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 Asura.Karbuncle
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-09-15 14:43:05
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Leviathan.Solanis said:
Asura.Karbuncle said:
Still the best over-all Idle piece for most of those jobs listed, if not all. Unless you're forcing a Latent, for any reason, then yeah, dalm would win. But Dalm-Forcing latent is really only useful for what, WHM and SMN? for the Cure-Pot+10% Ring and Perp-1 Ring? Most people just Equip the -HP ***and then +HP stuff to put them in natural Yellow HP, and then do it again when they Auto-regen (WHM or /WHM specificaly).

Seriously? For jobs that can wear marduk, marduk is still BY FAR the best idle piece. I'm assuming morri is better for rdm and blm (maybe dalm). SCH won't be wearing this unless sublimation isn't up and charging, which really isn't that often.

You know "Idle" means "Standing around taking no actions" right >.>?

As in "Doing absolutely nothing but looking pretty"

So unless Marduk has Regen on it, Then no, its not.

Edit: And what is up with wrong people spewing the word "SERIOUSLY" at me today as if it makes them more correct =(? i feel abused.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-09-15 14:43:26
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Leviathan.Solanis said:

Seriously? For jobs that can wear marduk, marduk is still BY FAR the best idle piece. I'm assuming morri is better for rdm and blm (maybe dalm). SCH won't be wearing this unless sublimation isn't up and charging, which really isn't that often.
How is an hp/mp/REGENless body better than Pluviale?
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By Valefor.Blissrun 2010-09-15 14:55:35
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I'd still rather idle in my dalmy. Nobody has even mentioned the magic def bonus +5 on it. I'd much rather be standing around in the dalmy and get hit with a nuke then this nashira knockoff.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-09-15 14:57:49
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Valefor.Blissrun said:
I'd still rather idle in my dalmy. Nobody has even mentioned the magic def bonus +5 on it. I'd much rather be standing around in the dalmy and get hit with a nuke then this nashira knockoff.

Why are you in range of Nukes =(?

Seems irresponsible as a mage, unless your a BRD, then its sometimes bound to happen.

Plus the auto-regen from this body will probably give you more HP over-all in return than a 5% decreases in magic damage taken =|.

But its okay, I seen this last update, its denial, that armor you worked so hard for is becoming obsolete.

I'm sad my Byakkos is going to be worthless when i get the+2 Legs armos, and a lot of other things =(

My Homam is all completely worthless now for the most part as well -.-
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By Leviathan.Solanis 2010-09-15 15:03:49
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Phoenix.Fredjan said:
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Seriously? For jobs that can wear marduk, marduk is still BY FAR the best idle piece. I'm assuming morri is better for rdm and blm (maybe dalm). SCH won't be wearing this unless sublimation isn't up and charging, which really isn't that often.
How is an hp/mp/REGENless body better than Pluviale?

Because it has fast cast on it as well as refresh.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-09-15 15:05:31
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Leviathan.Solanis said:
Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Leviathan.Solanis said:
Seriously? For jobs that can wear marduk, marduk is still BY FAR the best idle piece. I'm assuming morri is better for rdm and blm (maybe dalm). SCH won't be wearing this unless sublimation isn't up and charging, which really isn't that often.
How is an hp/mp/REGENless body better than Pluviale?

Because it has fast cast on it as well as refresh.

IDLE.

FOR ***'S SAKE PEOPLE.
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By Leviathan.Solanis 2010-09-15 15:08:09
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Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
Leviathan.Solanis said:
Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Leviathan.Solanis said:
Seriously? For jobs that can wear marduk, marduk is still BY FAR the best idle piece. I'm assuming morri is better for rdm and blm (maybe dalm). SCH won't be wearing this unless sublimation isn't up and charging, which really isn't that often.
How is an hp/mp/REGENless body better than Pluviale?
Because it has fast cast on it as well as refresh.
IDLE. FOR ***'S SAKE PEOPLE.

Yes, idle. Are you HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE? Items vital to your precast should be included in your idle set whenever possible, since spellcast isn't infallible.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-09-15 15:09:43
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I meant Morrigan's Robe > Pluviale, not Marduk Body.
And even people without SC can still macro in stuff for precast <.<
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input /equip body "Duelist's Tabard";
input /ma "Stone IV" <t>
wait 1
input /equip body "Teal Saio";
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-15 15:11:44
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Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
Leviathan.Solanis said:
Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Leviathan.Solanis said:
Seriously? For jobs that can wear marduk, marduk is still BY FAR the best idle piece. I'm assuming morri is better for rdm and blm (maybe dalm). SCH won't be wearing this unless sublimation isn't up and charging, which really isn't that often.
How is an hp/mp/REGENless body better than Pluviale?

Because it has fast cast on it as well as refresh.

IDLE.

FOR ***'S SAKE PEOPLE.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-09-15 15:22:07
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I want it...I don't have dalmy and having a refresh body for whatever reason is awesome. Having +8~11 solo Refresh is freakin awesome.

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By Asura.Serano 2010-09-15 15:27:35
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found how to upload hurr.....
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By Phoenix.Lithical 2010-09-15 16:01:04
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{Atma of Ambition} {Where?}
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By Phoenix.Chomeymatt 2010-09-15 16:09:19
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no where to be found.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-09-15 16:17:53
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Also if anyone cares, The good news is, it seems like the AF3 Accessories are 100% Drop this time around!
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-09-15 16:22:43
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*** this NM!!

we were killing lord varney when some *** face dragged this gigant over an died by us. needless to say it killed us ><
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-09-15 16:23:54
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Carbuncle.Zanno said:
*** this NM!! we were killing lord varney when some *** face dragged this gigant over an died by us. needless to say it killed us ><
Lol the world it seems is against you killing Lord Varney..I dont know what you did but someone upstairs doesn't want you to kill him.
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-09-15 16:26:42
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yea finally got ppl together and all. after we wiped 1 guy had to leave :(
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-09-15 16:31:25
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Carbuncle.Zanno said:
yea finally got ppl together and all. after we wiped 1 guy had to leave :(
Come to Bahamut and I will kill it with you!!

Wait Nvm you sound like bad luck..I dont want you around me!
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By Lakshmi.Galvaya 2010-09-15 16:35:58
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This thread makes my head hurt...all the angst.
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By Phoenix.Avelle 2010-09-15 16:39:10
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Asura.Karbuncle said:
Asura.Knightofdragon said:
Why are people wrighting off that belt so quickly,
Its the best Eminty Belt for PLD, Next Best is Trance Belt @ 4eminty 14Hp, Yes trance belt is still Nice, But doesn't compair to This because of its great use in Cure Cheating, If you have an Aegis then This Belt also best MD(B) Piece,

Overall "USE" This Body Piece Beats Dalmy, But Doesn't really matter you want refresh piece u got it, Dalmy can only be compaired by Force Yellow, But then this would be a better piece for Convert build, Start off Pro/Shell or RR3 & not counting the Extra Job use

People are writing off the belt because another +1 Enmity over the next alternative is useless, as PLDs currently have no trouble capping enmity within minutes of a fight.

And the HP+40 is useless unless you full time the belt, which is downright a bad idea over Haste belts (on most fights!! MOST not ALL)

Its only redeeming quality is if "Magic Defense+4" Is something godly awesome, where it might be useful in a kited fight against an Avid magic using mob.

Edit: I'm going to play a game =(

Usually I agree with what you're saying but I really have to disagree here. 1 more enmity is 1 more enmity, there's nothing wrong with taking it and no reason you shouldn't. It appears to be a 100% drop so why not? Min/Maxing demands you take it and I was able to sell two to three different belts (trance, resolute (assuming it is indeed the same thing as magic defense bonus), and perhaps Jungle Sash for situations where I want as much HP as I can get). This should be the single best cure cheat belt you can get so the HP is not useless here. If you're not engaged, this is an acceptable idle piece assuming you don't have Turul's -damage belt. I dunno, you can say a 1 enmity upgrade is worthless but I know you know people split hairs over smaller upgrades.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-15 16:57:39
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Phoenix.Lithical said:
Doesn't look too hard unless people who have fought haven't felt like mentioning any movement bonuses on wiki. Probably going to invest a lot of stones in this /sigh
Easily kited with Atma of Ambition. He's a joke really, we went in completely unprepared and took him down in ~30 minutes with 3 people and I'm sure we could have done it much faster with better information, aggressive use of meds, a second atma, etc.
Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
btw, thats some nice TH you had, 4 drops oO
Accessories are 100%.
Valefor.Blissrun said:
I'd still rather idle in my dalmy. Nobody has even mentioned the magic def bonus +5 on it. I'd much rather be standing around in the dalmy and get hit with a nuke then this nashira knockoff.
You do realize the -50 HP completely negates that MDB, right?

Also drops a nifty title :3
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-09-15 16:59:41
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Don't even need Atma of Ambition to kite him. Really easy.

He's REALLY hard. Ridiculously stupidly difficult. Please don't compete with me ; ;.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-15 17:02:04
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Don't even need Atma of Ambition to kite him. Really easy.

He's REALLY hard. Ridiculously stupidly difficult. Please don't compete with me ; ;.
Hahaha. He was more or less keeping up with me with it active, though he paths badly and stops to swing periodically whether you're in range or not so I could gain distance/cast easily enough. I suspected he could be kited without it but haven't tried him without it so I didn't want to say for sure.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-09-15 17:05:27
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Don't even need Atma of Ambition to kite him. Really easy. He's REALLY hard. Ridiculously stupidly difficult. Please don't compete with me ; ;.
RAEN!

You busy tonight? lol
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By Phoenix.Lithical 2010-09-15 17:06:05
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Carbuncle.Zanno said:
*** this NM!!

we were killing lord varney when some *** face dragged this gigant over an died by us. needless to say it killed us ><

No, you weren't :D
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By Phoenix.Chomeymatt 2010-09-15 17:06:45
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Zanno stop failing yo.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-09-15 17:10:14
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Bahamut.Zorander said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Don't even need Atma of Ambition to kite him. Really easy. He's REALLY hard. Ridiculously stupidly difficult. Please don't compete with me ; ;.
RAEN!

You busy tonight? lol

Already 1/5! (first went to Aiyana)

No moar abyssea time ; ;
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-09-15 17:12:12
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If only I could give you some of my 60 stored stones..

AND STOP KILLING ***WITHOUT ME!
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-09-15 17:29:37
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You're like never on >:|
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-09-15 17:35:18
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Phoenix.Lithical said:
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*** this NM!!

we were killing lord varney when some *** face dragged this gigant over an died by us. needless to say it killed us ><

No, you weren't :D

Atleast I got SS of me doing something, rather than make assumtions.

And we did won once we got to try without that gigant beating on us. Now when I've fought him for real, I wanna see you solo him even more.
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