shoot the haste cap. For a WS build DD, get a trials dagger. Hellish but...your best evis offhand dagger is Twash+1...+10dex. Dex kila+1 comes second. With razed ruin, evis is the best dagger WS, especially stacked with SA. Outside of abyssea, Mercy Stroke can be nice if you can build enough STR for it - STR Kila+1 goes. In general though, stick to evis or mand. stab. Exception to this is if your Elv, in which case Mercy can be much easier to gear for. Only downside is that it shares a different mod to SA, which is why i'd say stick to mand. or evis most of the time. Edit: Overall DoT build usually works out the best unless your vs higher def mobs, as your WS dmg wont be much weaker and your overall DoT dmg will outweigh. Harder stuff, higher base dmg on kila comes out trumps. Further edit: Oddly enough if you use can make good use of Rudra's storm, mainhanding Twashtar+1 and actually OFFHANDING Mandau may be a better option. Both have 176 delay, and mandau (85) only wins on dmg by 1 point. In these situations, Mandau becomes scarily close to obsolete in a capped build, but not quite :D.

How does forced crit mercy stroke do w/ razed ruin?

Nothing special. Friend of mine had a try out on bugards with a decent enough build. Maxxed out at 2.7~ with SATA, averaging 1.9~2.2 with just SA or TA. His evis never hit lower thn 2.1, and averaged 3.2 with a single stack, never bothered to double stack at that point.

>.> Rapidus Sax is hands down the best dagger for off hand in this situation. I wouldn't even bother making the peeler because you have the current best off hand weapon. I find it difficult to believe other non-magian daggers won't be released within further updates that remain better then magian.

Beats the crap outta offhand sax. Average 30% faster tp = 30% more WSs = 30% more evis rapage. With full marches/haste the tp gain bonus can get upped as high as 50%.

How exactly did you arrive at the conclusion that increasing haste buffs increases the margin by which the weapon with haste apparently loses? PS 150 vs 211 delay

150dly 1 hit vs 211 dly 2hit (averaging out). Say 25% dual wield, 112.5 vs 158. Add 26% haste (im assuming this as the OP is a relic holder) 83.25dly vs 116.92. Add spell haste 66.375 dly vs 93.22 dly. Gap between delays has dropped from 61 to 27. Add marches and the gap decreases even more.

...do you actually know what a percentage is, or are you just throwing ***out there and hoping it's relevant? Also, TP gain per minute increases as delay per hand (ignoring haste) decreases. I thought we'd established this previously.

Im aware.

Im aware. And i know this, however a dagger that averages 2 strikes per round can be assumed to be equivilent to 1/2 its base delay as regards to tp gain. 150 vs 105.5 in this case.

PS: OA3 has a 1.7 hits/round average before DA and TA, not 2.0.

Then you realize that every single one of those delay comparisons you posted has the same proportion, right? Nothing increasing about it.

No it can't, nimrod.

I've seen parses anywhere as low as 1.5 and high as 2.4. Was just giving an average.

I was giving simple figures. If you want to graph those then go ahead, im not bothering.

Oh? Dagger with 211 dly averaging 2 attacks per round will give twice the tp it would give averaging 1 attack per round. If you count each strike seperately its generating more tp per round than if its delay was halfed, as it has a higher delay = more tp per hit.

I'll assume they're fine, still doesn't answer my question about how the non-haste dagger gains an advantage with increasing values of non-gear haste.

Ah sorry, thought i did. Basically im just assuming that he'll have capped haste with or without sax, making the 1% haste a moot point.

Beats the crap outta offhand sax. Average 30% faster tp = 30% more WSs = 30% more evis rapage. With full marches/haste the tp gain bonus can get upped as high as 50%.

The rest is *** after you reminded me bout gain ratio, and with the 1.7 rather thn 2 hits a round.