I sometimes wonder what game some of you play, people been nicer now thats *** bs most people are still out for themselves and what Nateen described happened on Quetz during the aby reign and it will sure as ***happen again after tonights update unless they have some depop crap built in when claim is lost.
It's what makes the game fun to a degree, you know if you *** up someone is going to take your mob, likewise if you *** up near me you can rest assured I will take your mob unless I personally know you.
I don't think it's within the "acceptably logical" part of the mentality to find it fun.
The game used to have a big population, the lack of PVP pushed players to find some PVE competition. Outside of the claim fights, it was the "yellow is fair game" fight.
I agree with the fact that, once upon a time, yellow is fair game was part of the usual attitude to have if you wanted to play. And I don't mean just progress, but play. Or else, you'd be here, thumbs up your ***, doing nothing at all for hours, and the whole server would be in the same situation, or at least the whole area.
However, nowadays, while there are still some people to be greedy and such, I think they're a tiny minority. People seem to have gotten this new mentality that matches the state of the game. Once upon a time, it was difficult to pop NMs, to get their drops, to make money, to progress at all. Nowadays, you can progress up to the maximum bar forced cooldowns like mythics within a few days. So people have understood that there is no need to be greedy anymore, or anything of the like. Furthermore, people have gotten older. I'm still an idiot but I was an even bigger one back in HNMs.
I'm sure most people playing FFXI are even older than I, so they may be even wiser in that regard.
If you still have a 2004-2009 mentality when it comes to this game, then the problem isn't the game or any of its mechanics, but your brain.